coming soon- toyota Rear gear write up

[scottb]

i regeared the front and rear on the toyota and took pics to aid with a write up. will start soon- my time is very limited today. basically want to go through the whole thing to show how to pull off steering knuckles the easy way and do the whole dealio. thanks to rockape for the welded spiders.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i regeared the front and rear on the toyota and took pics to aid with a write up. will start soon- my time is very limited today. basically want to go through the whole thing to show how to pull off steering knuckles the easy way and do the whole dealio. thanks to rockape for the welded spiders.

COOL ,WE NEED SOME FRESH TECH!!!

[scottb]

Okay so my basic procedure here is based upon the Camo procedure- but since all i could find was like 2 lines describing it i figured i'd go into more detail here.

the basic method starts like this- take the wheels off the truck (unless you have ungodly skill), DRAIN THE GEAR OIL- god will hate you if you dont.

unbolt the locking dial of the locking hub and remove the snap ring from the axle. this is important.

next i unbolted the tie rod on one side (which is not actually needed but made it slightly easier for me to deal with each side).

next i removed the top 4 nuts of the steering knuckle along with their washers and cone washers- (which came out way easier than when i did my hubs a while back)

pull the steering parts up off the steering knuckle- mine took some convincing with a hammer- one hit on side one the other till it finally came loose.

remove the lower 4 nuts and washers and cone washers

for the love of god make sure your brake lines are long enough u dont tear em.

now (you can do this before you unbolt the steering knuckle bearing holders)- remove the 4 bolts for the upper and lower felt metal retainers. then remove the metal retainers along with the felt, the rubber seal and the thin metal ring. i just slid these towards the center of my axle.

now with great care not to drop this heavy beast wiggle the steering knuckle up and down while pulling outwards from the vehicle- the bearings have to clear their respective slots they fit in. you should be able to completely pull it off of the axle- if your brake line is long enough- if not unbolt it from the caliper.

set the knuckle on the ground in order not to tear the brake lines.

now you are confronted with a greasy ass birfield and axle assembly. turn the birf so that the flat spots are aligned with the low spots in the bell of the axle tube- in other words the places where the steering knuckle bearings sit. then start to slide out. mine got to a point and stopped- just keep wiggling and it will pop out eventually- twist a little too...

if you havent already- unbolt the driveshaft and tie it out of the way.

once they drop down off of a lip on the inside they should be far enough out to remove the 3rd member. unbolt all the little tiny nuts on the 3rd and slide it out. it's heavy so dont drop it on your head.

my gear oil and my steering knuckle grease got envious of eachother and switched places while the axle seal wasnt looking- so my diff was beyond nasty. like 3 cans of carb clean nasty.

take the diff somewhere safe and pretty so that you can offend whatever virgin surface you are about to set it on- mom's couch should work great.

after degreasing- either with carb cleaner or preferably with starting fluid (walmart was out of every can when i went there). in a DAMN WELL ventilated area spray the living bejebus out of it. once clean and pretty take a punch or a marking pen and designate passenger side and drivers side carrier bearing caps. next mark the position on the carrier bearing screw thingies (technical term) of where one intersection with where the case meets the cap points to on the screw thingy. also mark a place on the screw and the cap another place that matches up in case the first gets smudged or erased. without this you may as well put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye. you will spend 3 years and 48 days trying to figure out where your screws should have been dialed in.

now dissasemble this poor bastard. i used gearinstalls.com as my main source of info on how to set up gears- he described it better than i ever could. after your teeth contact patterns look like his and you've got it mostly reassembled- it's time to crush the crush sleeve. This sucks. plain sucks. stop the flange from moving somehow- 2 vise grips on an 1/8th piece of steel served me well. and get a proper size socket- and one hell of a breaker bar with a serious cheater pipe. you may think the world has failed but keep trying- eventually this bastard will move- somewhere above 500 foot lbs. once it starts moving as soon as it gets easier to tighten you are crushing the sleeve- be very damn careful here- too tight and you are screwed and have to get a new crush sleeve. tighten up the CBPL as per gearinstalls.com and locktite the shit out of everything. EVERYTHING!

now as per the chiltons manual- installation is the opposite of removal.
hope this helps other poor bastards like me out there on their first front end re gear.

saved me 1100 bucks doing it myself.







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this diagram is a lot better at explaining what needs to happen that i can explain it. look only at the left side of the steering knuckle as i completely left the right intact as per the camo method. Basically this is just a longer written version

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this is my rear diff contact pattern.

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steering linkage that needs to be removed 4 bolts on top with 4 cone washers. same with piece on bottom.

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steering knuckle before.

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this hub was pissing gear oil and grease everywhere cause the gasket was screwed up- i was cheap and just used silicone... buy a gasket- though it hasnt given me issues- u might not be so lucky. this side also needed to have the wheel bearing tight

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before picture. notice the professional zip tie holding the brake lines out of the way of the tires.

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mark the flanges on the driveshaft- just in case it matters- who knows!!!

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here is the ugly leaking steering knuckle seal. it got so much worse when i started pulling the knuckle off- put down cardboard and thick towels to absorb all of the gear oil!!! this also shows the 4 lower nuts needing to be removed- they have cone

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disconnect the driveshaft- i zip tied mine to the tranny.

[scottb]

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i stuffed a towel into the hole to keep any of the 136 pounds of crap attached to my knuckle from falling in.

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this is the steering linkage that bolts to the steering knuckle to direct your tires. notice the little pin in the center of it- that holds a bearing in place which locates the steering knuckle on the bell and makes it so you can turn the tires side

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before- make sure your brake lines are long enough that you wont tear them when removing the steering knuckle.

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the steering knuckle leaking everywhere- not even the bad one either- needed new felt scrapers. i left the caliper and eveything attached to the knuckle.

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remove the felt scrapers (or you wont be able to get the steering knuckle off of the bell). these needed replacing and along with inner axle seals i got them for (both sides) 68 bucks after tax in phoenix when i was visiting- it was 115 in reno.

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this is the outer part of the locking hub (the locking part) notice the snap ring off of the axle end so that you can pull the steering knuckle off

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this is the axle still in the bell. notice the steering knuckle complete with rotor and everything on it- my brake lines were just long enough i didnt have to tie it up so it didnt hang on em

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just in case you wanted to see the product of grease and gear oil in a steering knuckle

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this is how far i had to pull the axles out (lign the flat spots on the birf up with the vertical parts of the steering bell) in order to remove the diff

[scottb]

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this is what the steering knuckle looks like after 192,000 miles... make sure to clean most of the goop off.

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this is the birfield pulled out far enough to remove the 3rd member.

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take off the nuts on these and remove the cone washers- once that is done pull these out (either all the way or enough to clear the inside of the bearing they are holding in place) so that you can remove the steering knuckles

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this is the god aweful mess that my front diff looked like when i took it out. gear oil in the knuckles and grease in the diff.

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the carrier out by itself all nice and clean

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final diff ready to be installed. for the love of god make sure you mark your passenger side and drivers side carrier bearing caps. also when dissasembling the diff- make sure you mark (in TWO places) a reference mark for the side CBPL adjusters

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tooth pattern again

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the final tooth contact pattern

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this is the horrible death that your torque wrench will experience while crushing the crush sleeve. do you like the bullet holes in my plate...? it takes im guessing 500 ft lbs of torque to start the sleeve crushing. maybe more. i had a 4 foot tube on top of the torque wrench with all my weight but what it took to keep the diff from rotating on it... it actually bent a lot more than this- but i let up on it a little right before it took the pic.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

COOL, NOW I JUST NEED A TOYOTA!!!DO YOU STILL LIKE THE WELDED REAR DIFF??

[blackwidow]

hey mine looked exactly like that too....I couldn't believe how much crap was everywhere! It probably took me 3 hours longer than it should have because I took every little piece I could and cleaned it all....I HATE GREASE!!!

[Sierra Valley]

Well I just spent all my hard earned money and gave it to samco

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Plus I didnt have one of these or the time and place to do it.
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[RARECJ8]

hey keith, that bumper laced winch line says 'lots of action' but how long has it been down?

Did u take the heep to a car wash 1st before handing it over to sam for TLC? last t ime i saw it, it was baked in a good coat of sierra clay.

going on the pardoes run next w/e? Oh, and wind back in ur winch line...:biggrin: :biggrin:

mb

[Sierra Valley]

hey keith, that bumper laced winch line says 'lots of action' but how long has it been down?

Did u take the heep to a car wash 1st before handing it over to sam for TLC? last t ime i saw it, it was baked in a good coat of sierra clay.

going on the pardoes run next w/e? Oh, and wind back in ur winch line...:biggrin: :biggrin:

mb

Been down since the end of May, running now mid sept.

No its still got baked mud in the under carriage but was a lot cleaner than the last time you seen it.

Need to work on the winch, its not working go figure. WAY TOO MUCH ACTION LAST WINTER ON THAT OLD BABY.

[UniBomber]

damn, is this what i have to look forward to when i build up some toy axles for my f toy??? good thing i'm gonna use all new parts so i don't have to clean the old stuff off :biggrin:

nice write up. this will definately come in handy when the time comes for me to tear apart a toy axle. :biggrin:

[scottb]

holy crap dude- think your pinion walked just a bit?!?!? never seen a ring gear do that though- seen the pinion eat the carrier before but not ring gear death!

thanks guys- now everyone go buy toyotas and regear them. :D

[scottb]

holy crap dude- think your pinion walked just a bit?!?!? never seen a ring gear do that though- seen the pinion eat the carrier before but not ring gear death!

thanks guys- now everyone go buy toyotas and regear them. :D

yeah i frickin love the welded gears- it's super easy to get sideways in the dirt now.... :D i've been trying to do 3 point turns instead of u turns to save my tires... bark bark bark bark... :) thanks again for that- it's nice so far i can go quite a few places i had to toss it into 4 wheel briefly to get over with no issues in 2 wheel drive.

funny story- yesterday coming back from VC i was heading down the hill and saw massive traffic stopped right before the left turn to go onto geiger grade. so i said F it bet i can beat em. start haulin down there- halfway down i look up and they are all right above me (following a construction truck) by the time i was at the bottom i looked up from VC highway and saw em still coming down the hill! YES!

[BIG BLUE]

[QUOTE=Sierra Valley;61551]Well I just spent all my hard earned money and gave it to samco

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holy crap Sierra even mine didnt look that bad....just some small chips off the pinon gear...i had a bolt loosen on the driver side main cap that cause my shims to shift.....plus my dad put the cap on backwards....oh well live and learn only to do it wrong again!!!!:biggrin:

[Sierra Valley]

Sam said my pinion nut backed off and the pinion slammed into the carrier and teeth.:mad:

[BIG BLUE]

that sucks when you bust a nut too soon.....bad things always happen then....:biggrin: