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wix
December 18th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Id like to get some onboard air. Was wondering what's better a compressor/tank or a CO2 tank? Pros and cons of both.

renojeepster
December 18th, 2006, 09:58 PM
I like my Viair compressor, I picked up at Summit. If your running a 12v compressor, look for one with 100% duty cycle. I run a converted A/C pump also for high volume (filling tires), and keep my system pressurized with the Viair for the ARB's.

Ford_KTM
December 19th, 2006, 12:24 AM
If you got the abilty or money, a york is the only way to go. Build your own brackets and mount it up to whatever motor you got. Otherwise, go to onboardair.com ....Kilby has a kit for ya I'm...their really pricey tho.... I built my whole system for my 302 for about 120....The only reason it was that much was because a serpitine clutch for it was 100...I dont like the powertank, only because eventually you run out and have to get more...I do know people who like them tho...

Sauce
December 19th, 2006, 09:50 AM
CO2 is a really good way to go. You can put together a system for around $150 (or less) and it fills tires up fast. Refills are only $15 and last a long time.

Sierra Valley
December 19th, 2006, 09:56 AM
I have a york compressor thats going on my amc 360. Should get the job done great. My buddies fills his 40's up really quick and we run air tools from it as well.

Dnmeistr
December 19th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Speaking of Viair, I bought one for the TJ it is a model 400 something with around 30% duty cycle. My thinking was the duty cycle is rated @ 200psi, well the most I will ever need is 120psi and when filling a tire all I need is at most 30psi and they are near twice as fast as the ones with 100% duty cycle, so I don't think I will ever hit the duty cycle. Also important is to mount these in a place somewhere other than the engine compartment to reduce the heat build up.

wix
December 19th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Speaking of Viair, I bought one for the TJ it is a model 400 something with around 30% duty cycle. My thinking was the duty cycle is rated @ 200psi, well the most I will ever need is 120psi and when filling a tire all I need is at most 30psi and they are near twice as fast as the ones with 100% duty cycle, so I don't think I will ever hit the duty cycle. Also important is to mount these in a place somewhere other than the engine compartment to reduce the heat build up.


Thanks for the info was just lookin at the 33% duty cycle, was gonna hold out for a 100% but now maybe I wont :Big Grin:

jeeper89
December 19th, 2006, 01:25 PM
Speaking of Viair, I bought one for the TJ it is a model 400 something with around 30% duty cycle. My thinking was the duty cycle is rated @ 200psi, well the most I will ever need is 120psi and when filling a tire all I need is at most 30psi and they are near twice as fast as the ones with 100% duty cycle, so I don't think I will ever hit the duty cycle. Also important is to mount these in a place somewhere other than the engine compartment to reduce the heat build up.

doesnt 30% duty cycle mean you can use it 3 minutes out of every ten? and 100% duty cycle means you can run it all the time if you want?

Sierra Valley
December 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM
We might want big blue to step in here and explain all this in detail:Big Grin:

wix
December 19th, 2006, 02:14 PM
doesnt 30% duty cycle mean you can use it 3 minutes out of every ten? and 100% duty cycle means you can run it all the time if you want?

Thats the way I understand it. Buts its 30% @ 200psi and since most likely you wont be using it @ 200 psi it wont need to rest. Also if you keep it in a cool spot it wont need to rest as often either.
Ive heard of people takin a 20% duty cycle welder and adding additional fans to cool it and the run them 100%.

Double-a
December 19th, 2006, 05:39 PM
A buddy of mine is a fire fighter.
He uses an old O2 tank.
The cool thing about it is it is made of spun fiber glass or carbon fiber or something and it is really light.
Not sure where one would go to get ahold of one of those but if I were going to keep a tank, that would be the way I would go.

Other wise go with a york. Best way to do it.
If memory serves, the best way to get on is to strip it out of a early 80's Volvo

actually CK5 had a pretty decent write up about an install. Dont know if it is still there but there was a good amount of info on it.

I found a few links for ya.
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html
http://coloradok5.com/york.shtml
http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/faq/york.html
http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/compressors.htm

Just do a google search, shit pile of web sites out there, you'll be an expert bythe end of the night.

wix
December 27th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Went the easy route and got the viair heavy duty system, now i just need to find some where to mount the tank...

Monsterjeepn
November 27th, 2007, 01:01 PM
A buddy of mine is a fire fighter.
He uses an old O2 tank.
The cool thing about it is it is made of spun fiber glass or carbon fiber or something and it is really light.
Not sure where one would go to get ahold of one of those but if I were going to keep a tank, that would be the way I would go.


I know we used scuba tanks for filling our little paintball tanks when we go out. We fill them to 3000 psi of just regular air. Anybody ever use a system like this with some kind of regulator setup? I believe it would be possible although I think it would get expensive quick.

jeeper89
November 27th, 2007, 03:51 PM
i used a scuba tank for a while.. it cost about 5$ to refill and it did quite a few tires.. i mainly used it for rubicon trips.. and i only ever refilled it twice over about a year and a half..