What to do first?

[BIG BLUE]

Just got a 1995 Wrangler and was wondering what to do first? It has a three incg body lift :eek: Thats gotta go...so go spring over vs lift kit? Locker suggetions, gear ratios. I want to run either 33" or 35". Its gonna be a daily driver plus off-road rig so I want to find a happy medium.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Just got a 1995 Wrangler and was wondering what to do first? It has a three incg body lift :eek: Thats gotta go...so go spring over vs lift kit? Locker suggetions, gear ratios. I want to run either 33" or 35". Its gonna be a daily driver plus off-road rig so I want to find a happy medium.

SPRING OVER!!!!SWAP A DANA 44 IN THE REAR WITH A LOCKER,REGEAR AND WHEEL IT!!!!!

[deadandcompany]

Take the axle, wheels and tires off the Bronco and put them on the YJ with a spring over.

[BIG BLUE]

Take the axle, wheels and tires off the Bronco and put them on the YJ with a spring over.

but the front axle has that ifs setup...plus it has 38" tires. dont want to go that extreme to start. I need to get my hands on some 16" then I can mount those tires i bought from you.

[UniBomber]

but the front axle has that ifs setup...plus it has 38" tires. dont want to go that extreme to start. I need to get my hands on some 16" then I can mount those tires i bought from you.

i got some 16" black steelies. 6 lug. i think 4.5" BS......you want em???

[BIG BLUE]

i got some 16" black steelies. 6 lug. i think 4.5" BS......you want em???

they are stock axles so they are 5 on 4.5 I beleive...Plan to get the cosmetics done..rock fenders and crusher rear corners, sliders and then upgrade the axles with lockers and upgraded axles, need to keep it street legal as well as street friendly...not planning to keep forever just something to kill the 4 wheel bug while I am redoing the broko.

[jeeper89]

what .. got tired of wheelin the fool size???:rolleyes:

[BIG BLUE]

what .. got tired of wheelin the fool size???:rolleyes:

nope not tired just it needs a lot more work to make it trail worthy and I dont want to miss months on end of good wheelin(or like Lumpy years.....)plus drivin that gas hog back and forth to work sucked, I had to come home and then load up and trailer the broko to where I wanted to go only to have problems...so for now the broko will get the much needed tlc and I will have a decent daily driver plus a wheeler.

[jeeper89]

i have a superbeetle for sale that will be a great dd for you.. gets great gas milage:D

[BIG BLUE]

yeah fine...I will have the wrangler up to speed in a month and then you can talk shit to me...from the bottom of the trail, better bring a megaphone!!!

[UniBomber]

find some cheap foolwidths, weld 'em, gear 'em, an use the 38's off the broko......just make sure to bring spare shafts and u-joints :Big Grin:. use the stock springs for a low COG, spring over, and just cut-to-fit the tires in :Big Grin: oh, and square drivelines and a krylon-camo paintjob will finish the ferntuckey look :cool:

[BIG BLUE]

find some cheap foolwidths, weld 'em, gear 'em, an use the 38's off the broko......just make sure to bring spare shafts and u-joints :Big Grin:. use the stock springs for a low COG, spring over, and just cut-to-fit the tires in :Big Grin: oh, and square drivelines and a krylon-camo paintjob will finish the ferntuckey look :cool:

I am still waiting for our challenge..but you sold that rig didnt you...hahaha I need to keep it street legal and actually a little safe on the road since Ill drive from ferntucky to reno everyday...but I was thinking of a good urban cam job!

[wix]

I am still waiting for our challenge..but you sold that rig didnt you...hahaha I need to keep it street legal and actually a little safe on the road since Ill drive from ferntucky to reno everyday...but I was thinking of a good urban cam job!

Fernly to reno everyday? My 1st upgrade would be, buy a used GEO for $1500. Then you can do what you want to the jeep, and get rid of the pile of garbage.

[UniBomber]

Fernly to reno everyday? My 1st upgrade would be, buy a used GEO for $1500. Then you can do what you want to the jeep, and get rid of the pile of garbage.

for $2000 he can buy my great-running nissan hardbody which BTW gets awesome gas mileage :cool:

[wix]

my great-running nissan hardbody which BTW gets awesome mileage :cool:

Is this how you refer to yourself?

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Just got a 1995 Wrangler and was wondering what to do first? It has a three incg body lift :eek: Thats gotta go...so go spring over vs lift kit? Locker suggetions, gear ratios. I want to run either 33" or 35". Its gonna be a daily driver plus off-road rig so I want to find a happy medium.

Source some FSJ Waggy axles f/r (both are D44'S and a few inches wider than the Wranglers, do a spring over but be aware of axle wrap issues, and you can run 35's if they are geared right (min. 4.10's) and get a set of lockrites and wham a daily driver (a bit squirrelly but locked f/r and will go anywhere) add a winch (or the Ex-Bitch to the front and shove a cable up her ass !!!) and you can run almost anything...also you can try to locate the SCOUT II axles since they are 44's as well...I might be able to score you a set of full width axles is it a pass side or driver's side drop on that '95 (can't remember right now)....:Big Grin:

[jeeper89]

Source some FSJ Waggy axles f/r (both are D44'S and a few inches wider than the Wranglers, do a spring over but be aware of axle wrap issues, and you can run 35's if they are geared right (min. 4.10's) and get a set of lockrites and wham a daily driver (a bit squirrelly but locked f/r and will go anywhere) add a winch (or the Ex-Bitch to the front and shove a cable up her ass !!!) and you can run almost anything...also you can try to locate the SCOUT II axles since they are 44's as well...I might be able to score you a set of full width axles is it a pass side or driver's side drop on that '95 (can't remember right now)....:Big Grin:

its drivers drop.. scout axles are pass drop so that wont work:rolleyes:

[UniBomber]

Is this how you refer to yourself?

yup :cool:

[wix]

Source some FSJ Waggy axles f/r (both are D44'S and a few inches wider than the Wranglers, do a spring over but be aware of axle wrap issues, and you can run 35's if they are geared right (min. 4.10's) and get a set of lockrites and wham a daily driver (a bit squirrelly but locked f/r and will go anywhere) add a winch (or the Ex-Bitch to the front and shove a cable up her ass !!!) and you can run almost anything...also you can try to locate the SCOUT II axles since they are 44's as well...I might be able to score you a set of full width axles is it a pass side or driver's side drop on that '95 (can't remember right now)....:Big Grin:

A set up like this would good if it was a dd for around town and shit. But he's gonna be driving at least 30 miles one way on a dangerous strech of 80. Them TRUCKERS are crazy SOB's :eek: It should be set up as a commuter not dd. I got 4.0L with 4.56 gears and 35's It takes everything out of that motor to go 80 mph, not to mention its not a very relaxing drive.

Dont think I would waste my money on a jeep that I would be putting over 60 miles a day on it.

[BIG BLUE]

well i am a cali transfer so a 60 mile commute a day is nothing....I drove my old wrangler 90 miles one way with 35's and a detroit in ther rear and a trac lock in the front...through traffic and over the grade between gilroy and los banos...it did have its moments on down shifts where it would swap lanes..I dont do 80 now cause I still have too many tickets from cali and cant afford another one....:Big Grin: I probably would get a dailyt driver but this will work for now...hell i aint about comfort but about having a goodtime...

[MR.ROCKAPE]

I VOTE LEAVE IT STOCK AND JOIN THE XJ NATION!!!!THEN YOU CAN SHOW UP AT REAL RUNS AND TAKE PICS!!!!:ohyes:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

A set up like this would good if it was a dd for around town and shit. But he's gonna be driving at least 30 miles one way on a dangerous strech of 80. Them TRUCKERS are crazy SOB's :eek: It should be set up as a commuter not dd. I got 4.0L with 4.56 gears and 35's It takes everything out of that motor to go 80 mph, not to mention its not a very relaxing drive.

Dont think I would waste my money on a jeep that I would be putting over 60 miles a day on it. WERE NOT CRAZY WE JUST LIKE TO FUCK WITH PEOPLE (CUZ WE HAVE A BIGGER VEHCILE !!!

its drivers drop.. scout axles are pass drop so that wont work:rolleyes:
Thats right unless he swaps his T-Case (but that would defeat the purpose) so run foolsize 1/2T ford D44 HP front and a 9" out back...(I think Tony has a HP 44 but needs some xtra parts for $400 I'll check with him this w/e...

[Sierra Valley]

WERE NOT CRAZY WE JUST LIKE TO FUCK WITH PEOPLE (CUZ I HAVE A SMALL PECKER AND HAVE TO COMPENSATE BY DRIVING A BIG TRUCK !!!


Thats right unless he swaps his T-Case (but that would defeat the purpose) so run foolsize 1/2T ford D44 HP front and a 9" out back...(I think Tony has a HP 44 but needs some xtra parts for $400 I'll check with him this w/e...

FIXED FOR YA

[Sierra Valley]

Well if your not in any big hurry, you could buy my rear amc 20 when I pull it out has locker and is as stout as a dana 44 if you do a truss for the axle tubes and then you could regear the front to 4.56 gears to match and run 35s all day long. If your going to run 35's with that 5 speed I would even recomend going to 4.88's.

If you want to spend some time and a little money, do the waggy axles. You can get the driver drop and rear axle from certain years of the waggys! Give you a wider stance and more stability.

Another good option for you would be to find a high pinion dana 44 ford and a ford 9" out of the later model broncos which would work great with your current drive train.

Last but not least you could say fawk it and run 33's and most likely not break anything at all. Then again you could just polish those turd axles up (such as I have done with mine) with some alloy axles and run 35's.

Also, the ford 8.8 is a direct swap for the rear and more stout.

BTW, I might have a high pinion dana 44 full size for your bronco if you want to get rid of the IFS front.

[BIG BLUE]

Well if your not in any big hurry, you could buy my rear amc 20 when I pull it out has locker and is as stout as a dana 44 if you do a truss for the axle tubes and then you could regear the front to 4.56 gears to match and run 35s all day long. If your going to run 35's with that 5 speed I would even recomend going to 4.88's.

If you want to spend some time and a little money, do the waggy axles. You can get the driver drop and rear axle from certain years of the waggys! Give you a wider stance and more stability.

Another good option for you would be to find a high pinion dana 44 ford and a ford 9" out of the later model broncos which would work great with your current drive train.

Last but not least you could say fawk it and run 33's and most likely not break anything at all. Then again you could just polish those turd axles up (such as I have done with mine) with some alloy axles and run 35's.

Also, the ford 8.8 is a direct swap for the rear and more stout.

BTW, I might have a high pinion dana 44 full size for your bronco if you want to get rid of the IFS front.


holly shit Sierra Valley actually comes out with more than just smack talk....but hate to rain on your parade I did a straight axle swap in the broko a long time ago...just was a dumb ass and swapped a 44 in....I guess Ill run what i got till I break it.

[rnoyoda]

i think the first thing you might want to do is take care of that wiring problem:eek: :Big Grin: you have or shoot the :14: ex that tried to melt you shet down. just a thought sorry to hear about that.:cool:

[BIG BLUE]

1 x Yukon Dana 35 4.88 Gears $129.95
1 x Yukon Gear Dana 30 4.88 Ring and Pinion $129.95
1 x Poison Spyder Customs 87-95 YJ Wrangler Trail Cage $283.86
1 x Lock Right Locker for Front Dana 30 (27 Spline) $269.95
1 x Lock Right Locker for Rear Dana 35 (27 Spline) $267.95
1 x Poison Spyder Crusher Corners-87-95 YJ Crusher Corner LED $266

need to get my hands on a soa kit and some 35" tires and i should be set for now...:Big Grin:

[Dirty Harry]

need to get my hands on a soa kit and some 35" tires and i should be set for now...:Big Grin:

Dude if you run 35s on a Dana 35c you are going to be right back to where you are with the Broko. Puking out drivetrain parts as soon as your Jeep leaves the pavement. Swap in SOMETHING, ANYTHING else! A 9", 8.8, D44, whatever.

[BIG BLUE]

well I can get my hands on a ford 9" but then I have to upgrade the front since the bolt patterns would be different...I can see this getting out of hand fast! Anyone got a dana 44 for the front?

[MR.ROCKAPE]

LOOK FOR AN XJ DANA 44 REAR!!!!SAME WIDTH AND BOLT PATTERN!!!!:eek: I JUST DID ONE FOR A CUSTOMER A MONTH AGO!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

so does that mean the front 30 will hold up? or do i need to upgrade that too. I know the yj has that weak ass split axle so do I just upgrade to some solid axles and lock outs?I have seen a lot of xjs at the pick and pull any particular years to look for?

[MR.ROCKAPE]

so does that mean the front 30 will hold up? or do i need to upgrade that too. I know the yj has that weak ass split axle so do I just upgrade to some solid axles and lock outs?I have seen a lot of xjs at the pick and pull any particular years to look for?

THE FRONT 30 WILL PUT UP WITH 35s NOTHING MORE!!!!NOW REAR XJ 44s ARE HARD TO COME BY!!!SO GO POST ON THE XJ BOARDS AND ASK IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SELL!!!!THATS HOW I GOT ONE!!!!!

[Dirty Harry]

The 8.8 has the same 5x4.5 bolt pattern, or you could just get dual pattern rims or some wheel adapters for the front. Less than the money you are talking about putting in to your D35.

[MIGHTYRAM97]

so does that mean the front 30 will hold up? or do i need to upgrade that too. I know the yj has that weak ass split axle so do I just upgrade to some solid axles and lock outs?I have seen a lot of xjs at the pick and pull any particular years to look for?

Look around P-N-P and you might get lucky and find a matching set D44 H.P./9" off an F-150/78-79 Bronco... or even a L.P. 44/9" will work... then add lockers/gears... and be done...for a while..

[wix]

Look for a 8.8 if your gonna run 35's. I believe its stronger than a 44. 91-95 explorers had 31 spline and disc brakes. Only bad thing is c-clips. Im running front dana 30 4.56 gears arb. rear ford 8.8 detroit. 35-13.50. Havent really been able to test out the front locker but with the arb i think I can make the 30 last longer. The 8.8 seems plenty strong for 35's

Just wait untill next winter and ill sell you my axles. :Big Grin:

I blew up my spider gears in my d35 with 32's on pavement...

[BIG BLUE]

The 8.8 has the same 5x4.5 bolt pattern, or you could just get dual pattern rims or some wheel adapters for the front. Less than the money you are talking about putting in to your D35.

Broncos are 5x5.5 with a 1/2" lug nut. I am gonna hit some pick n pulls this weekend to see what I can find.

[wix]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=556963

[Connect]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=556963

Passenger drop.... dumbass :P

The way I see it is your going to be torching mounts and welding new ones on anyways, so put either an 8.8 or 44 in the rear and call it a day :Big Grin:

8.8's seem to be easier to come by then the XJ d44's, but either way you'll be far ahead of the pack compared to the D35.

Oh and Go with the Aussie Lockers (cheaper, simpler, BETTER, ask any XJ nation guy)

[BIG BLUE]

I was so close today...there was an add on craigslift for a dana44 and gm14bolt both locked with 4.56 gears, 35" tires and rims and a 300 transfer case with a 4:1 conversion for 1600 total....surprise it was already sold!!!!

[Connect]

I was so close today...there was an add on craigslift for a dana44 and gm14bolt both locked with 4.56 gears, 35" tires and rims and a 300 transfer case with a 4:1 conversion for 1600 total....surprise it was already sold!!!!

DOH!!

Oh well, do it yourself the way you want to :yes:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

I was so close today...there was an add on craigslift for a dana44 and gm14bolt both locked with 4.56 gears, 35" tires and rims and a 300 transfer case with a 4:1 conversion for 1600 total....surprise it was already sold!!!!

:laughat: you were like this...:jaw: then like...:pray: ... then like...:doh: then finally like...:Crying: so now everyone can be like...:laughat: :laughing:

I know....:07: :clown: :laugh:

[BIG BLUE]

Waiting for ups to drop off some parts....but i am still in need of a front axle. I was thinking of hitting pick n pull so what vehicles should i look for? I need a drivers side drop.

[WillyJ]

http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=261441

[BIG BLUE]

Cool great articles. Thanks. Finally found a dana 44 for the front so I can swap out my stock axles. Gonna go ford 8.8 int the rear and dana 44 up front. both are gonna sport detroit lockers with 4.88 gears. I got poision sypder rear crusher corners and rocker gaurds. Tube front fenders and a roll cage. So that should keep me busy for a while. Any ideas as what should be next???

[Dirty Harry]

What is the bolt pattern on the front 44? What are you going to do about the 5x4.5 in the rear?

[Sierra Valley]

the rear that he is using is coming from the broko and its 5.5... The 9" should be easy to get back to a 5.5 pattern thats what Shawn runs on his ford 9"

[jeeper89]

hey big blue.. when are you going to start a build thread???

[BIG BLUE]

soon as Iget a few more parts....all i got right now is the crusher corners...plus i still have to wash it from saturday...:Big Grin:

[Sierra Valley]

hey mines getting washed right now sweeeeeeeeeeet! :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

i keep planning to wash mine but the kids are asking too much...and its too cold outside right now for me to do it myself:eek: