SHOTGUNS?!?!?!

[UniBomber]

i've been itching to get started in bird hunting. i've been out once or twice, but it's time to get my own gun and start killin' :biggrin:

i need some help deciding on a gun. i want something that is a "jack of all trades", so to speak. something that is just as at home shooting upland game as it is shooting waterfowl. i'm thinking about a gun that's a 12ga. and probably pump-action. don't know about barrel length, i'm thinking 26" would be o.k.??? since this is gonna be my first gun, i want something fairly cheap to get started on.....like $400 or less (but no cheapo BIG 5 crap-guns).

so far, i've searched and came across this. i like this one.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/benelli/nova-syn.jpg

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9935_13769_13910_13918&products_id=30644 (http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9935_13769_13910_13918&products_id=30644)

i know there's a few animal-killin' rednecks here, so does anyone have any other ideas, recommendations or helpful info??? :biggrin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i've been itching to get started in bird hunting. i've been out once or twice, but it's time to get my own gun and start killin' :biggrin:

i need some help deciding on a gun. i want something that is a "jack of all trades", so to speak. something that is just as at home shooting upland game as it is shooting waterfowl. i'm thinking about a gun that's a 12ga. and probably pump-action. don't know about barrel length, i'm thinking 26" would be o.k.??? since this is gonna be my first gun, i want something fairly cheap to get started on.....like $400 or less (but no cheapo BIG 5 crap-guns).

so far, i've searched and came across this. i like this one.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/benelli/nova-syn.jpg

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9935_13769_13910_13918&products_id=30644 (http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9935_13769_13910_13918&products_id=30644)

i know there's a few animal-killin' rednecks here, so does anyone have any other ideas, recommendations or helpful info??? :biggrin:

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT MAYBE SIERRA VALLEY COULD HELP YOU!!I HAVE AN OLDER REMINGTON 12 GAUGE PUMP THAT WORKS GOOD FOR ME(AND WHEN MY DOG SEES IT, HE IS ALREADY WAITING IN THE TRUCK!!!)

[wix]

Get an auto, not a pump. When hunting in Nv there's nothing like unloading 5 shots without pumping. In Ca we can only have 3 shells in a gun...Check the pawn shops, and really low ball them. i I offered them 250 when they were asking 400 and got I it. If you want to duck hunt make sure you can shoot at least 3 in shells. Its also nice to be able to change chokes while you're hunting. If you're chuckar hunting a light gun is a huge plus. After you get a gun then you got to get a dog! Hunting without a dog is like wheeling a subaru...not a lab either...thats wheeling a fullsize

[MR.ROCKAPE]

not a lab either...thats wheeling a fullsize

THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS!!!A GOOD BIRD DOG MAKES HUNTING THEM 100% MORE ENJOYABLE

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Were hunting opening day and we don't have a dog but we still bag quite a few birds, I hunt with a pump action w/ 26" barrel (rather go down to a 24") Personal preference, I use a Mossberg 500 (lighter than a Remington 870), I also have interchangeable chokes, and I use #6 shot for Chukkar/Quail. You're more than welcome to join us on opening day, we hunt in Kings River Canyon (well worth the drive) The more the merrier... and we have never been skunked there...(I would like to upgrade to a Semi-Auto, just gettin lazy) and my dream gun is a Benelli (9- shot semi auto, but at $1,100 +/-, it's kinda out of my price range)

You guys can PM me and I'll let you know where to meet and when we are heading out to bird hunt... We are also lookin for other areas to hunt, that is closer, I've hunted Empire and Gerlach (too many people) but I am sure there's a ton of other places close by....

[Sierra Valley]

I have several different guns, as wix said get a automatic. Nothing like a cubby of quail jumping up and unloading 3 rounds in as many seconds into them.

[Sauce]

If you want a cheap and fool proof gun, just pick up an Remington 870 express Magnum. Sportsmans warehouse has the best prices on guns in town :D

[wix]

Were hunting opening day and we don't have a dog but we still bag quite a few birds, I hunt with a pump action w/ 26" barrel (rather go down to a 24") Personal preference, I use a Mossberg 500 (lighter than a Remington 870), I also have interchangeable chokes, and I use #6 shot for Chukkar/Quail. You're more than welcome to join us on opening day, we hunt in Kings River Canyon (well worth the drive) The more the merrier... and we have never been skunked there...(I would like to upgrade to a Semi-Auto, just gettin lazy) and my dream gun is a Benelli (9- shot semi auto, but at $1,100 +/-, it's kinda out of my price range)

You guys can PM me and I'll let you know where to meet and when we are heading out to bird hunt... We are also lookin for other areas to hunt, that is closer, I've hunted Empire and Gerlach (too many people) but I am sure there's a ton of other places close by....


Man you're crazy to give up you're good spots. I wont even take family members to some of my spots. Next thing you know they tell somone who tells somone and all of Nv. finds out. Then you got a to fight for a parking spot.

A spot that I wont be going to anymore is off the Tracy Patrick exit, back by the new wall mart wharehouse. Its all Private, but just act stupid :biggrin: Went there twice last year never got asked to leave, a buddy went out there and was told to leave so I havent been back and dont plan on going back. Thousands of birds back there.

[UniBomber]

Get an auto, not a pump. When hunting in Nv there's nothing like unloading 5 shots without pumping. In Ca we can only have 3 shells in a gun...Check the pawn shops, and really low ball them. i I offered them 250 when they were asking 400 and got I it. If you want to duck hunt make sure you can shoot at least 3 in shells. Its also nice to be able to change chokes while you're hunting. If you're chuckar hunting a light gun is a huge plus. After you get a gun then you got to get a dog! Hunting without a dog is like wheeling a subaru...not a lab either...thats wheeling a fullsize

hmmmmm, auto......that sounds like fun. :biggrin: i'll go look around at the gun shops here in town and see if i like anything.

i have a dog.........just need to get him FULLY trained. he loves to go out and chase birds.....i can't wait till i can get him to actually point and retrieve for me :biggrin: . oh, and he's not a lab......labs are also like wheeling in a Jeep.....everyone's got one :wink: .

Were hunting opening day and we don't have a dog but we still bag quite a few birds, I hunt with a pump action w/ 26" barrel (rather go down to a 24") Personal preference, I use a Mossberg 500 (lighter than a Remington 870), I also have interchangeable chokes, and I use #6 shot for Chukkar/Quail. You're more than welcome to join us on opening day, we hunt in Kings River Canyon (well worth the drive) The more the merrier... and we have never been skunked there...(I would like to upgrade to a Semi-Auto, just gettin lazy) and my dream gun is a Benelli (9- shot semi auto, but at $1,100 +/-, it's kinda out of my price range)

You guys can PM me and I'll let you know where to meet and when we are heading out to bird hunt... We are also lookin for other areas to hunt, that is closer, I've hunted Empire and Gerlach (too many people) but I am sure there's a ton of other places close by....

i think i might also go out opening day but i'm going with a buddy from work. but before i start hunting, i really need to start on some clays...kinda rusty...:biggrin:

[Sierra Valley]

FYI, labs arent the best pointers. They are more like flushers. If yours isnt a pup will be pretty hard to train, however, they do retrieve.

[wix]

There's is also that loud noise that goes off, somtimes it scares an older dog that has never been around it. I use a Brittany (best brid dogs around in my opinon) He has been professinally trained and comes from some of the best lines in N.Ca. If you have a good dog, hunting is a blast even if there are no birds. Its fun just to watch the dog work. I've also got a lab (awesome duck dog). He's great for finding birds but if he gets to far out and ruins it (flushes the birds):mad: :mad: . I use to get mad at him and beat the piss out of him. And as soon as the temp gets over 55 degrees he's useless... Not his fault he's just not meant to hunt chuckar. But it does get frustrating. Usually I just leave him at home the brittany keeps me pleanty busy.



















(just joking about beating the dog)

[Sierra Valley]

Brittneys are by far the best dog I've ever hunted behind, thats why I have one. Never hunted him much, but used to watch him out in the field behind my house working the brush caught him pointing a lot when he was young.

My uncles two Britneys, now thats another story. Trained by him and pound for pound the best bird dogs ever. Can go all day long, they point, they dont get too far out and flush the birds, and they always retrieve the birds.
Sun or
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[wix]

I like the one on your right (younger one?) Is it a female? if so We should get her and mine to get it on! :thbananahump:

[Sierra Valley]

I like the one on your right (younger one?) Is it a female? if so We should get her and mine to get it on! :thbananahump:

Yeah, she's a pup. She is going to be an excellent bird dog. She is going to need another season or to before she is anywhere as good as the older dog. The one on my left is a hunting machine:biggrin:

This is my brittney
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/tahoewheelers/RubiconTrip08.jpg

[UniBomber]

FYI, labs arent the best pointers. They are more like flushers. If yours isnt a pup will be pretty hard to train, however, they do retrieve.

i don't have a lab :dontno:

i've got me a weimeraner

i also went looking at guns after work today.......i'm sticking with the benelli pump......i just want to learn on a pump rather than an auto. besides, autos are cheating:biggrin: just waiting till payday :smile:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

I THINK LABS ARE AN OK.I HAVE TWO GERMAN SHORTHAIRS,THE MALE IS A NATURAL HUNTER,NOT ALOT OF TRAINING NEEDED!!!THE FEMALE IS JUST PLAIN RETARDED!!!FAST TO RETRIEVE AND USELESS FOR ANYTHING ELSE!!!!I WOULD PROBABLY GIVE HER AWAY IF SOMEONE WANTED HER!!!(SINCE SHE WONT LET THE MALE BREED!!!)

I ALWAYS THOUGHT WEIMERANERS WERE TIMID LIKE DALMATIONS???I HAVENT SEEN MANY OF THEM HUNTING.

[UniBomber]

I ALWAYS THOUGHT WEIMERANERS WERE TIMID LIKE DALMATIONS???I HAVENT SEEN MANY OF THEM HUNTING.

timid??? definately not. but he's one energetic son-of-a-bitch (no pun intended). i was looking for a shorthair or brittany, but i got a smokin' deal on him so i just had to get him (plus, there's just something about german dogs i like). i paid $350 for him.......the others in his litter went for $1200 :eek: (he's just not full silver. his underside is a tan so he's not papered.) his parents were excellent hunters from what the owner showed and told me. this is my first attempt at training a dog for hunting, so it gets a little frustrating at times and i've still got ALOT of work ahead of me......

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Man you're crazy to give up you're good spots. I wont even take family members to some of my spots. Next thing you know they tell somone who tells somone and all of Nv. finds out. Then you got a to fight for a parking spot.

A spot that I wont be going to anymore is off the Tracy Patrick exit, back by the new wall mart wharehouse. Its all Private, but just act stupid :biggrin: Went there twice last year never got asked to leave, a buddy went out there and was told to leave so I havent been back and dont plan on going back. Thousands of birds back there.

I know what you mean, I have hunted Gerlach on opening day and Man it's like trying to claim who shot what... and as for Kings river..... there's lots and lots of birds and plenty of area so far... I think if I hit some of the powerline roads on the south end of fernley I can drive the back way into tracy clark... and maybe go undetected ???? like I said anyone is more than welcome to join up.. makes it easier and more fun to hunt... then we can all work together and push the birds back and forth.... I will call my buddy and let him know 'bout Tracy....and I'll run the roads on the back side...


Also good choice on the Benelli, but if I had the $$$ I would definetely go for the Semi Auto 9 shot.....Just gettin lazy and just like Sierra V. said nothin like jumpin on a covey of birds and not being able to shoot fast enuff....:biggrin:

[KONG]

I just picked up this. Winchester/FN working together to come up with this. I tested it against a Browning Synergy and I liked it better. Plus I shot a 24 out of 25, and followed it up with a 25 out of 25 (It's only the second time I have ever shot trap).
:wink:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/ruffian05/513034m.jpg

[UniBomber]

just got home with my new gun :biggrin:. a little late, but better than never.

i went with the Benelli.

no pics (can't find the goddamn camera :dunno:), but it looks just like this one: http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/benelli/nova-max4.jpg

.....12ga., 3 1/2", 26" barrel, Max-4 camo.....

i love it already......can't wait to shoot it. i'm making my first hunting trip this weekend for some Chukar :biggrin: out in Gerlach. i really need to get some shooting practice this week though, before i go out and hunt.

what does everyone recommend for getting some practice??? should i go to a shooting range like Sierra Sage or Capital Gun Club??? or should i just go buy me some clays and a hand thrower at Wally-World and have at it up on Peavine???

[Sauce]

just got home with my new gun :biggrin:. a little late, but better than never.

i went with the Benelli.

no pics (can't find the goddamn camera :dunno:), but it looks just like this one: http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/benelli/nova-max4.jpg

.....12ga., 3 1/2", 26" barrel, Max-4 camo.....

i love it already......can't wait to shoot it. i'm making my first hunting trip this weekend for some Chukar :biggrin: out in Gerlach. i really need to get some shooting practice this week though, before i go out and hunt.

what does everyone recommend for getting some practice??? should i go to a shooting range like Sierra Sage or Capital Gun Club??? or should i just go buy me some clays and a hand thrower at Wally-World and have at it up on Peavine???
hand thrower and some clays at wal mart. I will go and bust some clays with you...let me know if you want to go out.

[sten_mitchell]

And if you want someone who can actually shoot have sauce call me...

[UniBomber]

finally took it out and popped of a few shells today afterwork. it was too late to go to the gun club, so i went and shot some shit other people left out there......i'm ashamed of shooting a TV, but it was the only thing to shoot. i only got off about half-a-box of 2 3/4" shells (wish wal-mart had some 3 1/2", but they were out), but that was enough for me to tell that i picked a good gun. well worth the $400 i spent on it :clap: :buttkick:


hand thrower and some clays at wal mart. I will go and bust some clays with you...let me know if you want to go out.

i'm down. anytime this week after 3:30 works for me :biggrin:. where at, though??? Peavine???

[Sauce]

Sounds good JJ, peavine will work fine. The number I have for you is dead, give me a call when you get a chance. 223-9464

[UniBomber]

ok....i've gotten off about 250+ shells in the last couple of days, and i gotta say i absolutely love this gun. it's so much fun blowing shit up with it!!! :biggrin:

yesterday, me and a buddy from work went out hunting about 50 miles north of the blackrock. didn't see or hear one goddamn bird all day :mad:. i've seen pictures of this place and of the amount of chukar out there, but we got fawkin' skunked :mad:. all we saw, was a dozen or so mulies and a handfull of antelope. the only think killed yesterday, was a 'yote that my buddy got a headshot on... can't wait till i can go hunting again, but i can't go till after thanksgiving :mad:....

[Sierra Valley]

Dude, you aint gonna find no fawking chuckar road hunting. You got to get out and hunt the rough terrain, rocky outcrops, pay attention to the water holes etc. And we dont call it killen thats why we call it huntin cause your never guaranteed a kill. Always fun either way for me.

[UniBomber]

Dude, you aint gonna find no fawking chuckar road hunting. You got to get out and hunt the rough terrain, rocky outcrops, pay attention to the water holes etc. And we dont call it killen thats why we call it huntin cause your never guaranteed a kill. Always fun either way for me.

really??? :rolleyes:

that's exactly what we did.....we rode in on a quad, then hiked up the very rocky hills, down to the watering holes and ponds, then back up some other hills. we knew where the Chukar SHOULD be at, but they just weren't fawking there!!! :mad: still a lot of fun, but getting skunked sucks none the less :biggrin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

really??? :rolleyes:

that's exactly what we did.....we rode in on a quad, then hiked up the very rocky hills, down to the watering holes and ponds, then back up some other hills. we knew where the Chukar SHOULD be at, but they just weren't fawking there!!! :mad: still a lot of fun, but getting skunked sucks none the less :biggrin:

DID YOU GUYS HAVE A DOG???MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD!!!!THOSE BIRDS ARE PRETTY SMART AND ONLY FLY WHEN THE HAVE TO!!!!

[UniBomber]

DID YOU GUYS HAVE A DOG???MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD!!!!THOSE BIRDS ARE PRETTY SMART AND ONLY FLY WHEN THE HAVE TO!!!!

no room for the dog with two guys and one quad and all.......had to leave the pup at home :(. plus, with the amount of ground we covered, we should have at least seen ONE bird........we didn't even see any quail :eek:. funny how you go out hunting and only see animals that you're not hunting for :D.

[wix]

no room for the dog with two guys and one quad and all.......had to leave the pup at home :(. plus, with the amount of ground we covered, we should have at least seen ONE bird........we didn't even see any quail :eek:. funny how you go out hunting and only see animals that you're not hunting for :D.


I would have left somone behind in order to bring a dog. IMO, #1 tool=gun #2tool=dog, and #3 is a shock collar! You think you covered a lot of ground? Get a good dog and it will multiply the ground you cover by 1000. I would never leave the dog behind, but thats one reason why I go, to watch my dog work.
Here's HUCK, he is 80% hardcore, Climbs rocks you only dream about and never gets tired. No dr needed to score him!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/huck.jpg
Dont have any hunting pics yet, wife is gonna have a baby anyday and used all my hunt days up in oregon last week looking for elk. I've been out once so far this year and somone beat us to our spot and shot up all the birds...

[Sierra Valley]

I would have left somone behind in order to bring a dog. IMO, #1 tool=gun #2tool=dog, and #3 is a shock collar! You think you covered a lot of ground? Get a good dog and it will multiply the ground you cover by 1000. I would never leave the dog behind, but thats one reason why I go, to watch my dog work.
Here's HUCK, he is 80% hardcore, Climbs rocks you only dream about and never gets tired. No dr needed to score him!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/huck.jpg
Dont have any hunting pics yet, wife is gonna have a baby anyday and used all my hunt days up in oregon last week looking for elk. I've been out once so far this year and somone beat us to our spot and shot up all the birds...

WTF, we going this weekend or what? I know where the birds be my man.

[wix]

WTF, we going this weekend or what? I know where the birds be my man.

Wife supposed to squeeze out a baby this weekend so I cant leave her out here in no mans land by her self...

[Sierra Valley]

Good call

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Wife supposed to squeeze out a baby this weekend so I cant leave her out here in no mans land by her self...

MINE TOO!!!WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS!!!!:biggrin: HOPE IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE CRACKMONKEY!!!!:pray:

[Sierra Valley]

MINE TOO!!!WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS!!!!:biggrin: HOPE IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE CRACKMONKEY!!!!:pray:

Or Sierra Valley for that matter:pray:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Or Sierra Valley for that matter:pray:

WE KNOW YOU ONLY LIKE MEN!!!I THINK IF I WORRIED ABOUT THAT KINDA THING.........I WOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT ANY ONE OF THE SUBARU NATION BEFORE YOU!!!!!:clap: :mullet:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

the real reasons unit-bomber cant get his dog to hunt!!!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/fny1011_10.jpg too gay??

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/laughs00037.jpg thinks its a deer????:biggrin:

[billmtnman]

Hey..., any of you guys know of a sporting clays course anywhere around the Reno area? I shot a course out in Utah, it was the most fun you could have standing up! I am pretty close to Sacramento..., anybody?

[Reno Computer Repair]

Sage Hill Gun Club

Take the Damonte Ranch Exit, fllow it to the left past RC Willey, at the last stop sign at the base of the mountain, turn left, and about 1/2 a mile on the right.

They have Trap, Skeet, Sporting Clays. Fun

[billmtnman]

outstanding!

[dharris]

These are my huntin baby's, the Brit is going to be my prized dog. My ESP needs some work with the gun, kinda gun shy fow now. The ESP just truned one and the Brit just turned eleven months.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/dharris1969/My%20pups/Buttermilks-Rusty1.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/dharris1969/My%20pups/SilverCanyon-PotterandRusty.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/dharris1969/My%20pups/Powderdogs.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/dharris1969/Rusty%20Elvis/PotterRusty.jpg

[Sierra Valley]

Thats it, I need to get another brit!!!! My other one is too old 16 years:eek:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

nice lookin dogs.......gun shy is kinda hard to get them out of!!!My parents had a english pointer,she was so bad as soon as you shot,she would go back to the truck and circle it for 15 minutes!!!!She was given to us from a trainer for field dogs....he said when she was 8 weeks old its owner had taken her out and was firing a full auto AR-15,and she was ruined after that.

She was a damn good watch dog though!!!(as most working class dogs are!!!)

[dharris]

nice lookin dogs.......gun shy is kinda hard to get them out of!!!My parents had a english pointer,she was so bad as soon as you shot,she would go back to the truck and circle it for 15 minutes!!!!She was given to us from a trainer for field dogs....he said when she was 8 weeks old its owner had taken her out and was firing a full auto AR-15,and she was ruined after that.

She was a damn good watch dog though!!!(as most working class dogs are!!!)

When I fire of about 10 shells, my dog will head to the truck and lay down under it. After a couple boxes, he comes out and looks around, I think he sees my Brit eye balling clays, then comes out for a while. I have heard "gun shyness" is hard to break, but I think it can be done, may take a while...
Even if I can't break the dog from being shy, he's a great family dog and as you mentioned, a killer watch dog.

[Connect]

I have a Cocker/Brittany spaniel, he is about 13 years old, never took him hunting but he's not afraid of guns and loves to chase birds

[MR.ROCKAPE]

When I fire of about 10 shells, my dog will head to the truck and lay down under it. After a couple boxes, he comes out and looks around, I think he sees my Brit eye balling clays, then comes out for a while. I have heard "gun shyness" is hard to break, but I think it can be done, may take a while...
Even if I can't break the dog from being shy, he's a great family dog and as you mentioned, a killer watch dog.

MAYBE TRY A SMALLER GUN???SAY A .22 THEN A 4-10 SHOT GUN THEN A 20 GAUGE AND ON AND ON???THE POINTER WAS OK WITH A .22 BUT THAT WAS IT!!!!

ON THE UPSIDE MY GERMAN SHORTHAIR THAT I HAVE NOW....YOU CAN REST THE GUN ON HIS BACK AND HE DOESNT EVEN FLINCH WHEN YA FIRE IT!!!I THINK HE MAKES SV FLINCH IN THE BACKYARD THOUGH!!!!!HE DID BITE CRACKMONKEY WHILE IN MY BACKYARD ONCE!!!BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A RACIST DOG!!!(YOU KNOW HOW GERMANS HATE EVERYBODY???):eek:

[BIG BLUE]

ON THE UPSIDE MY GERMAN SHORTHAIR THAT I HAVE NOW....I CAN SHOOT ON HIS BACK AND HE DOESNT EVEN FLINCH WHEN I DO IT!!!:eek:

hmmm I didnt need to know that. Nice dogs. Its pretty hard to break a dog of gun shyness. Mine eventually got used to it bet never liked it....and if he wasnt ready when I started shooting he would split and then come back after a few minutes.

[Connect]

You should of just changed his post, and then quoted him!

[BIG BLUE]

thats A good idea I forget I have the magic power to do that....but then again so does he so we would just sit here all day changing each others posts...thread hijack over....