404 front axle cv joint

[MilCrawl]

Has anyone ever taken apart a cv joint on a front 404 axle. i took apart the axle to replace some broken bearing parts and was unable to disassemble the entire cv joint. seemed simple but no luck. i have never torn my axles down that far. normally just have to pull the axles out of the diff. any way if anyone knows any tricks i need them.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

POST PICS!!!!IF IT IS LIKE A TOYOTA CV/BIRFIELD JOINT YOU NEED TO GET THAT PART OFF OF THE INNER AXLE TO TAKE IT APART!!!!THEN YOU CAN SPIN THE CENTER SECTION TO REMOVE THE BALLS AND THEN THE CAGE!!!I HAVENT HAD A MOG AXLE APART SO I AM JUST GUESSING!!!!!:Big Grin:

[Ford_KTM]

POST PICS!!!!IF IT IS LIKE A TOYOTA CV/BIRFIELD JOINT YOU NEED TO GET THAT PART OFF OF THE INNER AXLE TO TAKE IT APART!!!!THEN YOU CAN SPIN THE CENTER SECTION TO REMOVE THE BALLS AND THEN THE CAGE!!!I HAVENT HAD A MOG AXLE APART SO I AM JUST GUESSING!!!!!:Big Grin:

No, its not like a birfield at all. I have never taken mine apart mil, but I mine in front of me, and can give you some heads up if I know what it is your struggling with. A good option is to either post this in the Mercedes forum on pirate as their is some major mogs guys on there. Post some pics and let me know if I can help...Good luck...

[Ford_KTM]

oh, ps i heard there is a couple hundred parts to each CV...

[MilCrawl]

POST PICS!!!!IF IT IS LIKE A TOYOTA CV/BIRFIELD JOINT YOU NEED TO GET THAT PART OFF OF THE INNER AXLE TO TAKE IT APART!!!!THEN YOU CAN SPIN THE CENTER SECTION TO REMOVE THE BALLS AND THEN THE CAGE!!!I HAVENT HAD A MOG AXLE APART SO I AM JUST GUESSING!!!!!:Big Grin:


its like a double u joint (double cardon style? maybe). the thing is almost completley disassembled but two of the pieces appear to not come apart but that doesnt make any sense. it looks as if the needle bearing support(center part of one ujoint) needs to be unscrewed like an ox ujoint but there is no apaerant way to do that. there must be some tool or trick i have not heard of. i have a 404 service manual somewhere in my garage but that doesnt mean ill ever be able to find it.

thanks for the suggestions guys.

[MilCrawl]

oh, ps i heard there is a couple hundred parts to each CV...


most of it is taken apart and none of it was a problem until i got to these last two pieces. ill have to take some pics to better explain what im talking about. i have pulled the axles al apart a couple of times but never disassembled the cv part of the axle.

[dane]

most of it is taken apart and none of it was a problem until i got to these last two pieces. ill have to take some pics to better explain what im talking about. i have pulled the axles al apart a couple of times but never disassembled the cv part of the axle.

Fuck that piece of shit, I ate some vicadin last night and lounged in the hot tub and I still feel like I got hit by a car.

Dane

[Ford_KTM]

Fuck that piece of shit, I ate some vicadin last night and lounged in the hot tub and I still feel like I got hit by a car.

Dane

HAHAHAAA..I know what you mean....I had that shit for my knee surgeries and I got pretty screwed up off that stuff....Try it with a little vag on the side...good times...

[dane]

HAHAHAAA..I know what you mean....I had that shit for my knee surgeries and I got pretty screwed up off that stuff....Try it with a little vag on the side...good times...

I might have to give that a try, tis the season right?? Have you disassembled a 404 front cv yet?? If so you know what we are talking about, the part that doesnt come apart, but could not have possibly been made as one piece?? Darin will have to get pics, but its fawked. We dont even really need it apart, but at this point we just wanna see how it works!!

Dane

[Ford_KTM]

I might have to give that a try, tis the season right?? Have you disassembled a 404 front cv yet?? If so you know what we are talking about, the part that doesnt come apart, but could not have possibly been made as one piece?? Darin will have to get pics, but its fawked. We dont even really need it apart, but at this point we just wanna see how it works!!

Dane

Yea I know what you mean...I havent ever had to pull the CV apart cause the rarely break....Give me some pics and ill give you my .02....I have no idea what your looking at, but could it possibly be pressed in??? You know those German engineers, they do things as difficult as possible, but i sure do love my axles....

[dane]

Yea I know what you mean...I havent ever had to pull the CV apart cause the rarely break....Give me some pics and ill give you my .02....I have no idea what your looking at, but could it possibly be pressed in??? You know those German engineers, they do things as difficult as possible, but i sure do love my axles....

No, it cant be pressed out, it looks like one of the needle bearing center pins should unscrew like a CTM joint to clear the ears of the outer part of the cv. It doesnt really need to come apart, but now its pissing me off that it wont come apart.

Dane

[MilCrawl]

i didnt get any pics today. have to go by the shop tommorow or fri though so ill try to remember the camera

[dane]

Left a message for Scott today, should have parts ordered tomorrow!!

Dane

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i didnt get any pics today. have to go by the shop tommorow or fri though so ill try to remember the camera

POST PICS!!!!THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!!(ESPECIALLY SINCE NONE OF A PO'NIGS WONT RUN THAT GERMANY TECHNOLOGY!!!!):Big Grin:

[KOnrad]

POST PICS!!!!THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!!(ESPECIALLY SINCE NONE OF A PO'NIGS WONT RUN THAT GERMANY TECHNOLOGY!!!!):Big Grin:

Mercedes are for those rich bitches!!!:Big Grin:

[Ford_KTM]

Mercedes are for those rich bitches!!!:Big Grin:

BS dude....I went with mogs, almost purely because the are that much cheaper. I got mine for 2250 with wheels and they where rebuilt on top of that....I am in my rig 8 grand and that is everything...I am a cheap peace of crap tho, I make everything myself. Pinion conversions, drivelines, all the fun stuff:Big Grin: :smile: :15:

[dane]

Mercedes are for those rich bitches!!!:Big Grin:

The rig in your avatar has MOGS, how the hell did you afford those???

Dane

[Ford_KTM]

Any pics of it yet...Im kinda interested in this...

[dane]

Any pics of it yet...Im kinda interested in this...

Not yet, and I cant get a hold of expedition imports to order the rebuild kit:14: :14:

Dane

[Ford_KTM]

How did this end up working out???

[MilCrawl]

How did this end up working out???

got a cv rebuild kit from expedition imports. appearently the 2 pieces are designed to come apart but nobody we talked to knew exactly how to do it. Ended up replacing all the needle bearings and seals.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

got a cv rebuild kit from expedition imports. appearently the 2 pieces are designed to come apart but nobody we talked to knew exactly how to do it. Ended up replacing all the needle bearings and seals.

SO WHEN ARE YA GONNA BRING IT BACK???THE UPPER SECTION OF THE V-CRACK IS DOING THIS----->:laughat:

[PizzILLA]

SHIT NIG, ID LOVE TO GIVE YOU INSIGHT, BUT I THINK IM JUST GOING TO TAKE MY PILE TO SCOTT THIS SUMMER AND HAVE THEM REBUILD MY FRONT FOR ME.

IT LEAKS WAY TOO MUCH AND IM NOT EXCITED ABOUT RIPPING THAT HEAVY PIECE OF CRAP UNDER MY BUMPER APART TO REPLACE SEALS MYSELF!

[MilCrawl]

SO WHEN ARE YA GONNA BRING IT BACK???THE UPPER SECTION OF THE V-CRACK IS DOING THIS----->:laughat:

when the atlas 4sp is in:Big Grin: and after moab. got no time to wheel now. putting 4 link under danes runner for the next couple weekends