View Full Version : PROJECT LO-BUDGET PIMPIN BEGINS.......
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 10:21 PM
ONLY A COUPLE PICS..........
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0566.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0565.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 10:38 PM
DESIGN & BUILD GOALS!!!!
ULTRA LOW WEIGHT BUT STILL BE SAFE......(UNDER 2000LBS WET)MINUS ME!!!
CHASSIS.....160FT OF 1.5 DOM .120 WALL(SINGLE SEATER)
ENGINE/TRANS/T-CASE.... REAR ENGINE,HONDA CIVIC 1.6L/AUTO TRANS/NO T-CASE
TWO TOYOTA FRONT AXLES,REAR FLIPPED SO DRIVELINES CAN RUN DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE VEHICLE(WELDED DIFFS, FOUR WHEEL STEERING)
TIRES???WHEELS???37-39 INCH TIRES,POSSIBLY NO BEADLOCKS TO KEEP BUDGET LOW.
4 14INCH AIR SHOCKS
3 LINK PANHARDS???(STILL UNDECIDED!!!)
18-20INCH BELLY CLEARANCE
TOTAL CHASSIS HEIGHT 41 INCHES,WIDTH 36+/-,LENGTH ABOUT 8 1/2 FEET
WHEEL BASE 98-101 INCHES,TRACK WIDTH 70-76(WILL BE SET WITH WHEEL OFFSET)
blackwidow
December 4th, 2006, 10:44 PM
:eek: the project begins!!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME :Big Grin: go with some
39"..um KRawlers :thbling: :thbling:
Dirty Harry
December 4th, 2006, 10:47 PM
Since you are starting on a new project does this mean that the Throttle Truggy and the YJ back-half are done? :mullet:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 10:49 PM
THIS IS MY CHASSIS DESIGN,BUT IT MAY CHANGE ALOT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF FRONT AND REAR SUSPENSION I RUN.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/NEWBUGGY.gif
AND I ALREADY KNOW THAT AT THE VERY LEAST I WILL NEED TO PUT 30 SPLINE LONGS IN THOSE AXLES IF THEY ARE GOING TO LIVE........:eek:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Since you are starting on a new project does this mean that the Throttle Truggy and the YJ back-half are done? :mullet:
CLOSE.......AND ARE THEY REALLY EVER DONE????:cool:
Dirty Harry
December 4th, 2006, 10:57 PM
CLOSE.......AND ARE THEY REALLY EVER DONE????:cool:
Mine definitely aren't. :rolleyes:
I am curious to see how close you come to your projected weight. How much does the 160 ft. of DOM weight?
UniBomber
December 4th, 2006, 11:18 PM
what is the target cost of the build???
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 11:20 PM
about 1.78lbs per foot!!!
http://www.schoolboybitch.com/techSteel.htm
SO CHASSIS 284LBS???
AXLES 238 EACH SO BOTH 476LBS!!!
MOTOR /TRANS........320ish!!!!!
TIRES AND WHEELS???AT LEAST 100LBS EACH X 4=400
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 11:28 PM
what is the target cost of the build???
UNDER 5K!!!!:eek: FOR THAT PRICE THOUGH I MAY BE ON SOME USED TIRES WITHOUT BEADLOCKS!!!!
BUT AS OF NOW HERES WHAT I SPENT....
DOM TUBE SO FAR......$600!!!!
MOTOR/TRANS HARNESS(WRECKED COMPLETE CIVIC WITH 100K ON IT $200!!!)
AXLES!!!!TWO TOYOTA MINI TRUCK FRONTS WITH 5.29 THIRDS....$200!!!(GOTTA LOVE THE CRACKHEADS!!!)
TWO TOYOTA FRONT DRIVELINES....FREE!!!!
MAJOR COSTS TO STILL BUY...
AIRSHOCKS X 4 $875
HYDRO STEERING ???AT LEAST $1000
WHEELS AND TIRES???
HEIMS AND LINK MATERIAL???
FUEL CELL(MIGHT BE CHEAP IF I CAN FIND A CELL TO MAKE THE CIVIC PUMP WORK IN!!!)
BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER AND PEDAL ASSEMBLY($200 OR SO)
UniBomber
December 4th, 2006, 11:33 PM
UNDER 5K!!!!:eek: FOR THAT PRICE THOUGH I MAY BE ON SOME USED TIRES WITHOUT BEADLOCKS!!!!
BUT AS OF NOW HERES WHAT I SPENT....
MOTOR/TRANS HARNESS(WRECKED COMPLETE CIVIC WITH 100K ON IT $200!!!)
AXLES!!!!TWO TOYOTA MINI TRUCK FRONTS WITH 5.29 THIRDS....$200!!!(GOTTA LOVE THE CRACKHEADS!!!)
TWO TOYOTA FRONT DRIVELINES....FREE!!!!
MAJOR COSTS TO STILL BUY...
AIRSHOCKS X 4 $875
HYDRO STEERING ???AT LEAST $1000
WHEELS AND TIRES???
HEIMS AND LINK MATERIAL???
FUEL CELL(MIGHT BE CHEAP IF I CAN FIND A CELL TO MAKE THE CIVIC PUMP WORK IN!!!)
BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER AND PEDAL ASSEMBLY($200 OR SO)
hmmmmmm, i like where this is going. wanna make two chassis??? :Big Grin:
still trying to figure out the no t-case part.....i know this is how the Rhinos are setup, but how does it all work and still have a low enough cralw ratio???
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 11:36 PM
hmmmmmm, i like where this is going. wanna make two chassis??? :Big Grin:
MAYBE.......I MAY START BENDING THIS WEEKEND!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 11:42 PM
hmmmmmm, i like where this is going. wanna make two chassis??? :Big Grin:
still trying to figure out the no t-case part.....i know this is how the Rhinos are setup, but how does it all work and still have a low enough cralw ratio???
THE RHINOS ARE KINDA LIKE THIS(BUT WAY HEAVIER)YOU WELD THE DIFF IN THE TRANS AXLE,USE THE CV AXLE OUTPUTS FOR YOUR FRONT AND REAR DRIVE LINES!!!!CRAWL RATIO???3.27 FIRST GEAR,4.33 RING AND PINION(IN TRANSAXLE)AND 5.29 GEARS IN THE AXLES!!!!74.9 TO 1!!!WITH AN AUTO!!!!SO MULTIPLY THAT X 2!!!!149.80 TO 1!!!SHOULD BE OK!!!!SUZUKIS ONLY MAKE 50-60 HP, THE CIVIC MAKES 106!!!AND COULD EASILY UPGRADE ITS PERFORMANCE!!!(I KNOW A GOOD HONDA TECH!!!):Big Grin:
UniBomber
December 4th, 2006, 11:46 PM
THE RHINOS ARE KINDA LIKE THIS(BUT WAY HEAVIER)YOU WELD THE DIFF IN THE TRANS AXLE,USE THE CV AXLE OUTPUTS FOR YOUR FRONT AND REAR DRIVE LINES!!!!CRAWL RATIO???3.27 FIRST GEAR,4.33 RING AND PINION(IN TRANSAXLE)AND 5.29 GEARS IN THE AXLES!!!!74.9 TO 1!!!WITH AN AUTO!!!!SO MULTIPLY THAT X 2!!!!149.80 TO 1!!!SHOULD BE OK!!!!SUZUKIS ONLY MAKE 50-60 HP, THE CIVIC MAKES 106!!!AND COULD EASILY UPGRADE ITS PERFORMANCE!!!(I KNOW A GOOD HONDA TECH!!!):Big Grin:
nice. that's some cool shit right there. :Big Grin:
Ford_KTM
December 4th, 2006, 11:48 PM
no offense, but i think your gonna be a little over 5000...Cool build tho...BTW, how much do the longfields cost??Cant wait to see how it comes out...
MR.ROCKAPE
December 4th, 2006, 11:55 PM
no offense, but i think your gonna be a little over 5000...Cool build tho...BTW, how much do the longfields cost??Cant wait to see how it comes out...
I WILL PROBABLY OVER SHOOT MY COST BUT NOT BY MUCH:rolleyes: !!!LONGS WOULD DEFINATLY PUT ME OVER!!!I THINK THEY ARE ABOUT $800 AN END!!!ILL BREAK WHATS IN IT FIRST THEN UPGRADE!!!THE AXLES WILL LIKELY BE A WEAK POINT BUT MY THOUGHT IS WITH LOW WEIGHT AND AN AUTO TRANS TO KEEP THE SHOCK LOAD DOWN......IT JUST MIGHT LIVE!!!!IF NOT,I CAN ALWAYS UPGRADE AFTER IT IS BUILT!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 12:13 AM
HERE I AM!!!!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/PIMP.jpg
UniBomber
December 5th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I WILL PROBABLY OVER SHOOT MY COST BUT NOT BY MUCH:rolleyes: !!!LONGS WOULD DEFINATLY PUT ME OVER!!!I THINK THEY ARE ABOUT $800 AN END!!!ILL BREAK WHATS IN IT FIRST THEN UPGRADE!!!THE AXLES WILL LIKELY BE A WEAK POINT BUT MY THOUGHT IS WITH LOW WEIGHT AND AN AUTO TRANS TO KEEP THE SHOCK LOAD DOWN......IT JUST MIGHT LIVE!!!!IF NOT,I CAN ALWAYS UPGRADE AFTER IT IS BUILT!!!!
longs are ~$650 a set. there, i just saved ya $300 :mullet: :Big Grin: .
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 09:12 AM
If your gonna run stock birfs on 39's it wont take long to upgrade to the newfields. Shit my buddy broke both birfields on 35s quickly:rolleyes:
jeeper89
December 5th, 2006, 02:45 PM
ONLY A COUPLE PICS..........
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0566.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0565.jpg
:39: the tires on the throttle truggy are almost bald..:buttkick:
dane
December 5th, 2006, 05:24 PM
I WILL PROBABLY OVER SHOOT MY COST BUT NOT BY MUCH:rolleyes: !!!LONGS WOULD DEFINATLY PUT ME OVER!!!I THINK THEY ARE ABOUT $800 AN END!!!ILL BREAK WHATS IN IT FIRST THEN UPGRADE!!!THE AXLES WILL LIKELY BE A WEAK POINT BUT MY THOUGHT IS WITH LOW WEIGHT AND AN AUTO TRANS TO KEEP THE SHOCK LOAD DOWN......IT JUST MIGHT LIVE!!!!IF NOT,I CAN ALWAYS UPGRADE AFTER IT IS BUILT!!!!
I would highly suggest selling the stock birfs to some poor toyota wheeler (arent they all) and putting that money towards the longs. I have personally broken stock birfs in an open diff toy on 35's. Its not the shockoad you need to worry about, its the torque you are putting on the birfs especially in the rear. Locked I dont see that "rear" axle lasting more than 1/2 hour tops anywhere with any traction. This is only my .02 and its your build so I will just shut up now!!!
Dane
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 05:27 PM
Why not cut down some 44s and do chromos better than toy axles. B2 just cut one down sunday while I was pulling my engnine sunday. Cut it down 6 inches and it will be going under a extended cab 95 toy.
dane
December 5th, 2006, 05:40 PM
Why not cut down some 44s and do chromos better than toy axles. B2 just cut one down sunday while I was pulling my engnine sunday. Cut it down 6 inches and it will be going under a extended cab 95 toy.
I dont necessarily agree that 44's with chromos are better than toys with longs. Its a fair arguement, but I still think I would go with the yotas. I used yota axles under my v8 jeep with 100:1 crawl ratio welded front and rear with only 27 spline longs and a heavy ass foot. I have a pic of the front end 4' in the air with 38's spinnin on a toy front end with no damage. Those toys are badass axles when you go to 30 splines.
Dane
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 05:44 PM
They probably are stronger (newfields) I just personally would never use a toyota axle after what we went through on the fordyce a month ago. Spent two days wrenching on a winch hill b/c they broke. Wasted two days of vacation to wrench, had no fun and we ended up leaving it and we also broke a ford 9" in the process of trying to pull it out. So Im very biased against birfields.
Plus its foreign:tongue:
yotapower
December 5th, 2006, 05:45 PM
Why not cut down some 44s and do chromos better than toy axles. B2 just cut one down sunday while I was pulling my engnine sunday. Cut it down 6 inches and it will be going under a extended cab 95 toy.
I WHEELED FOR 3 YEARS ON YOTA AXLES LOCKED FRONT AND REAR AND BROKE 3 BIRFS I PUT A 44 IN THE FRONT AND BROKE EVERYTIME I WENT OUT TOYS ARE STONG! IN FAIRNESS MY STYLE OF DRIVING AND THE TRAILS HAVE PROGRESSIVLY GOTTEN HARDER:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 05:47 PM
OK....REMEMBER ITS GONNA BE LIGHT,HALF THE WEIGHT OF A TOYOTA TRUCK!!!!DANA 44s NOT LIGHT!!!!!AND IF I CUT THEM DOWN THEN I NEED SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR AXLE SHAFTS=MORE MONEY!!!IF I BREAK AN AXLE ALL I NEED TO TELL SOMEONE IS TOYOTA FRONT AXLE!!!!PLUS THE FACT THAT THESE ARE PRETTY NARROW ALLOWS ME MORE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE HOW WIDE OR NOT I WANT IT!!!!:cool:
throttleboy
December 5th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Why not cut down some 44s and do chromos better than toy axles. B2 just cut one down sunday while I was pulling my engnine sunday. Cut it down 6 inches and it will be going under a extended cab 95 toy.
REMEMBER HE'S TRYIN TO KEEP IT UNDER 2000LBS!!!!
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 05:51 PM
Forgot about the 2000lbs. So how much do you think my jeep weighs out of curiousity?
dane
December 5th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Plus its foreign:tongue:
That was my favorite part of having them under my jeep. The jeep guys would grenade when they saw it. It was damn near the same reaction milcrawl gets when people find out its a damn near new rubicon!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Forgot about the 2000lbs. So how much do you think my jeep weighs out of curiousity?
32-3300 \LBS (APROX)MAYBE MORE!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Plus its foreign:tongue:
THE WHOLE THING WILL BE FOREIGN!!!!REMEMBER I HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHOP CALLED........ASIAN SPECIALIZED???CAN YOU SAY TAX WRITE OFF???:eek: OR ADVERTISING????:Big Grin:
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 06:01 PM
32-3300 \LBS (APROX)MAYBE MORE!!!!
So that make sense, they should be able to stand up a bit more.
Whats Renojeepster have in his toy axles are they newfields cause he is running 37s.
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:04 PM
So that make sense, they should be able to stand up a bit more.
Whats Renojeepster have in his toy axles are they newfields cause he is running 37s.
I DIDNT KNOW HE HAD TOY AXLES???
dane
December 5th, 2006, 06:08 PM
THE WHOLE THING WILL BE FOREIGN!!!!REMEMBER I HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHOP CALLED........ASIAN SPECIALIZED???CAN YOU SAY TAX WRITE OFF???:eek: OR ADVERTISING????:Big Grin:
As far as tax writeoffs go you should get a new enclosed 5th wheel toy hauler with sleeping quarters and a new Dodge to transport your advertising. :eek: :eek: All you need to do is toss some stickers on everything and sit back and listen to your friends bitch about you ripping off the gov't. But you know they would do it in a heartbeat if they could!!!
Sierra Valley
December 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM
I DIDNT KNOW HE HAD TOY AXLES???
Yeah, he runs toy axles on his jeepster front and rear. I believe he has newfields (has to with 37's and lockers).
Dirty Harry
December 5th, 2006, 06:15 PM
So that make sense, they should be able to stand up a bit more.
Whats Renojeepster have in his toy axles are they newfields cause he is running 37s.
RenoJeepster has Longfields but he is upgrading to one ton axles.
Cool build Jeremy, similar to the Saturn powered moon buggy that Rockware built. Light typically equals expensive so I appreciate that you are doing it light on the cheap. No $10k VW engine like Tiny. Maybe I can help you with that "advertising". :wink:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Yeah, he runs toy axles on his jeepster front and rear. I believe he has newfields (has to with 37's and lockers).
WELL THEN THERE YOU GO!!!!I KNOW HIS JEEPSTER IS HEAVIER THAN THIS 4WD QUAD WITH A CAGE!!!:eek: ITS AN EXPERIMENT.......BUT I THINK IT WILL WORK!!!I HAVE WATCHED THE RHINO VIDEOS ON THEIR SITE AND THEY SCOOT ALONG PRETTY GOOD WITH 4.10 GEARS,MINE WONT GO AS FAST,BUT WILL BE LIGHTER AND GEARED LOWER!!!!PLUS HOW BLING IS FOUR WHEEL STEER???(LO-BUDGET PIMPIN!!!!)
dane
December 5th, 2006, 06:23 PM
PLUS HOW BLING IS FOUR WHEEL STEER???(LO-BUDGET PIMPIN!!!!)
I still dont entirely understand how to set up the hydro for the rear steer, will that be in your buildup for us lowly mortals???
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:25 PM
RenoJeepster has Longfields but he is upgrading to one ton axles.
Cool build Jeremy, similar to the Saturn powered moon buggy that Rockware built. Light typically equals expensive so I appreciate that you are doing it light on the cheap. No $10k VW engine like Tiny. Maybe I can help you with that "advertising". :wink:
ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!!!!PARTS DONATIONS ARE GLADLY ACCEPTED!!!IM TRYING TO BEAT THE DR.(AND HIS IS HALF BUILT!!!:ohyes: )
I FIGURE I CAN PROBABLY HAVE IT IN A ROLLER STATE WITH ABOUT A 100 HOURS OF TIME.......I AM HOPING THAT ALL PREVIOUS RIGS I HAVE BUILT WILL ALLOW ME TO STREAM LINE THIS BUILD!!!!I THINK THE MOST TIME CONSUMING PART IS BUILDING BRACKETS!!!!(I WILL BUY AXLE BRACKETS LIKE I DID ON THE YJ BUILD!!!)NOW THAT THE TRICKEST PART IS DONE(THE REAR AXLE)IT IS ON TO THE CHASSIS!!!(MY FAVORITE PART!!!)
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:28 PM
I still dont entirely understand how to set up the hydro for the rear steer, will that be in your buildup for us lowly mortals???
Dane
IF YOU ASK (AND ARE AS FAMOUS AS I AM!!!)ON PIRATE THEY WILL HOOK YOU UP LIKE ME!!!!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/SeriesRearSteerPlumb-WebShrunk.jpg
dane
December 5th, 2006, 06:41 PM
IF YOU ASK (AND ARE AS FAMOUS AS I AM!!!)ON PIRATE THEY WILL HOOK YOU UP LIKE ME!!!!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/SeriesRearSteerPlumb-WebShrunk.jpg
right click, save as, thank you very much. I might unlock that rear yet. It seems a waste to have a front axle in the rear and not have rear steer!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:46 PM
right click, save as, thank you very much. I might unlock that rear yet. It seems a waste to have a front axle in the rear and not have rear steer!!!
Dane
HERES THE REAR VALVE....
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=1158&cat=387&page=1
AND GET A CYLINDER FROM WWW.SURPLUSCENTER.COM AND BE SOMEBODY!!!!IF YOU ARENT GONNA USE THAT STEERING AXLE ILL TRADE YA THE NON STEER ONE OUT OF THE THROTTLE TRUGGY!!!!!COMPLETE WITH 3LINK BRACKET AND TOP LINK MOUNT!!!
dane
December 5th, 2006, 06:49 PM
HERES THE REAR VALVE....
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=1158&cat=387&page=1
AND GET A CYLINDER FROM WWW.SURPLUSCENTER.COM AND BE SOMEBODY!!!!IF YOU ARENT GONNA USE THAT STEERING AXLE ILL TRADE YA THE NON STEER ONE OUT OF THE THROTTLE TRUGGY!!!!!COMPLETE WITH 3LINK BRACKET AND TOP LINK MOUNT!!!
No thanks on the non-steer axle, but thanks for the hookup on how to setup the rs. I guess I might as well do it b4 i get too drunk at mr and end up with the axle out of the throttle truggy!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 06:52 PM
No thanks on the non-steer axle, but thanks for the hookup on how to setup the rs. I guess I might as well do it b4 i get too drunk at mr and end up with the axle out of the throttle truggy!!!
Dane
I CAN GET ANOTHER STEERING ROCKWELL AROUND HERE I JUST DONT WANT TO HAVE TO PAY $800 FOR IT!!!!:mad: GOT A HOOK UP???
dane
December 5th, 2006, 06:53 PM
I CAN GET ANOTHER STEERING ROCKWELL AROUND HERE I JUST DONT WANT TO HAVE TO PAY $800 FOR IT!!!!:mad: GOT A HOOK UP???
Holy hell, I'll see what I can do. I got my last set (front and rear) for $600.00.
I tend to find shit, so I will keep my eyes open. Nobody I run with wants rocks, the only person with remotely cool axles is milcrawl and his mogs!!
Dane
jeeper89
December 5th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Holy hell, I'll see what I can do. I got my last set (front and rear) for $600.00.
I tend to find shit, so I will keep my eyes open. Nobody I run with wants rocks, the only person with remotely cool axles is milcrawl and his mogs!!
Dane
if you happen to find a set.. send me a PM.. i am lookin for some:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 5th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Holy hell, I'll see what I can do. I got my last set (front and rear) for $600.00.
I tend to find shit, so I will keep my eyes open. Nobody I run with wants rocks, the only person with remotely cool axles is milcrawl and his mogs!!
Dane
I JUST WANT TO 4 WHEEL STEER THE THROTTLE TRUGGY!!!DO THAT,PUT HEMI EMBLEMS ON IT,REBEL FLAG ON THE ROOF,GROW A MULLET AND WHITE TRASH CHICKS WILL MELT LIKE CRACK ON A HEATED SPOON!!!!:mullet: :mullet: :mullet: :mulletsmile: :mulletsmile:
Dirty Harry
December 5th, 2006, 09:26 PM
ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!!!!PARTS DONATIONS ARE GLADLY ACCEPTED!!!IM TRYING TO BEAT THE DR.(AND HIS IS HALF BUILT!!!:ohyes: )
Parts?! I'm not buying you jack! I was thinking you build it and then I'll take photos of it and plug Asian Specialized (if you put a new clutch in my Evo :mullet: )
As for tax donations, I am all over that stuff. Harry Situations loses money ever year. :Big Grin:
jeeper89
December 5th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I JUST WANT TO 4 WHEEL STEER THE THROTTLE TRUGGY!!!DO THAT,PUT HEMI EMBLEMS ON IT,REBEL FLAG ON THE ROOF,GROW A MULLET AND WHITE TRASH CHICKS WILL MELT LIKE CRACK ON A HEATED SPOON!!!!:mullet: :mullet: :mullet: :mulletsmile: :mulletsmile:
they are selling some rebel flags down here in carson.. right of carson street on the east side
MIGHTYRAM97
December 5th, 2006, 11:14 PM
THE WHOLE THING WILL BE FOREIGN!!!!REMEMBER I HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHOP CALLED........ASIAN SPECIALIZED???CAN YOU SAY TAX WRITE OFF???:eek: OR ADVERTISING????:Big Grin:
:rolleyes: So, does this mean you're gonna run it on sake ???:24:
Sauce
December 6th, 2006, 10:15 AM
IF YOU ASK (AND ARE AS FAMOUS AS I AM!!!)ON PIRATE THEY WILL HOOK YOU UP LIKE ME!!!!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/SeriesRearSteerPlumb-WebShrunk.jpg
Do you have to run 2 pumps or will 1 modded pump turn both axles?
dane
December 6th, 2006, 11:35 AM
HERES THE REAR VALVE....
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=1158&cat=387&page=1
AND GET A CYLINDER FROM WWW.SURPLUSCENTER.COM AND BE SOMEBODY!!!!IF YOU ARENT GONNA USE THAT STEERING AXLE ILL TRADE YA THE NON STEER ONE OUT OF THE THROTTLE TRUGGY!!!!!COMPLETE WITH 3LINK BRACKET AND TOP LINK MOUNT!!!
I think I will also need a new pump and reservoir if I plan on doing this right. I will also be needing propane so I forsee this getting expensive pretty quickly. Oh well its only money, you can always make more!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 6th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Do you have to run 2 pumps or will 1 modded pump turn both axles?
SINGLE PUMP!!!!YOU JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO TURN BOTH ENDS AT THE SAME TIME IT WILL BE REALLY SLOW!!!!
dane
December 8th, 2006, 11:11 AM
This rear steer valve seems to be a good alternative to the polyperformance one. Anyone have any opinions??
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=628&osCsid=f331a59aeb20cca5712a846b7124857e
Dane
KOnrad
December 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM
SINGLE PUMP!!!!YOU JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO TURN BOTH ENDS AT THE SAME TIME IT WILL BE REALLY SLOW!!!!
Wouldn't it be benificial to do whatever is needed to make it steer quicker??? just curious..????:confused:
whitelightnin87
December 8th, 2006, 08:29 PM
sky manufacturing makes a birf eliminator kit for toy axles Toyota Mini Truck Backing Plate Eliminator .
i dont know how to post pics or links but the website is sky-manufacturing.com
Toyota Mini Truck Birfield Eliminator Kit.
Click to Enlarge
Part # Toy-BEK-001
Price- $399.00 SPECIAL!
Need a little extra axle beef? This is the kit. Running 37" + tires on a Toyota axle is pushing the limits of the stock parts. The Birfield eliminator gives you some room to work with. Tested on various competition buggies, run in the real world, used by us.
The axles are constructed of 4340 high nickel alloy, with a 760x u joint. You may upgrade to CTM's or Aussie Joints. Kit includes all new axles, spindles, seals, u-joints, and instructions.
Currently I run either 37 inch MTR's or 39.5 TSL's. Recently while on a snow run I backed up a dirt bank with my 5000 pound 4 Runner, running my 37's. This wall was about vertical. I turned my wheels to the right full lock, my stops are actually turned in as you can turn tighter with a u-joint, and tried to move forward. Apparently the ditch was deeper than it looked, and covered in 2 ft of snow. I was digging down, not moving foward. So like most people, I took the motor up to 4500rpm's and dropped the clutch in reverse, full steering lock. Last time I did this with a set of HD Birfields and Chromo inner shafts, I spit the inner cage out of the Birfield. This time I still had no movement, but nothing broke. 3 more tries and I was moving again, much too the amazement of the other Toyota owners in the club, with no broken parts.
MR.ROCKAPE
December 8th, 2006, 09:50 PM
sky manufacturing makes a birf eliminator kit for toy axles Toyota Mini Truck Backing Plate Eliminator .
i dont know how to post pics or links but the website is sky-manufacturing.com
Toyota Mini Truck Birfield Eliminator Kit.
Click to Enlarge
Part # Toy-BEK-001
Price- $399.00 SPECIAL!
Need a little extra axle beef? This is the kit. Running 37" + tires on a Toyota axle is pushing the limits of the stock parts. The Birfield eliminator gives you some room to work with. Tested on various competition buggies, run in the real world, used by us.
The axles are constructed of 4340 high nickel alloy, with a 760x u joint. You may upgrade to CTM's or Aussie Joints. Kit includes all new axles, spindles, seals, u-joints, and instructions.
Currently I run either 37 inch MTR's or 39.5 TSL's. Recently while on a snow run I backed up a dirt bank with my 5000 pound 4 Runner, running my 37's. This wall was about vertical. I turned my wheels to the right full lock, my stops are actually turned in as you can turn tighter with a u-joint, and tried to move forward. Apparently the ditch was deeper than it looked, and covered in 2 ft of snow. I was digging down, not moving foward. So like most people, I took the motor up to 4500rpm's and dropped the clutch in reverse, full steering lock. Last time I did this with a set of HD Birfields and Chromo inner shafts, I spit the inner cage out of the Birfield. This time I still had no movement, but nothing broke. 3 more tries and I was moving again, much too the amazement of the other Toyota owners in the club, with no broken parts.
AT THIS POINT IM GONNA RUN THE STOCK STUFF BREAK IT AND THEN UPGRADE!!!!IF I CANT GET SOMEONE TO COME WITH THE BRO DEAL ON EITHER LONGFIELDS OR SOMETHING ELSE......THEN THATS WHAT ILL RUN!!!!
whitelightnin87
December 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM
that is what i was going to run on the samurai but then i decided to use american axles (widetrac waggy 44s) so i can have a wider stance.
MR.ROCKAPE
December 8th, 2006, 11:09 PM
that is what i was going to run on the samurai but then i decided to use american axles (widetrac waggy 44s) so i can have a wider stance.
THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL PLAN TOO!!!!(BECAUSE YOU CAN GET DRIVERS AND PASS. SIDE DROP WAGGY AXLES!!!!)BUT, THEY ARE HEAVY COMPARED TO TOY AXLES!!!!!I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO WAGGY FRONT 44s AND A DISK BRAKE ISUZU REAR 44 FOR SALE!!!!!
dane
December 9th, 2006, 11:34 AM
THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL PLAN TOO!!!!(BECAUSE YOU CAN GET DRIVERS AND PASS. SIDE DROP WAGGY AXLES!!!!)BUT, THEY ARE HEAVY COMPARED TO TOY AXLES!!!!!I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO WAGGY FRONT 44s AND A DISK BRAKE ISUZU REAR 44 FOR SALE!!!!!
The hell with that, those waggy axles dont have anything over the toys. They are a little wider, but wheel spacers and proper backspacing can make the toys just as wide. I have a jackass mexican friend with waggies under his pos samurai and another buddy with toys under his. The guy with the toy axles is in the combo about $3 million less than the guy with waggies. I am a po ass mofo, that shit adds up quick!!!
Dane
dane
December 9th, 2006, 11:36 AM
AT THIS POINT IM GONNA RUN THE STOCK STUFF BREAK IT AND THEN UPGRADE!!!!IF I CANT GET SOMEONE TO COME WITH THE BRO DEAL ON EITHER LONGFIELDS OR SOMETHING ELSE......THEN THATS WHAT ILL RUN!!!!
You can call Bobby Long and see if he will fall for the "I got my ass handed to me by Mike Shaffer, wanna sponsor me?'' line. If you could please record the conversation for everyones amusement that would be an added bonus!!!
Dane
jeeper89
December 9th, 2006, 12:28 PM
The hell with that, those waggy axles dont have anything over the toys. They are a little wider, but wheel spacers and proper backspacing can make the toys just as wide. I have a jackass mexican friend with waggies under his pos samurai and another buddy with toys under his. The guy with the toy axles is in the combo about $3 million less than the guy with waggies. I am a po ass mofo, that shit adds up quick!!!
Dane
toy axles are pretty good if they are built up.. waggys are pretty good it you just add lockers and gearing. plus if you go waggy 44s you can get rid of the stupid seals in the front axle that always leak and get rid of the birfs.
dane
December 9th, 2006, 12:30 PM
toy axles are pretty good if they are built up.. waggys are pretty good it you just add lockers and gearing. plus if you go waggy 44s you can get rid of the stupid seals in the front axle that always leak and get rid of the birfs.
All you need for toys is gears and a welder, run some 30 spline longs and they are good to go!! I guess I really like the dropout 3rd (toyota, 9", rockwell, mogs) for ease of working on and the fact that you can find some twacker selling their arb'd 5.29 third for $200.00 so they can buy a bag for the weekend!!!
Dane
Dirty Harry
December 9th, 2006, 07:01 PM
30 spline Longfields have made birfield eliminator kits obsolete, I don't see any reason to run one. I would run anything from Sky on my rig anyway, that guy is a hack. Every Toyota product they offer is a cheap knock-off of another company's product.
MR.ROCKAPE
December 10th, 2006, 02:53 PM
A LITTLE PROGRESS TODAY...FINALLY GOT THE ENGINE/TRANS HERE!!!!SET THE AXLES ON THE FLOOR WITH A MOCK-UP SEAT AND THE ENGINE/TRANS,TOOK SOME MORE MEASUREMENTS AND DECIDED TO WIDEN THE CHASSIS IN THE MIDDLE SO I HAVE 36 INCHES INSIDE(SINCE MY SHOULDERS MIGHT COMPLAIN ABOUT 33 INCHES)!!!!
AND SINCE THE ENGINE/TRANS AS WELL AS THE SEAT ARE ALL GOING TO BE ABOUT 1INCH ABOVE THE LOWEST CHASSIS POINTIT SHOULD JUST ABOUT STAND ON ITS SIDE BEFORE ROLLING OVER....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/NEWBUGGY.gif
dane
December 10th, 2006, 03:07 PM
A LITTLE PROGRESS TODAY...FINALLY GOT THE ENGINE/TRANS HERE!!!!SET THE AXLES ON THE FLOOR WITH A MOCK-UP SEAT AND THE ENGINE/TRANS,TOOK SOME MORE MEASUREMENTS AND DECIDED TO WIDEN THE CHASSIS IN THE MIDDLE SO I HAVE 36 INCHES INSIDE(SINCE MY SHOULDERS MIGHT COMPLAIN ABOUT 33 INCHES)!!!!
AND SINCE THE ENGINE/TRANS AS WELL AS THE SEAT ARE ALL GOING TO BE ABOUT 1INCH ABOVE THE LOWEST CHASSIS POINTIT SHOULD JUST ABOUT STAND ON ITS SIDE BEFORE ROLLING OVER....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/NEWBUGGY.gif
Unless you plan on only competing I think its a good idea to give yourself a little comfort zone inside. In competitions I dont think that xtra couple of inches will hurt you and on the trail it will make it much nicer for a couple hours in the seat!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 10th, 2006, 04:39 PM
THIS SHOULD HAVE MORE LEG ROOM THAN MY CURRENT 2 SEATER!!!!HERE IT IS.....WIDER IN THE MIDDLE, A BIT MORE ROOM IN THE BELLY.....AND A FEW CHANGES THAT MAY CHANGE BEFORE I ACTUALLY BEND TOOB!!!!:Big Grin:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIDEBUGGY1.gif
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIDEBUGGY.gif
STILL THIS CHASSIS IS ONLY 44 INCHES TALL AND 101 INCHES LONG!!!!SO IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT......18 UNDER THE BELLY(POSS 20)+44 INCHES =62 INCHES TALL!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 10th, 2006, 04:53 PM
THE ONE COOL THING ABOUT USING THE CIVIC MOTOR/TRANS IS ITS ONLY 36 INCHES LONG 24 INCHES WIDE AND 23 INCHES TALL!!!!THE REAR DRIVELINE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE 28-31INCHES LONG,AND THE FRONT ABOUT 41-45 DEPENDING ON MY FINAL WHEELBASE!!!!ITS SET AT 100 NOW BUT I MAY CHANGE IT!!!!
dane
December 10th, 2006, 05:01 PM
THIS SHOULD HAVE MORE LEG ROOM THAN MY CURRENT 2 SEATER!!!!HERE IT IS.....WIDER IN THE MIDDLE, A BIT MORE ROOM IN THE BELLY.....AND A FEW CHANGES THAT MAY CHANGE BEFORE I ACTUALLY BEND TOOB!!!!:Big Grin:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIDEBUGGY1.gif
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIDEBUGGY.gif
STILL THIS CHASSIS IS ONLY 44 INCHES TALL AND 101 INCHES LONG!!!!SO IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT......18 UNDER THE BELLY(POSS 20)+44 INCHES =62 INCHES TALL!!!!
It sorta looks like the team purple rig!!! Not that its a bad thing, just and observation. I think 100" wb will be fine on 39's with that belly and low cog.
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 10th, 2006, 05:13 PM
It sorta looks like the team purple rig!!! Not that its a bad thing, just and observation. I think 100" wb will be fine on 39's with that belly and low cog.
Dane
ITS A FAILY SIMPLE CHASSIS(MINE,SINCE I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE TEAM PURPLE RIG...)NO TRICK BENDS JUST THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM TO GET THE JOB DONE!!!!BASICALLY I WANT A RIG THAT WILL RUN THE INSANE LINES MY CURRENT ONE WONT!!!!
UniBomber
December 10th, 2006, 05:51 PM
that'll be sick!!! can't wait to see it done...
christianwheeler
December 10th, 2006, 11:25 PM
this guy has 18" at the belly http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495084&goto=newpost
MR.ROCKAPE
December 10th, 2006, 11:42 PM
You can call Bobby Long and see if he will fall for the "I got my ass handed to me by Mike Shaffer, wanna sponsor me?'' line. If you could please record the conversation for everyones amusement that would be an added bonus!!!
Dane
DAMN........IS DANE REALLY DSI???
"I got my ass handed to me by Mike Shaffer, wanna sponsor me?'' I THINK THATS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM DSI ON PIRATE!!!!STILL KINDA A FUNNY, BUT THE CHAMP WAS LOOKIN LIKE THIS :eek: AFTER THE FIRST OBSTACLE!!!!
Sauce
December 11th, 2006, 02:21 PM
ONLY A COUPLE PICS..........
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0566.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0565.jpg
so, are you going to tell us what is wrong with the picture or what?
Sauce
December 11th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Hey, rockape PM'd me the project plans for his single seater.
http://www.funnypictures.dk/data/media/1/118.jpg
That a boy, go get em.
boy that was funny the first time you posted it, can a mod delete this shit, it is cluttering the good tech. Maybe we could do special tech for you SV, like how to change a u-joint:rofl: :kackepieksen:
KOnrad
December 11th, 2006, 03:29 PM
boy that was funny the first time you posted it, can a mod delete this shit, it is cluttering the good tech. Maybe we could do special tech for you SV, like how to change a u-joint:rofl: :kackepieksen:
Or we can just make a forum for SV and motoman 96!!! :) they'd do good together! eh Sauce?
throttleboy
December 11th, 2006, 05:20 PM
so, are you going to tell us what is wrong with the picture or what?
ITS A DRIVER SIDE DROP TOY AXLE OR A FLIPED FRONT FOR REAR STEER :wink: !!
dane
December 12th, 2006, 01:27 PM
DAMN........IS DANE REALLY DSI???
"I got my ass handed to me by Mike Shaffer, wanna sponsor me?'' I THINK THATS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM DSI ON PIRATE!!!!STILL KINDA A FUNNY, BUT THE CHAMP WAS LOOKIN LIKE THIS :eek: AFTER THE FIRST OBSTACLE!!!!
No, I am an asshole all on my own. I really think you should beg/borrow/steal 30 splines for that rear axle b4 you are laying in the dirt at MR changing a stock blown up birf.
Dane
UniBomber
December 12th, 2006, 05:04 PM
No, I am an asshole all on my own. I really think you should beg/borrow/steal 30 splines for that rear axle b4 you are laying in the dirt at MR changing a stock blown up birf.
Dane
ape's got 4 rigs :eek: (including the single-seater)!!! if one breaks, he just gets out another rig and starts wheeling!!! gotta leave the wrenching in the garage :rolleyes:
dane
December 12th, 2006, 05:05 PM
ape's got 4 rigs :eek: (including the single-seater)!!! if one breaks, he just gets out another rig and starts wheeling!!! gotta leave the wrenching on the garage :rolleyes:
Hopefully he has a winch on his trailer to get it back home to work on!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 12th, 2006, 06:34 PM
ape's got 4 rigs :eek: (including the single-seater)!!! if one breaks, he just gets out another rig and starts wheeling!!! gotta leave the wrenching in the garage :rolleyes:
MY FLEET OF 40+ TIRED RIDES PRETTY MUCH CAN COVER ALL TYPES OF WHEELING!!!!!AND EVERYONE HAS ITS OWN WINCH!!!!8K TO 12K AS NEEDED!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 12th, 2006, 07:12 PM
HERES SOME NO-PROGRESS PICS!!!!I SWEAR ILL HAVE THE CHASSIS STARTED BY THE WEEKEND!!!!:eek:
NO IM NOT GOING TO USE THAT SEAT!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0568.jpg
SETTING IT ALL OUT TO FIGURE IF MY TINY CHASSIS IS GOING TO WORK BEFORE I START TO BEND TOOB!!!
THE LITTLE POWER PLANT THAT COULD!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0570.jpg
edit:and of coarse its gonna have ac!!!(look at the compressor!!!):Big Grin:
Ford_KTM
December 12th, 2006, 07:23 PM
What motor is this out of....My buddy runs a hopped up one of these with a supercharger in his dune buggy. He loves it, and says it makes decent power....
MR.ROCKAPE
December 12th, 2006, 07:32 PM
What motor is this out of....My buddy runs a hopped up one of these with a supercharger in his dune buggy. He loves it, and says it makes decent power....
91 CIVIC....I HAVE SERVERAL TO CHOOSE FROM..... EVEN A TWIN CAMMER THAT WILL BOLT UP TO THAT TRANS, IF THIS ONE DOESNT MAKE ENOUGH POWER!!!!BUT THAT ENGINE AND TRANS BARELY WEIGH 320 LBS!!!!
dane
December 16th, 2006, 03:27 PM
91 CIVIC....I HAVE SERVERAL TO CHOOSE FROM..... EVEN A TWIN CAMMER THAT WILL BOLT UP TO THAT TRANS, IF THIS ONE DOESNT MAKE ENOUGH POWER!!!!BUT THAT ENGINE AND TRANS BARELY WEIGH 320 LBS!!!!
I have a sick ass Titanium exhaust off of a Yamaha YZF-R1 that has been modified to flow enough for a vehicle that would be pimp as shit on this buggy, let me know if you want it, I have two and would donate one to the cause based soley on its bling factor!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 16th, 2006, 03:31 PM
I have a sick ass Titanium exhaust off of a Yamaha YZF-R1 that has been modified to flow enough for a vehicle that would be pimp as shit on this buggy, let me know if you want it, I have two and would donate one to the cause based soley on its bling factor!!
Dane
HOW BIG IS THE INLET TUBE???BRING THE FREE BLING!!!I WAS JUST GONNA PUT ONE OF THOSE 5 INCH TIPS ON IT FOR THE AUTHENTIC HONDA RACER-BOY SIGNATURE SOUND,BUT IF YOU GOT SOMETHING BETTER IM NOT PROUD!!!!
dane
December 16th, 2006, 03:52 PM
HOW BIG IS THE INLET TUBE???BRING THE FREE BLING!!!I WAS JUST GONNA PUT ONE OF THOSE 5 INCH TIPS ON IT FOR THE AUTHENTIC HONDA RACER-BOY SIGNATURE SOUND,BUT IF YOU GOT SOMETHING BETTER IM NOT PROUD!!!!
The inlet is probably 2 and a half inches. You can make it fit whatever, I was gonna weld a flange on it and run 2 on the runner, but I just never got around to it. It is 100 times more pimpin than a stupid ass fart can, as a side note its super cool to cut titianium with a chopsaw!!!
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 16th, 2006, 04:49 PM
The inlet is probably 2 and a half inches. You can make it fit whatever, I was gonna weld a flange on it and run 2 on the runner, but I just never got around to it. It is 100 times more pimpin than a stupid ass fart can, as a side note its super cool to cut titianium with a chopsaw!!!
Dane
SWEET!!!NEXT TIME YOU ARE UP HERE VISITING THE MOOSEKNUCKLE OR LUMPYS NEW YEARS PARTY,THEN ILL GET IT FROM YA!!!!!BRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!! !!!!!
dane
December 16th, 2006, 05:01 PM
here is a pic so you can think of how to make it work, and I have two if you want to be twice as cool!!
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/news/2003/07/30/images/exhaust2.gif
Dane
MR.ROCKAPE
December 16th, 2006, 05:47 PM
here is a pic so you can think of how to make it work, and I have two if you want to be twice as cool!!
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/news/2003/07/30/images/exhaust2.gif
Dane
I WONDER HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO MOUNT THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND PLUMB THEM IN...........
dane
December 16th, 2006, 05:53 PM
If you ran a "Y" pipe off of the manifold you could run them side by side and it would be sick as hell, especially if you could have them stick out like old skool vw stingers!!
Dane
dane
December 16th, 2006, 05:58 PM
I will bring both of mine so you can figure out how you would like to run them, they are seriously pimp as hell and who doesnt like Ti.
Dane
renojeepster
December 17th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Are the Knuckles going to mount upside down on that housing? If so what will the camber angle be compared to stock?
MR.ROCKAPE
December 17th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Are the Knuckles going to mount upside down on that housing? If so what will the camber angle be compared to stock?
The knuckles were cut and rotated about 180 degrees they will be swapped left to right, camber will be stock....the caster angle was rotated for rear pinion clearance.It is now a drivers side drop toy front housing(could be used in that application if someone needed one) to use a np231 t-case or a ford t-case.The center chunk is normal ,not upside down.Since a honda engine spins the opposite direction(counter clockwise)of everthing else in the world,there is no need or want to run the 3rd members upside down.I had this idea a while back and it is the main reason I think I can build a moon-type buggy on the cheap!!!!Ask anyone how much those way offset bling axles cost!!!!I have heard $8-10k each!!!!:eek:
UniBomber
December 17th, 2006, 12:07 PM
The knuckles were cut and rotated about 180 degrees they will be swapped left to right, camber will be stock....the caster angle was rotated for rear pinion clearance.It is now a drivers side drop toy front housing(could be used in that application if someone needed one) to use a np231 t-case or a ford t-case.The center chunk is normal ,not upside down.Since a honda engine spins the opposite direction(counter clockwise)of everthing else in the world,there is no need or want to run the 3rd members upside down.I had this idea a while back and it is the main reason I think I can build a moon-type buggy on the cheap!!!!Ask anyone how much those way offset bling axles cost!!!!I have heard $8-10k each!!!!:eek:
the way this buildup is going.......i might have to steal some of the ideas you have :eek:. because of the relative simplicity and more "bang for the buck", this makes me want something of this nature......only with a 2 seat chassis and a nissan motor :mullet:.....hmmmmmm, something to think about :thgrinpimp:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 17th, 2006, 07:12 PM
the way this buildup is going.......i might have to steal some of the ideas you have :eek:. because of the relative simplicity and more "bang for the buck", this makes me want something of this nature......only with a 2 seat chassis and a nissan motor :mullet:.....hmmmmmm, something to think about :thgrinpimp:
IF YOU DID IT WITH A PISSAN THE CENTER SECTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE RUN UPSIDE DOWN FOR THE WHEELS TO GO FORWARD!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 17th, 2006, 09:12 PM
NO PROGRESS YET!!!!:frown: MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE NEW BABY AS WELL AS A CUSTOMER PROJECT AND TRYING TO GET THE TRUGGY DONE ENOUGH FOR DH TO MAKE ME EVEN MORE FAMOUS THAN I AM NOW!!!!!:Big Grin: BE PATIENT..... AS SOON AS I GET ROLLING I THINK I COULD HAVE THIS CHASSIS IN ONE PIECE AND ALL TACKED TOGETHER IN A COUPLE OF 12-16 HOUR DAYS!!!AS SOON AS THE ENGINE/TRANS IS HUNG,IT WILL BE A ROLLER SOON AFTER!!!!:pray:
ITS KILLING ME NOT TO HAVE TIME TO GET THIS REALLY STARTED!!!!THE CHASSIS IS MY FAVORITE PART TO DO!!!!I MAY CLOSE THE SHOP THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS AND THEN I MIGHT HAVE A FEW DAYS TO DEDICATE TO THIS!!!
UniBomber
December 17th, 2006, 09:38 PM
IF YOU DID IT WITH A PISSAN THE CENTER SECTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE RUN UPSIDE DOWN FOR THE WHEELS TO GO FORWARD!!!!
is flipping the centers actually doable??? seems like the pinion gear would be starved of oil with the centers upside down??? sorry for cluttering your thread with questions :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
December 17th, 2006, 09:47 PM
is flipping the centers actually doable??? seems like the pinion gear would be starved of oil with the centers upside down??? sorry for cluttering your thread with questions :Big Grin:
ITS EASILY DOABLE!!!!I DONT THINK I WOULD WORRY ALOT ABOUT OILING IN THAT SITUATION UNLESS YOU WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR HIGH SPEED RUNS!!!THE ONLY THING I WOULD WORRY ABOUT WITH RUNNING TOY CENTER UPSIDE DOWN IS RING AND PINION STRENGTH!!!SINCE THE GEARS ARENT DESIGNED TO BE RUN CONSTANLY IN REVERSE AS WELL AS THE EXTREME LOADS.....THEY MAY BE THE WEAK POINT!!!NOW YOU SEE WHY THE HONDA/TRANS IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THIS BUILD!!!!IF I WAS GONNA RUN SOMETHING ELSE THAN A HONDA ENGINE ,THEN I WOULD FLIP DANA 60s AND AT LEAST HAVE THE STRENGTH!!!!(BUT YOU LOSE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING LIGHT!!!!)
renojeepster
December 17th, 2006, 10:48 PM
You can have oiling issues with them mounted upside down. I run a high pinion from an FJ-80 in a pickup housing which is missing an oil channel for the pinion, same problem. I have had no problems in 6 yrs by overfilling the diff.
I thought you would have to cut and rotate the ends of the housing. This thing sounds like it will work, can't wait to see some progress.
Congrats on the new addition!
Sauce
December 18th, 2006, 12:50 PM
Saw this on pirate...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536681
MR.ROCKAPE
December 18th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Saw this on pirate...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536681
STOLEN..........SAME ENGINE BUT A FIVE SPEED!!!!THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING!!!!NOTICE THE SHIFT RODS IN THE BOTTOM FRONT OF THE ONE PIC........THE RODS HAS TO GO IN AND OUT AS WELL AS TWIST TO SHIFT ALL THE GEARS!!!!AND A CLUTCH CABLE???I BET MINE WILL BE EASIER TO BUILD!!!!!CENTERED REAR DIFF???:rolleyes:
throttleboy
December 19th, 2006, 06:13 AM
YOU BETTER HURRY UP OR SOME ONES GONNA SAY YOU STOLE THIER DESIGN :rolleyes: !!!
L.D.
December 19th, 2006, 07:02 AM
YOU BETTER HURRY UP OR SOME ONES GONNA SAY YOU STOLE THIER DESIGN :rolleyes: !!!
BUILT BY STV IN BFE:Big Grin:
dane
December 19th, 2006, 08:03 PM
STOLEN..........SAME ENGINE BUT A FIVE SPEED!!!!THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING!!!!NOTICE THE SHIFT RODS IN THE BOTTOM FRONT OF THE ONE PIC........THE RODS HAS TO GO IN AND OUT AS WELL AS TWIST TO SHIFT ALL THE GEARS!!!!AND A CLUTCH CABLE???I BET MINE WILL BE EASIER TO BUILD!!!!!CENTERED REAR DIFF???:rolleyes:
And no titanium exhaust, who the hell would cheap out on the bling bling!!??
Dane
dane
December 27th, 2006, 04:39 PM
I know its christmas an all, but any updates??
Dane
throttleboy
December 27th, 2006, 05:15 PM
I know its christmas an all, but any updates??
Dane
THIS NIGGAS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE NOW........NO TIME FOR HIS OWN JUNK :Big Grin: !!
MR.ROCKAPE
December 27th, 2006, 10:35 PM
I know its christmas an all, but any updates??
Dane
NO UPDATES.....I HAVE BEEN OUT TRYING TO GET THE RIG FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE "THROTTLE TRUGGY" READY FOR MR.ROCKAPE TO MAKE IT FAMOUS!!!!
ON FRIDAY B!TCHES!!!!MOONROCKS..........:cool:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 12:47 PM
UPDATE!!!
STARTED YESTERDAY AT 10 AM........IT IS SITTING AT RIDE HEIGHT(18 INCHES UNDER THE BELLY THE TIRES ARE 39 INCH KRAWLERS)THE TOP OF THE CAGE IS 5'4" TALL:eek: THE CHASSIS IS ABOUT 45 INCHES FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE BELLY TO THE TOP OF THE CAGE!!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0607.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0609-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0613-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0614.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0618.jpg
THE CHASSIS IS EXACTLY 100 INCHES LONG 39 INCHES WIDE!!!!I AM HOPING TO GET THE MAIN TUBES FOR THE BACK SECTION DONE TODAY!!!THERE IS ONLY ABOUT 6-8 MORE BENDS LEFT TO DO IN THIS CHASSIS!!!SHOCK HOOPS FRONT AND REAR (THAT I CANT DO UNTIL I GET HEIMS AND LINK MATERIAL)I MAY BEND THE TUBE BEHIND THE DRIVERS SEAT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE ABILITY TO TILT THE SEAT BACK!!!
AND THE BEST PART IS.......I HAVE EIGHT HOURS INTO IT SO FAR!!!AND I DID IT ON THE LAST DAY OF 2006 SO ITS STILL MY 2006 BUILD!!!!:rolleyes:
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF TIES INS AND A FEW CROSSMEMBERS THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDED,I WILL POSITION THE ENGINE IN IT AFTER I GET THE REAR SECTION CLOSER TO DONE!!!!I HOPE TO HAVE THE ENGINE MOUNTED BY THE END OF NEXT WEEKEND AND START ON THE LINKS SOON AFTER THAT!!!!STAY TUNED BECAUSE I THINK THIS COULD PICK UP THE PACE HERE REAL SOON!!!!
Sierra Valley
January 1st, 2007, 01:37 PM
Looks good so far Ape!
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 08:57 PM
ONLY SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS ON IT TODAY........
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0624.jpg
I JUST NEED TO BRING HOME THE ENGINE HOIST SO I CAN GET AFTER THAT THIS WEEK!!!!
UniBomber
January 1st, 2007, 09:11 PM
ONLY SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS ON IT TODAY........
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0624.jpg
I JUST NEED TO BRING HOME THE ENGINE HOIST SO I CAN GET AFTER THAT THIS WEEK!!!!
goddamn that looks sick!!! :hardon: nice krawlers......goodbye 5k budget, hello bling :thbling:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 09:17 PM
goddamn that looks sick!!! :boner: nice krawlers......goodbye 5k budget, hello bling :thbling:
THE KRAWLERS ARE FOR PIC PURPOSES ONLY(THEY ARE FOR THE TWO SEATER,EVEN THOUGH IT ALREADY HAS SOME ON IT)!!!!I THINK TOY AXLES WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THOSE EVEN WITH LONGS!!!!IM THINKING 37 INCH BLUE LABEL KRAWLERS OR ????WHAT EVER I CAN FIND FOR A GOOD PRICE!!!(37 MTRS???)ALL I THINK I NEED TO BUY IS SOME HYDRO STEERING STUFF, A FUEL CELL, REAL SEAT,HEIMS AND LINK MATERIAL!!!!!
I BET I COULD FIT TWO OF THESE ON MY 18 FT CAR TRAILER!!!ITS THAT SMALL!!!!
UniBomber
January 1st, 2007, 09:21 PM
THE KRAWLERS ARE FOR PIC PURPOSES ONLY(THEY ARE FOR THE TWO SEATER,EVEN THOUGH IT ALREADY HAS SOME ON IT)!!!!I THINK TOY AXLES WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THOSE EVEN WITH LONGS!!!!IM THINKING 37 INCH BLUE LABEL KRAWLERS OR ????WHAT EVER I CAN FIND FOR A GOOD PRICE!!!(37 MTRS???)ALL I THINK I NEED TO BUY IS SOME HYDRO STEERING STUFF, A FUEL CELL, REAL SEAT,HEIMS AND LINK MATERIAL!!!!!
I BET I COULD FIT TWO OF THESE ON MY 18 FT CAR TRAILER!!!ITS THAT SMALL!!!!
get two more red label 39.5s and call it good. there are a bunch of 3000# rigs out there with bobbys in the axles and no breakage. plus, with that light of a buggy, don't you want stickies???
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 09:23 PM
THE ONLY REAL BENDING LEFT IS THE SHOCK HOOPS AND THE BEHIND THE SEAT BAR.
IT LOOKS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE MY SECOND RENDERING.......BEND TECH PRO KICKS ASS!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIDEBUGGY.gif
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 09:26 PM
get two more red label 39.5s and call it good. there are a bunch of 3000# rigs out there with bobbys in the axles and no breakage. plus, with that light of a buggy, don't you want stickies???
I HAVE THE SET+1 (5 TIRES)AS WELL AS THE SET ON MY TWO SEATER NOW!!!BUT,THIS KINDA KILLS MY BUDGET BY A BUNCH!!!!I MAY RUN THEM.....BUT NOT RIGHT AWAY!!!!THOSE TIRES COST ME 40% OF MY SINGLE SEAT PROJECTED BUDGET!!!!!
UniBomber
January 1st, 2007, 09:32 PM
I HAVE THE SET+1 (5 TIRES)AS WELL AS THE SET ON MY TWO SEATER NOW!!!BUT,THIS KINDA KILLS MY BUDGET BY A BUNCH!!!!I MAY RUN THEM.....BUT NOT RIGHT AWAY!!!!THOSE TIRES COST ME 40% OF MY SINGLE SEAT PROJECTED BUDGET!!!!!
what do the red labels run??? $400+??? doesn't really matter....they're ungodfully expensive none the less :eek:
are you gonna do anything such as a driveline disconnect for front/rear digs??? that be :thbling: :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 1st, 2007, 09:38 PM
what do the red labels run??? $400+??? doesn't really matter....they're ungodfully expensive none the less :eek:
are you gonna do anything such as a driveline disconnect for front/rear digs??? that be :thbling: :Big Grin:
I THINK WITH FOUR WHEEL STEERING A DRIVELINE DISCONNECT MAY BE MORE THAN I NEED!!!!NOT THAT I HAVENT LOOKED INTO IT!!!!AND AFTER I AM HAPPY WITH ITS DURABILITY, IT MIGHT SEE THE SLIGHTLY USED SET OF RED LABELS CURRENTLY GRACING MY BUGGY!!!!
jeeper89
January 1st, 2007, 09:46 PM
its lookin pretty good:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 2nd, 2007, 08:59 PM
A SHOT FROM THE BACK!!!TOMORROW I WILL START MOUNTING THE ENGINE!!!!!MADE THE SLEEVES FOR THE POLY BUSHINGS TONIGHT!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0625.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
January 3rd, 2007, 09:37 PM
IN A EFFORT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BUILD EASIER ,I WENT SEARCHING FOR A PLACE TO SUPPLY ME WITH BRACKETS AND TABS........
http://ballisticfabrication.3dcartstores.com/
GOOD LOOKING BRACKETS WITH GOOD PRICES TO BOOT!!!!:Big Grin:
L.D.
January 4th, 2007, 07:35 AM
SO, IF YOU JUST WANTED A GOCART WITH A HONDA MOTOR, WHY NOT JUST FIND AN ODESSY. HELL, IT'S EVEN A ONE SEATER, DONE. LOOK AT FIBERCRAFT ON MILL FOR TABS AND BRACKETS. STILL IT'S A COOL LOOKIN GOCART.
BIG BLUE
January 4th, 2007, 09:53 AM
That is looking real sweet. I love the invisible rims. Helps to shave weight. You can also check out Blue Torch Fabe or MORE for more brackets and what not. Blue torch has got some cool bling stuff....(That was my shot at pretending to know anything cause we all know the broko lacks a lot of bling)
Cant wait to see it on the trail. Guess we will have to have a huge crawling party in the spring for its unvailing....gonna have your hands full though with the truggy and this one.....gonna be fighting over garage space!:Big Grin:
dane
January 4th, 2007, 03:14 PM
For misc tabs at excellent prices and good customer service try www.aa-mfg.com they have all of the generic stuff you need, and for wheeling specific I wont go anywhere but Dan at BTF, they give back to the community and offer nice stuff at reasonable prices.
Dane
Sauce
January 4th, 2007, 09:09 PM
try ruff stuff specialties or copperheadfab for some supa cheap tabs :D
MR.ROCKAPE
January 4th, 2007, 09:43 PM
I LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE PLACES BEFORE.... BUT LOOK AT BALLISTICS UPPER LINK MOUNTS AS WELL AS THEIR TRACK BAR BRACKETS.....NO ONE HAS PRICES LIKE THAT FOR SWEET LOOKING BRACKETS!!!!PLUS THEIR PRICES ON HEIMS ARE REALLY GOOD TOO!!!!I THINK THEY WILL BE GETTING $500 OF MY DOLLAZ SOON!!!!:cool:
CHECK OUT THEIR ROCKWELL TOWER TOO!!!!I THINK THEY COPIED ME!!!!BUT FOR THAT PRICE I WOULD JUST BUY ONE!!!!
whitelightnin87
January 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM
are you running longs or that birfield elim kit from sky mfg? just curious if one of my ideas may have had a little influence on the build!
MR.ROCKAPE
January 7th, 2007, 01:18 AM
GOT SOME MORE DONE TODAY.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0626.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0635.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0634.jpg
GOT TWO OF THE MOTOR MOUNTS DONE TODAY,HAD TO ADD A FEW MORE TUBES TO GET IT DONE THOUGH.
AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE AXLES.....I HAVENT DONE ANYTHING WITH THEM YET!!!!(I WILL LIKELY WHEEL IT BEFORE I UPGRADE IT!!!!)
THIS SHOULD BE A ROLLER BY THE END OF THE MONTH!!!I WILL ORDER ALL MY HEIMS,TABS AND BRACKETS ON MONDAY!!!!:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 7th, 2007, 08:18 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0636.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0637.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0640.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0641.jpg
I hate making mounts.....GOT ALL BUT ONE DONE!!!!AND THE FINAL ONE IS REALLY JUST A LIMIT TYPE(DOESNT SUPPORT THE ENGINE WEIGHT)IT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I GET A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF DONE!!!!
ORDERING MORE PARTS TOMORROW!!!!:Big Grin: AFTER TODAY I HAVE 31 HOURS IN THIS!!!(INCLUDING THE MOD OF THE REAR AXLE HOUSING).I WILL BE ADDING ALOT OF STRAIGHT TUBE TIE INS THIS WEEK WHILE I WAIT FOR THE NEXT GO-ROUND OF PARTS!!!!THEN IT WILL BE LINK AND AXLE TIME!!!!:pray:
toywelder
January 8th, 2007, 04:08 PM
looks nice and yes i have more done then you
have but shit this is no race on the build :Big Grin:
i scraped the 5 speed (broke the ring gear)
but i scoard a auto tranny $50 bucks :cool: now i am locking
it up then will mount the motor/tranny
and APE have you made your drive adpt. yet ??
i have (for the 5 speed:mad: ) but hoping they still
work in the auto
MR.ROCKAPE
January 8th, 2007, 08:25 PM
WAIT.....YOU HAD A HEAD START!!!BUT,I THINK ILL CATCH UP REAL QUICK HERE SOON!!!!!:Big Grin:
toywelder
January 9th, 2007, 05:59 AM
you will pass me
i have 2 other trucks that can in to the shop
money comes first,thats the only way i can
build my junk is to build other trucks LOL
toywelder
January 20th, 2007, 03:04 PM
ok i snaped some shots 2day of the
jack shafts/ drive shafts and will send
them this way. picked up my tires 2day :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 20th, 2007, 04:12 PM
ok i snaped some shots 2day of the
jack shafts/ drive shafts and will send
them this way. picked up my tires 2day :Big Grin:
What tires are ya gonna run and what size???
toywelder
January 20th, 2007, 05:05 PM
i picked up some TSLs 39.5x15x16.5
a guy made about 12 trips in a mud
truck with them and went with dif. tires
$700 bucks,still has sharp edges :Big Grin:
on H1 wheels (wheels did not come with tires)
MR.ROCKAPE
January 21st, 2007, 04:39 PM
MY BUILD WILL PICK UP THE PACE THIS WEEK SINCE ALL OF MY BLING BRACKETS AND TABS(THANKS, BALLISTIC FAB!!!!) SHOULD BE HERE,HARNESS WILL BE DONE THIS WEEK(MIGHT EVEN HEAR IT RUN!!!!)!!!SHOULD BE A ROLLER IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO!!!!:eek:
3 LINK PANHARD FRONT AND REAR WITH 14-INCH TONY K AIRSHOCKS ALL AROUND!!!!!
CMEROLL
January 22nd, 2007, 10:15 PM
Here are the pics of Toywelder's drive shaft's......
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3865.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3864.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3863.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3866.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3862.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3861.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3868.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3869.jpg
All I have for now....
MR.ROCKAPE
January 22nd, 2007, 10:32 PM
Thats kinda what I figured...but minus the tube.
toywelder
January 23rd, 2007, 06:00 AM
i had to get the flange away from the case
MR.ROCKAPE
January 23rd, 2007, 08:01 PM
i had to get the flange away from the case
THATS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ONE OF THESE.....
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/The_Rock_Gods/100_0566.jpg
IF YOU DID HAVE A CUSTOM ONE-OFF DRIVERS SIDE DROP TOYOTA FRONT AXLE YOU TOO WOULDNT HAVE TO SPACE OUT THE DRIVELINE AND FIGHT WITH THE EXTREME U-JOINT ANGLES!!!!!
toywelder
January 23rd, 2007, 08:46 PM
no no no
you got it all wrong,its where the jack shaft
comes out of the tranny is to close and
you will need to push it away from the case
it has nothing to do with ujoints !!
i am putting the motor in at an angle so the
rear drive shaft is just fine :Big Grin:
and if you read my first post on pirate
about 7-8 months ago (not sure) you would
see that i wanted to do rear steer BUT
i am to cheap and did not want to spend
a nuther $600 bucks on rear bobbys allso !!!
so $1200 bucks on just the axels just was
not in the buget on this one so you can
have all the fame for the rear steer it's
all you LOL :cool:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 23rd, 2007, 08:50 PM
no no no
you got it all wrong,its where the jack shaft
comes out of the tranny is to close and
you will need to push it away from the case
it has nothing to do with ujoints !!
i am putting the motor in at an angle so the
rear drive shaft is just fine :Big Grin:
and if you read my first post on pirate
about 7-8 months ago (not sure) you would
see that i wanted to do rear steer BUT
i am to cheap and did not want to spend
a nuther $600 bucks on rear bobbys allso !!!
so $1200 bucks on just the axels just was
not in the buget on this one so you can
have all the fame for the rear steer it's
all you LOL :cool:
THATS COOL........GUESS I JUST FIGURED WRONG!!!
Ford_KTM
January 25th, 2007, 02:32 PM
Just curious, how are you doing on the whole money aspect. I know shit adds up in a hurry and was wondering what you were sitting at. I was at about 7000 when I had all the drivetrain done in my YJ, and from there I went to 11000 in a hurry.
jeeper89
January 25th, 2007, 02:44 PM
Just curious, how are you doing on the whole money aspect. I know shit adds up in a hurry and was wondering what you were sitting at. I was at about 7000 when I had all the drivetrain done in my YJ, and from there I went to 11000 in a hurry.
where are all the updates on your rig???
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 12:32 AM
COUPLE UPDATES!!!I SPENT ABOUT 6.5 HOURS ON IT TODAY JUST DOING THE TIE-INS FOR STRENGTH....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0646.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0648.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0650.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0655.jpg
I HAVE ADDED A FEW MORE BENDS HERE AND THERE MAINLY TO ADD ROOM TO THE DRIVERS COMPARTMENT!!!!
AS FOR $$$ IM STILL WELL WITH-IN MY PROJECTED BUDGET!!!!
MOTOR /TRANS-$200 INCL THE COOLING SYSTEM(FAN,RADIATOR,TRANS COOLER)AS WELL AS THE HARNESS!!!
TUBE-$1000(THIS NOW INCLUDES LINK MATERIAL)
AXLES $200
(16) 3/4 HEIMS,BUNGS,MOST IF NOT ALL PRE-FAB AXLE BRACKETS$680(BALLISTIC FAB...)
4 14 INCH TONY K AIR SHOCKS $850
SUMMIT 3 GAL CELL,EXTERNAL FUEL PUMP,HOSES AND FITTINGS $300
SPENT SO FAR.....$3230 BUT IT WILL BE A ROLLER FOR THIS AMOUNT.
STILL NEED TO PURCHASE.....
2 HYDRO RAMS
ELECTRIC PUMP FOR REAR STEER
BRAKE MASTER/LINES AND HOSES
ALUMINUM SHEET FOR FLOOR AND ROOF PANELS
WHEELS/TIRES(MAY END UP USED NON BEADLOCKS)MY EXTRA SET OF 39INCH(RED LABEL) KRAWLERS WOULD BLOW MY BUDGET FOR SURE!!!!
SOME OF THE BUDGET WILL BE SAVED SINCE I ALREADY HAVE THE ORBITAL VALVE AND SAGINAW PUMP,HOSES I CAN MAKE FOR FREE FROM MY LAST EMPLOYER.
wix
January 28th, 2007, 12:46 AM
for the love of god clean that shop, its a wonder how you get anything done..:mullet:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 12:50 AM
for the love of god clean that shop, its a wonder how you get anything done..:mullet:
ITS A GOOD THING I HAVENT TRIPPED OR LOST ANYTHING IMPORTANT!!!!SOON IT WILL ROLL AND THEN ILL GET IT OUTSIDE AND PICK-UP AND CLEAN THE SHOP!!!!!
THIS SEASONS PROJECT #2 SHOULD BE STARTING HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT 8-12 WEEKS!!!!I HOPE THE LO-BUDGET PIMPIN WILL BE MOVING UNDER ITS OWN POWER BY THEN!!!!PROBABLY NOT DONE BUT DRIVEABLE!!!!:eek:
Ford_KTM
January 28th, 2007, 02:25 AM
ITS A GOOD THING I HAVENT TRIPPED OR LOST ANYTHING IMPORTANT!!!!SOON IT WILL ROLL AND THEN ILL GET IT OUTSIDE AND PICK-UP AND CLEAN THE SHOP!!!!!
THIS SEASONS PROJECT #2 SHOULD BE STARTING HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT 8-12 WEEKS!!!!I HOPE THE LO-BUDGET PIMPIN WILL BE MOVING UNDER ITS OWN POWER BY THEN!!!!PROBABLY NOT DONE BUT DRIVEABLE!!!!:eek:
Its looking great man....Your doing an awsome job on the budget then....But like i said, The little shit gets ya...gauges and what not...Keep it up man.....
UniBomber
January 28th, 2007, 11:06 AM
ITS A GOOD THING I HAVENT TRIPPED OR LOST ANYTHING IMPORTANT!!!!SOON IT WILL ROLL AND THEN ILL GET IT OUTSIDE AND PICK-UP AND CLEAN THE SHOP!!!!!
THIS SEASONS PROJECT #2 SHOULD BE STARTING HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT 8-12 WEEKS!!!!I HOPE THE LO-BUDGET PIMPIN WILL BE MOVING UNDER ITS OWN POWER BY THEN!!!!PROBABLY NOT DONE BUT DRIVEABLE!!!!:eek:
project #2??? :eek: are you ever gonna get to wheel the shit you build??? :Big Grin:
wix
January 28th, 2007, 12:51 PM
project #2??? :eek: are you ever gonna get to wheel the shit you build??? :Big Grin:
mabe building the shit is more fun :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 01:05 PM
project #2??? :eek: are you ever gonna get to wheel the shit you build??? :Big Grin:
I DONT WHEEL....I WORK AND BUILD STUFF!!!!SINCE I AM SPORTING A FEW RIGS THESE DAYS I WONDER IF THEY ALL WILL GET WHEELED AT LEAST ONCE EACH THIS SUMMER!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Its looking great man....Your doing an awsome job on the budget then....But like i said, The little shit gets ya...gauges and what not...Keep it up man.....
GAUGES???MAYBE A TEMP GAUGE AND AN OIL LIGHT!!!THE FACTORY HONDA PCM HAS A REV LIMITER,SO NO NEED FOR A TACH.....
I KNOW THERE IS GONNA BE SOME POP UP EXPENSES!!!MY LAST BUGGY COST ME IN PARTS ONLY ABOUT 13K TO BUILD!!!!(AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH 10K BUDGET)I AM HOPING THAT I CAN AT LEAST PUT REAR LONGFIELDS IN AND NOT BE TOO MUCH OVER MY GOAL!!!!!
toywelder
January 28th, 2007, 04:51 PM
lookin good !!
i got my motor mounted this weekend and started reworking the rear lower links (to short the rear axel walked) the where 28'' now they will be 48'' long,started building my steering col.(double ended fork truck ram on the free)
wish i could get the krawler tires but i am stuck on the H1 wheels i love'em
running 3 PSI is nice :Big Grin: got all my tranny probs. worked out (thanks APE ) :cool:
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 10:35 PM
UPDATE!!! GOT MY HARNESS BACK TODAY(ALREADY REWORKED FOR MUTI-POINT!!!)!!!!RECIEVED ALL THE PARTS FROM THE SAME GUY TO CONVERT IT TO MULTI-POINT FI INSTEAD OF DUAL POINT(20+EXTRA HORSEPOWER TO BOOT!!!!)AS SOON AS I GET FUEL FOR IT.....IT WILL RUN!!!!!ILL GET SOME PICS OF THE ULTRA CLEAN JOB HE DID!!!(EVERYTHING FITS IN A SUMMIT BATTERY BOX!!!!PCM,BOTH FUSE PANELS,MAIN RELAY ,FAN RELAY AND HAS A MAIN LOOM THAT COMES OUT TO GO TO THE ENGINE!!!!SWEET JOB!!!)NOW IM ON A MISSION SINCE THE MAIN VARIABLE IS OUT OF THE WAY!!!COOLING SYSTEM,TRANS COOLER,ENGINE MANAGEMENT....... DONE!!!!HE EVEN LEFT THE ORIGINAL IGNITION SWITCH!!!!!!(WITH AN EXTENDED HARNESS!!!)
MR.ROCKAPE
January 28th, 2007, 11:15 PM
HERES A FEW!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0659.jpg
MMMM-MULTI-POINT!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0658.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0661.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
January 30th, 2007, 11:08 PM
WORKED ON IT TONIGHT,STARTED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE MOUNTED AND FOUND OUT THAT IT IS GONNA BE A TIGHT FIT!!!!3 GALLON GAS TANK,ENGINE CONTROLS,BATTERY RADIATOR AND AN EXTERNAL COOLER FOR THE STEERING!!!!ADD TO THIS HYDRO HOSES LINKS SHOCKS AND BRAKE LINES!!!!!I KNEW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATIVE TO MAKE IT ALL FIT BUT NOW THAT I HAVE ALL THE PARTS SITTING THERE!!!!(AND I DONT WANT ANY OF THE PARTS LISTED ABOVE ANY HIGHER THAN THE TUBE DIRECTLY BEHIND MY SHOULDERS!!!!):Big Grin:
toywelder
January 31st, 2007, 06:12 AM
i like the battery box idea
makes it a lot cleaner
CMEROLL
February 7th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Some more build pics.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3884.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3886.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3887.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3889.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3891.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3892.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3893.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3894.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3895.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/CMEROLL/IMG_3896.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
February 7th, 2007, 09:55 PM
DAMN THOSE MOTOR MOUNTS ARE BEEFY!!!!ANY REASON HE PLATED AROUND THE FRONT???
toywelder
February 8th, 2007, 05:34 AM
i just wanted a good foot well :Big Grin:
jeeper89
February 10th, 2007, 01:36 PM
ROCKAPE any updates????
MR.ROCKAPE
February 10th, 2007, 11:38 PM
ROCKAPE any updates????
I HAVE ADDED A FEW MORE TUBES,BUT TOMORROW I AM HOPING TO HAVE ONE END OF THE SUSPENSION MOCKED UP!!!!THE REAR ,BECAUSE IT PRETTY MUCH IS THE F-ED ONE TO DO!!!!FITTING IT ALL WITH THE ENGINE IN THE BACK IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE!!!!THE FRONT SHOULD BE EASIER!!!!!:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
February 15th, 2007, 10:37 PM
FINALLY!!!!
NOW YOU CAN SEE THE ADDED TUBES AS WELL AS THE REAR SUSPENSION!!!!THE ONLY THING THAT BLOWS IS THAT I HAVE TO MOVE THE ENGINE TWO INCHES OVER TO THE DRIVERS SIDE!!!!!(REAR DRIVELINE PROBLEM WHEN THE RIGHT SIDE IS AT FULL DROOP!!!:frown: )
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0672.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0676.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0678.jpg
AFTER I SPEND A FEW HOURS MOVING THE ENGINE I CAN MOVE ON TO THE FRONT LINKS!!!ONCE THOSE ARE IN PLACE ILL ADD THE FRONT AND REAR SHOCK MOUNTS,ADD THE BRAKES,STEERING AND DRIVELINES!!!!THEN THE FUN PART TAKE IT ALL APART.......PAINT IT,WELD IT(THIS INCLUDES THE TRANSMISSION DIFFERENTIAL:eek: !!!)REASSEMBLE IT AND PIMP IT!!!!
UniBomber
February 15th, 2007, 10:46 PM
nice....that sooks sooooo sick :Big Grin: what size heims are those and where did you get em???
MR.ROCKAPE
February 15th, 2007, 10:57 PM
nice....that sooks sooooo sick :Big Grin: what size heims are those and where did you get em???
THEY ARE 3/4 QA1s WITH A 5/8THS BOLT HOLE!!!!GOT 90% OF THE HEIMS AND BRACKETS AT BALLISTIC FAB!!!!
Connect
February 16th, 2007, 01:45 PM
Question, why go with the Tony K air shox?
MR.ROCKAPE
February 16th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Question, why go with the Tony K air shox?
THEY ARE A DIFFERENT DESIGN.....SO THEY DONT INSTANTLY UNLOAD LIKE A REGULAR AIR SHOCK!!!!ALSO I GOT A GOOD DEAL FOR 4!!!!I WAS LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DAMPENING THAN FOX, RACERUNNER OR MANY OF THE OTHERS OFFERED!!!!!
toywelder
February 17th, 2007, 07:32 PM
what W/B are you trying to get ??
MR.ROCKAPE
February 17th, 2007, 10:12 PM
what W/B are you trying to get ??
BETWEEN 101-103!!!!
toywelder
February 19th, 2007, 05:43 AM
114 here
MR.ROCKAPE
February 19th, 2007, 09:15 PM
114 here
WTF???ARE YOU BUILDING A SCHOOL BUS???THIS IS ONLY 116!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0569.jpg
Pook
February 20th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Nice build, I'm going to be looking at building something similar in the near future.
MR.ROCKAPE
February 20th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Nice build, I'm going to be looking at building something similar in the near future.
YOU MIGHT WANNA WAIT AND MAKE SURE THIS THING IS GONNA WORK!!!!I WOULD POST NEW PICS BUT ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IS CLEANING ALL THE BRACKETS OFF OF THE FRONT AXLE HOUSING SO I CAN LINK IT UP!!!!THEN SHOCKS ALL THE WAY AROUND!!!!
AND YOU DONT MIND IF WE CALL YA POOKY???:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
February 20th, 2007, 09:13 PM
IS THIS YOUR BUILD???
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553767
POOKY???:Big Grin:
toywelder
February 21st, 2007, 06:51 AM
so mine is longer then your !!
she likes it like that :Big Grin:
my runner on rocks was at 127''(97''wide) man you guys are short over there !
my truggy is 114'' and i love how it works
Dirty Harry
February 21st, 2007, 08:37 AM
Aren't you concerned about breakover? Most moon buggies have a low belly height and are stable with around a 106" wheelbase.
toywelder
February 21st, 2007, 09:23 AM
it will be close to my truggy and it works very well around here
jeeper89
February 21st, 2007, 11:39 AM
what is the height at the belly??
Pook
February 21st, 2007, 01:21 PM
IS THIS YOUR BUILD???
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553767
POOKY???:Big Grin:
lol, yeah started that for my brother, he's taken over the finishing, I have a formulatoy.
MR.ROCKAPE
February 25th, 2007, 09:30 PM
SOME UPDATES!!!!NOW ITS GOT LINKS ALL AROUND!!!!STILL NEEDS A PAN HARD UP FRONT AS WELL AS MOUNTS FOR IT!!!!I SURE AM RUNNING OUT OF ROOM REAL FAST!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0717.jpg
I HATE MAKING BRACKETS!!!!!(SO FAWKING TIME CONSUMING)I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE AND HAVE ONLY NEEDED TO MAKE BOTH AXLE END UPPER LINK BRACKETS!!!!EVERYTHING ELSE CAME FROM BALLISTIC FAB!!!!(AND SOME FROM SAMBO(THEY WERE MORE LIKE TEMPLATES FOR THE ONES I REMADE OUT OF THICKER METAL!!!!)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0710.jpg
AGAIN THAT SEAT IS FOR REFERENCE..........I HOPE I CAN GET THE SHOCKS ON IT THIS WEEK!!!!THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO SET IT ON SOME TIRES!!!!THEN I WILL NEED TO PUT IT ASIDE FOR A FEW WEEKS AS THROTTLE AND I READY THE TRUGGY FOR TTC 2007!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0709.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
February 25th, 2007, 09:38 PM
A FEW MORE.....
FROM THE DRIVERS SEAT...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0719.jpg
UPPER LINK MOUNT
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0712.jpg
UPPER LINK MOUNTS RIGHT NEXT TO MY HIP....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0713.jpg
blackwidow
February 25th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Nice!!! I will be startin' up my project hopefully mid week when I have all the parts ready....How exactly are you going to mount the front shocks? It seems they will be at a pretty extreme angle
MR.ROCKAPE
February 25th, 2007, 09:50 PM
Nice!!! I will be startin' up my project hopefully mid week when I have all the parts ready....How exactly are you going to mount the front shocks? It seems they will be at a pretty extreme angle
SHOCK HOOPS ARENT THERE YET........I NEEDED THE AXLE TO BE IN PLACE FRONT AND REAR BEFORE I COULD COME WITH A FINAL DESIGN!!!!
WHEN ITS ALL DONE IT WILL BE LIKE FITTING 10 POUNDS OF CRAP IN A 5 POUND BAG!!!!:cool:
AND AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW IT IS 102 INCH WHEELBASE!!!!!MAYBE I CAN GET THIS DONE IN TIME TO TAKE THE $2500 WATERFALL ON UPPER BRONCO!!!!!:eek:
blackwidow
February 25th, 2007, 10:26 PM
MAYBE I CAN GET THIS DONE IN TIME TO TAKE THE $2500 WATERFALL ON UPPER BRONCO!!!!!:eek:
not if I get it first :smoke:
MR.ROCKAPE
February 25th, 2007, 10:42 PM
I HAD TO READ BACK IN THIS THREAD.........I HAVE ABOUT 68 HOURS IN THIS NOW AND THE CHASSIS WASNT STARTED UNTIL JANUARY FIRST 2007!!!!SO I MIGHT JUST GET THIS DONE IN TIME TO CALL IT AN 07 AND WHEEL IT THIS YEAR!!!!
4thgenhtch
February 26th, 2007, 02:03 AM
Let me know when your ready to finish up that little bit of electrical, I have been crazy buzy getting the new ride on the road :dance1:
MR.ROCKAPE
February 26th, 2007, 06:47 PM
Let me know when your ready to finish up that little bit of electrical, I have been crazy buzy getting the new ride on the road :dance1:
DONT WORRY AS SOON AS IT HAS DRIVELINES YOULL BE HEARIN FROM ME!!!!:Big Grin:
Connect
February 26th, 2007, 07:22 PM
I told yer ass I'd make you any custom brackets you need :)
MR.ROCKAPE
February 26th, 2007, 09:15 PM
I told yer ass I'd make you any custom brackets you need :)
I KNOW BUT I KINDA NEED THEM ASAP WHEN IM LINKIN STUFF!!!!BUT I DO NEED SOME SHOCK TABS!!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
February 27th, 2007, 11:58 PM
WELL ITS FINALLY LINKED FRONT AND REAR!!!!!ON TO SHOCK HOOPS, MOUNTING THE SHOCKS AND ITS A ROLLER!!!!MAYBE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND I CAN ROLL IT OUTSIDE FOR A FEW PICS!!!!!
Connect
February 28th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Get me some dimensions on the shock tabs and they are yours.
deadandcompany
February 28th, 2007, 08:28 PM
MAYBE I CAN GET THIS DONE IN TIME TO TAKE THE $2500 WATERFALL ON UPPER BRONCO!!!!!:eek:
:foshizzle:
SPOON-EAZY
March 2nd, 2007, 09:03 AM
:foshizzle:
:ditto: :thBEER:
MR.ROCKAPE
March 4th, 2007, 10:30 PM
:ditto: :thBEER:
IS YOU JUNK FIXED YET????UBC IS CALLIN!!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
March 4th, 2007, 11:18 PM
FINALLY GOT THE FRONT SHOCK HOOPS MADE AND INSTALLED TODAY!!!!!WHAT A PAIN THEY WERE!!!ILL ADD SOME PICS TOMORROW!!!!MAYBE BY THE END OF THE WEEK ILL BE ABLE TO ROLL IT OUTSIDE FOR MORE PICS!!!!THEN THIS PROJECT WILL GO ON THE BACK BURNER,AS I NEED TO START FINISHING DETAILS ON THE TRUGGY!!!!(TTC.......HERE WE COME!!!!I HOPE:redface: )
crawldaddy
March 6th, 2007, 06:55 PM
Why are you not done yet? and i want more pics.
UniBomber
March 6th, 2007, 08:41 PM
Why are you not done yet? and i want more pics.
so demanding.......you're such a dick :Big Grin:
crawldaddy
March 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM
so demanding.......you're such a dick :Big Grin:
I sold my chassis, and i will be starting a new one this weekend :Big Grin: How is your project comeing?
Connect
March 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM
I gotta cut yo tabs nigga, been sick the last few not into work.
MR.ROCKAPE
March 7th, 2007, 06:50 PM
I gotta cut yo tabs nigga, been sick the last few not into work.
NOW IM ALL WAITING ON YOU!!!!TOLD YA TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT RHG FOOL..........DID HE GET YA SICK OR WAS IT THE SHORTS IN THE SNOW???
MR.ROCKAPE
March 7th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Why are you not done yet? and i want more pics.
ITS THAT WORK THING THAT KEEPS ME FROM FINISHING IT!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
March 8th, 2007, 12:09 AM
A FEW MORE PICS....(PUT THE FRONT SHOCK HOOPS ON IT SUNDAY!!!)NOW IM JUST WAITING FOR SHOCK TABS!!!!(COUGH CONNECT COUGH......)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0736.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0734.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0732.jpg
IT STILL NEEDS SOME CROSS SUPPORT TUBES AS WELL AS SOME TUBE TO TIE IN THE REAR SECTION TO THE MAIN FRAME RAILS!!!!AND I AM GOING TO ADD A BIT OF BLING TO THE NOW BORING ROOF!!!!!
Sierra Valley
March 8th, 2007, 10:15 AM
I sold my chassis, and i will be starting a new one this weekend :Big Grin: How is your project comeing?
You didnt sale it to Dead & Co????:eek:
deadandcompany
March 8th, 2007, 01:19 PM
I sold my chassis
What:eek: I dont remember picking it up, I'll go double check my garage:mullet:
MR.ROCKAPE
March 8th, 2007, 01:38 PM
What:eek: I dont remember picking it up, I'll go double check my garage:mullet:
WTF???DIDNT YOU JUST GET A ZUKI BUGGY???ARE YOU GONNA PART IT IN TO THIS OTHER BUGGY???DEE DEE DEE???
Sierra Valley
March 8th, 2007, 02:57 PM
WTF???DIDNT YOU JUST GET A ZUKI BUGGY???ARE YOU GONNA PART IT IN TO THIS OTHER BUGGY???DEE DEE DEE???
Aaron had his chasis sold and was waiting on the one crawldaddy was going to "SALE" him..... So yes he was planning on swapping everything.
MR.ROCKAPE
March 8th, 2007, 10:51 PM
GOT THE FRONT SHOCKS ON TONIGHT!!!!(CONNECT CAME THROUGH WITH THE TABS!!!THANKS AGAIN!!!)I HOPE SAMBO HAS SOME MORE TABS LIKE I BOUGHT FROM HIM BEFORE???IF HE DOES IT SHOULD BE ROLLED OUTSIDE FOR SOME PICS BY SUNDAY!!!!:cool:
ILL POST PICS TOMORROW!!!!
crawldaddy
March 8th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Aaron had his chasis sold and was waiting on the one crawldaddy was going to "SALE" him..... So yes he was planning on swapping everything.
Hey Hey Hey! bitches when we talked about it at moonrocks i did not even know for sure if i was gonna get rid of it.. Some how another guy cought wind of the convo and made ne a deal i could not pass up.. 300' tube alot of plate and all the link tube "not cheap" and some cash:Big Grin: Sorry dead but i could not pass it up..
MR.ROCKAPE
March 8th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Hey Hey Hey! bitches when we talked about it at moonrocks i did not even know for sure if i was gonna get rid of it.. Some how another guy cought wind of the convo and made ne a deal i could not pass up.. 300' tube alot of plate and all the link tube "not cheap" and some cash:Big Grin: Sorry dead but i could not pass it up..
UH-OH.....LOKKS LIKE AARON IS GONNA HAVE TO WHEEL THAT ZUKI BUGGY LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES!!!!
deadandcompany
March 9th, 2007, 08:29 AM
300' tube alot of plate and all the link tube "not cheap" and some cash:Big Grin: Sorry dead but i could not pass it up..
Understood, but I would have done the same deal, I wanted that chassis.
UH-OH.....LOKKS LIKE AARON IS GONNA HAVE TO WHEEL THAT ZUKI BUGGY LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES!!!!
Dam Ape, thats 14 1/2 minutes longer than you have wheeled all year:eek:
Im still shoppin for a new chassis, I want something lower and rear engine. In the meantime, the current setup will get me by.
MR.ROCKAPE
March 9th, 2007, 08:54 AM
Understood, but I would have done the same deal, I wanted that chassis.
Dam Ape, thats 14 1/2 minutes longer than you have wheeled all year:eek:
Im still shoppin for a new chassis, I want something lower and rear engine. In the meantime, the current setup will get me by.
THATs HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR RIG AND NOT BUY IT!!!!! :eek:
ONLY BEEN ACTUALLY WORKING ON THIS ONE SINCE THE FIRST OF JANUARY!!!!
deadandcompany
March 9th, 2007, 09:17 AM
THATs HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR RIG AND NOT BUY IT!
I built 5 vehicles, then realized that I could just buy sh!t. More time spent wheelin:dance2:
MR.ROCKAPE
March 9th, 2007, 10:13 AM
I built 5 vehicles, then realized that I could just buy sh!t. More time spent wheelin:dance2:
HOW MANY ALL TUBE RIGS FROM SCRATCH???AND SINCE THE BOUGHT RIGS ARE ONLY IN YOUR POSSESION FOR 3 MONTHS MAYBE BUYING SOUNDS GOOD BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CANT FIND ONE THAT REALLY IS WHAT YOU WANT!!!!GUESS ITS TIME TO BUILD!!!!
deadandcompany
March 9th, 2007, 10:25 AM
HOW MANY ALL TUBE RIGS FROM SCRATCH???AND SINCE THE BOUGHT RIGS ARE ONLY IN YOUR POSSESION FOR 3 MONTHS MAYBE BUYING SOUNDS GOOD BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CANT FIND ONE THAT REALLY IS WHAT YOU WANT!!!!GUESS ITS TIME TO BUILD!!!!
All valid points, but are you stating that there is nothing you would have done differently on your 1st buggy? Or even the SS that you havn't even finished yet?
MR.ROCKAPE
March 9th, 2007, 10:40 AM
All valid points, but are you stating that there is nothing you would have done differently on your 1st buggy? Or even the SS that you havn't even finished yet?
THE ONLY REGRET ON THE FIRST ONE IS NO LINKS UP FRONT(AND THAT MAY CHANGE BEFORE I SELL IT)THE CURRENT ONE I AM VERY HAPPY WITH HOW IT IS TURNING OUT SO FAR!!!!I DONT SEE ANY REAL CHANGES NEEDING TO HAPPEN.IF FOR SOME REASON IT IS LACKING HP,I CAN EASILY ADD A TWIN CAM ZC HONDA ENGINE THAT WILL BOLT UP TO THIS ONES TRANS AND CURRENT MOUNTS,AS WELL AS USE THE ENGINE MANAGMENT CURRENTLY ON IT.BUT THAT IS ONLY $450 MORE!!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
March 10th, 2007, 01:03 AM
AS PROMISED...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0737.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0736.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0741.jpg
TOP OF THE CAGE.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0746.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0747.jpg
I CYCLED THE REAR SUSPENSION AND NO BINDING OR CHANGES WILL NEED TO BE MADE!!!!
IM GONNA PUT THE REAR AXLE BACK TOGETHER TOMORROW AND SET IT ON THE GROUND!!!!
SPOON-EAZY
March 10th, 2007, 07:54 AM
IS YOU JUNK FIXED YET????UBC IS CALLIN!!!!!STARTING ON IT NEXT WEEK. RE-WORKING THE BACK TUBE WORK AND LOWER SHOCK MOUNTS. WANT TO RAISE THE TIE-ROD ALSO BUT THAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN LATER.
UniBomber
March 10th, 2007, 10:25 AM
AS PROMISED...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0737.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0736.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0741.jpg
TOP OF THE CAGE.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0746.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0747.jpg
I CYCLED THE REAR SUSPENSION AND NO BINDING OR CHANGES WILL NEED TO BE MADE!!!!
IM GONNA PUT THE REAR AXLE BACK TOGETHER TOMORROW AND SET IT ON THE GROUND!!!!
that looks sick :Big Grin: .
MR.ROCKAPE
March 10th, 2007, 09:37 PM
that looks sick :Big Grin: .
I DIDNT GET MUCH DONE ON IT TODAY.......I SERVICED MY TRAILER INSTEAD!!!(TIRES,NEW BRAKE SHOES,PACKED THE BEARINGS,ADDED BRAKES TO THE OTHER AXLE,POUNDED OUT THE FENDER DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE F-N THROTTLE TRUGGY,AND WASHED!!!!)SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO FOR ANOTHER SEASON OR TWO OF WHEELIN!!!(MAYBE FOREVER SINCE I DONT WHEEL AS OFTEN AS I SHOULD!!!!:frown: )
TOMORROW ILL BE REMOUNTING THE ENGINE IN THE LO-BUDGET PIMPIN AND IT SHOULD BE A ROLLER!!!!(UNLESS THERE IS SOME UNFORSEEN PROBLEM.....)
Sauce
March 11th, 2007, 03:45 PM
whats the height going to be at the belly?!?!
UniBomber
March 11th, 2007, 03:56 PM
whats the height going to be at the belly?!?!
i thought he said 18"...
MR.ROCKAPE
March 11th, 2007, 06:31 PM
18 WITH A 39.5 INCH TIRE!!!(SHOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME CLEARANCE UNDER THE AXLE TUBES!!!!
WELL IT ROLLS........HERE IS A PIC,ILL POST MORE LATER!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0750.jpg
THIS IS ON 35s(SINCE IT WAS THE ONLY THING SOMEONE WOULD LOAN ME ON TOY WHEELS!!!)THE FRONT IS CLOSE TO RIDE HEIGHT BUT THE REAR NEEDS TO CLOME UP 2-3 INCHES!!!!THE TOP OF THE CAGE IS CURRENTLY JUST FIVE FEET TALL!!!(THIS WILL CHANGE WITH SHOCK ADJUSTMENTS AND TALLER TIRES!!!)
UniBomber
March 11th, 2007, 06:38 PM
18 WITH A 39.5 INCH TIRE!!!(SHOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME CLEARANCE UNDER THE AXLE TUBES!!!!
WELL IT ROLLS........HERE IS A PIC,ILL POST MORE LATER!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0750.jpg
THIS IS ON 35s(SINCE IT WAS THE ONLY THING SOMEONE WOULD LOAN ME ON TOY WHEELS!!!)THE FRONT IS CLOSE TO RIDE HEIGHT BUT THE REAR NEEDS TO CLOME UP 2-3 INCHES!!!!THE TOP OF THE CAGE IS CURRENTLY JUST FIVE FEET TALL!!!(THIS WILL CHANGE WITH SHOCK ADJUSTMENTS AND TALLER TIRES!!!)
we need a side shot, nigga!!!
MR.ROCKAPE
March 11th, 2007, 06:45 PM
THE ONE PIC I GOT FROM THE SIDE THE FAWKING CAMERA STRAP WAS IN THE WAY....BUT HERE YA GO!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0752.jpg
UniBomber
March 11th, 2007, 06:53 PM
THE ONE PIC I GOT FROM THE SIDE THE FAWKING CAMERA STRAP WAS IN THE WAY....BUT HERE YA GO!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0752.jpg
are those the new and improved custom mullet-militia wheels??? :mulletsmile:
it looks like you could almost get away with wheeling that thing with only 35s on it :cool:
L.D.
March 11th, 2007, 11:13 PM
are those the new and improved custom mullet-militia wheels??? :mulletsmile:
it looks like you could almost get away with wheeling that thing with only 35s on it :cool:
OH HELL NO, I KEPT THE NEW AND IMPROVED MULLET MALITIA WHEELS, WITH THE 38s. OOPS:eek: I WASAN'T SPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING. AND OH GOD DAMN, I THOUGHT "MY" YARD LOOKED SUN VALLEY, JESES, ALL YOU NEED NOW IS THE TIRES ON THE ROOF, an maybe a meth lab hidden in all that junk somewhere:mullet:
MR.ROCKAPE
March 12th, 2007, 12:23 AM
OH HELL NO, I KEPT THE NEW AND IMPROVED MULLET MALITIA WHEELS, WITH THE 38s. OOPS:eek: I WASAN'T SPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING. AND OH GOD DAMN, I THOUGHT "MY" YARD LOOKED SUN VALLEY, JESES, ALL YOU NEED NOW IS THE TIRES ON THE ROOF, an maybe a meth lab hidden in all that junk somewhere:mullet:
THE DIFFERENCE IS MINE ALL RUN!!!!:eek:
MR.ROCKAPE
March 12th, 2007, 12:26 AM
HERES THE OTHER PICS!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0756.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0754.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0751.jpg
ME HOLDING THE BABY....WHILE MY WIFE TOOK THE PIC!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0758.jpg
blackwidow
March 12th, 2007, 08:36 AM
that is fawking sick!!! Great work...can't wait to see it with those krawlers :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
April 2nd, 2007, 10:45 PM
UPDATES FINALLY.....I HAD TO MOVE THE ENGINE MORE TO THE CENTER BECAUSE OF AN ISSUE WTIH THE REAR DRIVELINE MAKING CONTACT WITH THE OIL PAN,I ALSO ADDED THE REAR VERTICLE TUBES,AND CHANGED THE TOP OF THE WINDSHIELD TUBE TO A BENT ONE!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0808.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0809.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0810.jpg
MR.ROCKAPE
April 8th, 2007, 11:11 PM
A few more....
The radiator
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0839.jpg
side shot....i am thinking that is also where the gas tank will end up
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0838.jpg
Does anyone think that would be too close for the gas tank???I was thinking if i added heat tape and a heat shield it would be ok......heres a few close ups of the tank,radiator and exhaust manifold.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0837.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0836.jpg
In the first pic there is 5 inches between the ex manifold and the tank....
If i have to move it,Ill have to put it up high right behind the drivers head :cool:
jeeper89
April 10th, 2007, 05:41 PM
what all has to be done to finish this?? has it kinda been put on the back burner to finish up the truggy???
MR.ROCKAPE
April 10th, 2007, 11:34 PM
what all has to be done to finish this?? has it kinda been put on the back burner to finish up the truggy???
WHATS LEFT.....
MOUNT GAS TANK,FIGURE OUT POWER STEERING PUMP MOUNTING,GET A SEAT,MOUNT IT,BUY AND MOUNT THE BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER AND PEDAL,MAKE THE FLOOR,MAKE A BATTERY MOUNT,,SHIFT CABLE,THROTTLE SET-UP+ 100 OTHER THINGS......
I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND SHOULD BE ON THE TRUGGY MORE!!!!I AM PLANNING TO TRY AND FIRE THIS THING UP BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND,I THINK I WILL HAVE ENOUGH OF IT IN PLACE TO DO THAT(RADIATOR,FUEL SYSTEM,BATTERY AND ENOUGH ELECTRICAL TO MAKE THE ENGINE RUN).
MR.ROCKAPE
April 28th, 2007, 12:03 PM
SINCE NO TTC FOR US...IM BACK ON THIS!!!!GOT THE FUEL TANK,FUEL PUMP AND BATTERY ALL MOUNTED UP!!!NOW IM ON THE DRIVELINES!!!!
Ok here is the c/v to driveshaft adapter....really simple actually!!!
Took the inner cv joint cup from a civic axle..
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0847.jpg
Cut it
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0848.jpg
faced it with a lathe(THANKS SAMBO...),opened up the inside just a tiny bit so the toyota yoke centering ring would slide right in...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0850.jpg
and here it is!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0852.jpg
I will cut the ears off of the toyota yoke and weld it all the way around.
The front and rear adapters are the same.Now I just need to figure what front pillow block I am going to run.I called hendrix motorsports yesterday and left a message for one off these...
http://hendrixmotorsports.com/_wsn/page7.html
I just was wondering what bearing it does use???
MR.ROCKAPE
April 29th, 2007, 01:30 AM
WELL ITS A RUNNER!!!!HAD THE GUY WHO BUILT THE HARNESS COME OVER AND STRAIGHTEN OUT A COUPLE ISSUES(ONE CAUSED BY ME...).NOW TURN THE KEY AND IT RUNS.....WELL LIKE A HONDA SHOULD!!!!NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT,CHARGING SYSTEM WORKS NORMALLY!!!!ILL GET A SHORT VIDEO TOMORROW AND POST IT!!!!
NOW I CAN UP FOR SOME MORE PARTS!!!STEERING RAMS,VALVE,COOLER AND HOSES!!!!!
NOW ITS ON TO THE FUN STUFF!!!!MAYBE ILL FAB THE COOL EXHAUST TOMORROW!!!!
L.D.
April 29th, 2007, 10:45 AM
WHEN YOU HEAR BACK FROM HENDRIX, I AM INTERESTED IN WHAT PILLOW BLOCK THEY ARE USING, OR TELL YOU TO USE. I AM GOING TO NEED ONE FOR MY BUGGY.:CowBoy-smoking: MY HILLBILLY DELUX
MR.ROCKAPE
April 29th, 2007, 09:04 PM
ITS ALIVE!!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/th_100_0858.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/?action=view¤t=100_0858.flv)
THE FUEL SYSTEM IS TEMP UNTIL I GET MORE DONE!!!!AND SINCE I HAD TO HOLD THE CAMERA AND START IT....IT ISNT GREAT QUALITY!!!!I DIDNT GET TO WORK ON IT TODAY...I WAS BRINGING NEXT WINTERS PROJECT:thbling: HOME!!!!
jeeper89
April 29th, 2007, 09:15 PM
congradulations:Big Grin:
blackwidow
April 29th, 2007, 11:38 PM
I'm jealous
Sierra Valley
April 30th, 2007, 09:39 AM
Nice ape, now you need to put a fin on the back and your ready to go.
MR.ROCKAPE
May 4th, 2007, 09:25 PM
I GOT MY BLING PILLOW BLOCK FROM HENDRIX MOTORSPORTS TODAY $67.89 WITH SHIPPING.....CAME HOME AN HOUR EARLY(BOSS LET ME OUT EARLY....NICE GUY IF HE WASNT SUCH A DICK ON THE NET!!!!)
I USED ALL STOCK TOYOTA PARTS FROM SEVERAL DRIVELINES......
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0862.jpg
THE FRONT SECTION THAT ACTUALLY ATTACHES TO THE AXLE IS A STOCK NON MODIFIED TOY TACOMA FRONT!!!!(WOO-HOO)THE UPPER SECTION OF THAT DRIVELINE IS A STOCK TOYOTA 86 2WD PIECE(THANKS LD!!!)
HERE IS THE BLING PILLOW BLOCK(USES THE STOCK TOYOTA SEALED BEARING...YOU HAVE TO CUT IT FROM THE STOCK HOLDER!!!)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0861.jpg
ENTIRE FRONT SHAFT I STILL NEED TO MOUNT THE PILLOW BLOCK...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0865.jpg
THIS IS HOW IT ATTACHES TO THE TRANS UP FRONT...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0860.jpg
AND THE REAR.......IT WAS MADE FROM THE LOWER REAR SECTION FROM A TOYOTA 4 RUNNER AND THE 4INCH PIECE OF SCRAP LEFT OVER FROM BLACKWIDOWS REAR DRIVELINE I JUST MODIFIED FOR HIM!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0859.jpg
NOW I WILL GET THE PILLOW BLOCK MOUNTED,MOCK UP A SEAT AND BUILD A PS PUMP BRACKET NEXT!!!!MAYBE ILL BE ABLE TO WHEEL THIS BY THE END OF THE SUMMER!!!:cool:
MR.ROCKAPE
May 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM
FINALLY....I DESIGNED IT LAST NIGHT AND BUILT THE SEAT MOUNT TODAY!!!!PRETTY SIMPLE IN THEORY BUT IT TOOK SOME TIME TO BUILD.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0866.jpg
FRONT DRIVELINE CLEARANCE IS TIGHT...NOW I CAN MOUNT THE PILLOW BLOCK!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0867.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0868.jpg
CURRENTLY WHERE YOUR BUTT GOES IN THE SEAT IT IS 22 INCHES OFF OF THE GROUND!!!THIS WILL HAVE AN EXTREMELY LOW CENTER OF GRAVITY!!!!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0869.jpg
AS IT GET SMALLER WITH MORE PARTS....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0874.jpg
jeeper89
May 9th, 2007, 11:30 PM
looks good:Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
May 10th, 2007, 11:40 PM
Since simple flat plate just wouldnt do I had to bling out the pillow block mount!!!It started with an idea of building it out of bent tubes but ended up like this....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/100_0875.jpg
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MR.ROCKAPE
May 13th, 2007, 12:20 AM
THREE NEW TUBES MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!!PLUS IT SOLVES HOW I WAS GONNA TIE IN THE FRONT SHOCK TOWERS AND MOUNT THE HYDRO-STEERING VALVE!!!!BUT I STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOUNT IT BLING LIKE THE PILLOW BLOCK!!!!
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blackwidow
May 13th, 2007, 08:54 AM
this thing is coming along great!
MR.ROCKAPE
May 16th, 2007, 11:00 AM
ILL GET SOME NEW PICS TONIGHT I AM JUST ABOUT DONE WITH MY ORBITAL VALVE MOUNT AND IT IS JUST AS BLING AS THE PILLOW BLOCK MOUNT!!!!AND IT WILL ALSO DOUBLE AS THE DASH!!!!TEMP GAUGE ,OIL LIGHT AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT!!!!
THEN I GOTTA ORDER SOME MORE PARTS!!!!REAR HYDRO VALVE,RAMS,STEERING COLUMN AND POWER STEERING PUMP!!!ONCE ALL OF IT IS MOUNTED IT WILL BE TIME TO DISASSEMBLE FOR WELDING AND PAINT!!!!!(MAYBE POWDER COAT!!!)
BIG BLUE
May 16th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Thats coming along great but i dont see anywhere that has room for our super :thbling: rockgods sticker....hope to see this on the trails this summer!!
Connect
May 16th, 2007, 11:55 AM
Thats coming along great but i dont see anywhere that has room for our super :thbling: rockgods sticker....hope to see this on the trails this summer!!
Axle housing might be big enough to fit them on there? :Big Grin:
MR.ROCKAPE
May 16th, 2007, 11:11 PM
Thats coming along great but i dont see anywhere that has room for our super :thbling: rockgods sticker....hope to see this on the trails this summer!!
THERE WILL BE SOME SIDE PANELS....AT LEAST FOR MY "OTHER" RENO 4WD SPONSOR!!!!:rolleyes:
Axle housing might be big enough to fit them on there? :Big Grin:
THEY BARELY FIT ON WINDSHIELDS.......ILL TRY TO MAKE ROOM FOR IT UNDER MY POWERED BY HONDA STICKERS!!!!
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