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blackwidow
October 22nd, 2006, 06:32 PM
Alright I thought I found a good write up of a guy moving his spring mounts forward 6.5": said it would give my shackle perfect angle. well here was what I came up with:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1033.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1031.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1030.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1028.jpg

I was trying to keep the shackle mount fixed because I tend to bob the bed soon. Do you guys think I should move the spring mount forward some more or adjust the shackle mount? I'm thinkin just weld the shackle mount about
2" back but wanted to get others opinions...Any help appreciated.

Dirty Harry
October 22nd, 2006, 09:28 PM
Is the tire centered in the wheelwell? If so, I would move the shackle hangers back. If not, I would move the front spring hangers. At least you only tacked them in place, that was smart. :clap:

blackwidow
October 22nd, 2006, 09:44 PM
Is the tire centered in the wheelwell? If so, I would move the shackle hangers back. If not, I would move the front spring hangers. At least you only tacked them in place, that was smart. :clap:


yes I tacked them in for this exact reason....and yes they are centered in the wheelwell...I am going to move the shackle hanger back

MR.ROCKAPE
October 22nd, 2006, 09:47 PM
HOW ABOUT LONGER SHACKLES???OR WOULD IT BE TOO HIGH???

blackwidow
October 22nd, 2006, 10:00 PM
HOW ABOUT LONGER SHACKLES???OR WOULD IT BE TOO HIGH???


I think longer shackles would make it too high. I mean these are 8.5" long already :eek: I think moving the shackle mounts back about 2" or so will make it perfect

yotapower
October 22nd, 2006, 10:56 PM
10 inches from stock location forward

yotapower
October 22nd, 2006, 10:59 PM
THATS WHERE YOU GET 2-3 INCHES OF LIFT IS MOVING THE PERCH FROM THE BEND OF THE FRAME TO THE FLAT PART OF THE FRAME

yotapower
October 22nd, 2006, 11:13 PM
DOES THIS HELP:biggrin:

blackwidow
October 22nd, 2006, 11:27 PM
thanks yota......thought you were a 'no-show' now....

yotapower
October 23rd, 2006, 04:17 PM
AND MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE LONG SIDE OF THE RANGER FORWARD AND YOUR AXLE WILL BE IN STOCK LOCATION:biggrin:

yotapower
October 23rd, 2006, 04:24 PM
Alright I thought I found a good write up of a guy moving his spring mounts forward 6.5": said it would give my shackle perfect angle. well here was what I came up with:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1033.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1031.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1030.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1028.jpg

I was trying to keep the shackle mount fixed because I tend to bob the bed soon. Do you guys think I should move the spring mount forward some more or adjust the shackle mount? I'm thinkin just weld the shackle mount about
2" back but wanted to get others opinions...Any help appreciated.

YOU GOT THEM ON BACKWARDS:clap:

blackwidow
October 23rd, 2006, 04:56 PM
YOU GOT THEM ON BACKWARDS:clap:

Really? Well I guess when I fix the mounts I will be flippin them around then :biggrin:

yotapower
October 23rd, 2006, 05:01 PM
YOU COULD PROBALLY GO 8-9 INCHES AND GET A LITTLE MORE OF A SHACKLE ANGLE BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH MINE

blackwidow
October 23rd, 2006, 05:02 PM
YOU COULD PROBALLY GO 8-9 INCHES AND GET A LITTLE MORE OF A SHACKLE ANGLE BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH MINE

YOTA: Would I still get the same flex out of these springs if I simply left them and just moved the shackle hangers back a couple inches?

yotapower
October 23rd, 2006, 05:08 PM
I DONT SEE WHY NOT BUT WHY CHANGE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL KNOW WORKS? YOU JUST TACKED YOUR FRONT HANGERS WHY NOT JUST MOVE THEM FORWARD AND SWITCH THE SPRINGS? :fight:

blackwidow
October 23rd, 2006, 05:12 PM
I DONT SEE WHY NOT BUT WHY CHANGE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL KNOW WORKS? YOU JUST TACKED YOUR FRONT HANGERS WHY NOT JUST MOVE THEM FORWARD AND SWITCH THE SPRINGS? :fight:

True that.....I think I'll try around 8.5" or so first and go from there

yotapower
October 23rd, 2006, 05:16 PM
True that.....I think I'll try around 8.5" or so first and go from there

THAT SHOULD BE GOOD MY SHACKLES ARE ALMOST STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN THE ONLY REASON I HAVENT CHANGED IT IS BECAUSE IT HAS CAUSED A PROBLEM YET LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS:biggrin:

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Alright Duncan....I relocated my leafs, turned around like you said, and I made them 8.5" instead of the 6.5" I had before. Here are the results:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1036.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1034.jpg compared to:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1031.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1030.jpg


Much happier!!! :clap: Now I just have to wait till it's not cold as F##$ outside to weld them all the way up

UniBomber
October 25th, 2006, 08:05 PM
looks good :clap:

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 08:12 PM
this is the way she sits right now....

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1039.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dmills01/Picturesgroup1038.jpg

waggy's front, ranger rear

Sauce
October 25th, 2006, 08:28 PM
wheres my welder and co2 tank ya damn nigger!

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 08:35 PM
wheres my welder and co2 tank ya damn nigger!

I am almost done....really...I just need to weld them up..then you can have it to do your hinges

MR.ROCKAPE
October 25th, 2006, 09:21 PM
NOW YOU REALLY NEED TO CUT THE BED!!!!:biggrin:

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 09:24 PM
NOW YOU REALLY NEED TO CUT THE BED!!!!:biggrin:

:clap: that's the best advise I've hear yet...And I totally agree :thBEER:

yotapower
October 25th, 2006, 10:28 PM
GLAD I COULD HELP THAT THING LOOKS GOOD BOB THE BED OR DO A FLAT BED AND IT WILL BE PERFECT. HAVE YOU PUT THE DUAL CASES IN

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 10:47 PM
HAVE YOU PUT THE DUAL CASES IN

Haven't put the cases in yet...still need to figure out what to do for a cross member....And I also need to put my buckets in so when I cut up my floor, the shifter doesn't hit my bench seat.

yotapower
October 25th, 2006, 11:00 PM
MARLIN SELLS A PRETTY SICK CROSSMEMBER THAT BOLTS IN OR THERE ARE SOME OTHER WAYS TO MAKE THE STOCK ONE WORK (WHICH IS WHAT I DID)

blackwidow
October 25th, 2006, 11:06 PM
MARLIN SELLS A PRETTY SICK CROSSMEMBER THAT BOLTS IN OR THERE ARE SOME OTHER WAYS TO MAKE THE STOCK ONE WORK (WHICH IS WHAT I DID)

Well I really liked the way Dr. Smash had his flush mounted, but pretty pricey the way he has it. The main thing I want is one with higher clearance...I now the All-Pro cross member is 1 3/4" higher up than stock...the Marlin cross member doesn't say....

Dirty Harry
October 26th, 2006, 06:42 AM
MARLIN SELLS A PRETTY SICK CROSSMEMBER THAT BOLTS IN OR THERE ARE SOME OTHER WAYS TO MAKE THE STOCK ONE WORK (WHICH IS WHAT I DID)

Marlin's is a ripoff of Budbuilt's crossmember. I would just go Budbuilt and support the innovator. You can order them with less drop if you have a body lift or want to cut the tranny tunnel to tuck up the transfer case. I have a Front Range Off Road crossmember and they are really nice also, but a little more expensive and involved to install compared to the Budbuilt.

L.D.
October 26th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Marlin's is a ripoff of Budbuilt's crossmember. I would just go Budbuilt and support the innovator. You can order them with less drop if you have a body lift or want to cut the tranny tunnel to tuck up the transfer case. I have a Front Range Off Road crossmember and they are really nice also, but a little more expensive and involved to install compared to the Budbuilt.

i second that, i have a Budbuilt w/1.5"lift and love it. if you want to look at it before you buy one let me know.

blackwidow
October 26th, 2006, 11:58 AM
i second that, i have a Budbuilt w/1.5"lift and love it. if you want to look at it before you buy one let me know.

A 1.5" lift and do you have a body lift or anything? Because I do not have a body lift and I only see cutting up my trannel tunnel if I'm going to flush mount it. The All-Pro crossmember has a 1 3/4" lift on it and was thinking that route...just don't know how sturdy they are. I would like to check it out sometime if you don't mind