ANOTHER GREEN YJ [Archive] - THEROCKGODS.COM Forum

wix

March 18th, 2007, 10:17 PM

Recently got a bender and bend tech 3-d. Started bending about a week and half ago. Its very slow going with a wife and 3 kids...
Started on the front with a stinger and a radiator hoop.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/fronthoop.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/sidehoop.jpg
And the start of cage.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/driverside.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/cagefront1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/cagefront.jpg
Wasnt sure if I wanted to do a new dash, but it took about 30 sec to remove the stock one, So I guess now im gonna start lookin for some bling gauges and sheet metal.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/side.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/inside.jpg
Still need to tie the back into the frame and X behind the seats and X the top. Im also gonna get new seats and tie them into the cage. I think hard stuff is behind me just a lot of tedious peices to put in.
I know it looks like another green yj (the main hoop) but I told rockape I was gonna copy him :Big Grin: Plus he has given me lots of advise and tips.

jeeper89

March 18th, 2007, 10:38 PM

man that sucks..... j/k looks good.. i really like the cage.. keep up the good work:Big Grin: what kinda plans do you have for the dash???

wix

March 18th, 2007, 10:45 PM

man that sucks..... j/k looks good.. i really like the cage.. keep up the good work:Big Grin: what kinda plans do you have for the dash???

Somthing simple. Maybe make a long hoop that will drop about 8 inches and hang it from the tube above the dash, then skin it with some sheet metal. Probably run the /\ in the windshield down through the dash and conect it into the tube under the seats?

MR.ROCKAPE

March 18th, 2007, 11:58 PM

NICE!!!!IS YOUR TOP GONNA FIT BACK ON???I LIKE THE TUBE WORK......EVEN IF IT REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER RIG I KNOW!!!!:Crying:

wix

March 19th, 2007, 08:01 AM

NICE!!!!IS YOUR TOP GONNA FIT BACK ON???I LIKE THE TUBE WORK......EVEN IF IT REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER RIG I KNOW!!!!:Crying:

Dont know if the top is gonna fit. I was checkin measurments as I went, but wont know for sure untill I try and put it on.

MR.ROCKAPE

March 19th, 2007, 06:47 PM

Dont know if the top is gonna fit. I was checkin measurments as I went, but wont know for sure untill I try and put it on.

I HAD ANOTHER IDEA IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP YOUR TAILGATE!!!!INSTEAD OF MAKING THE "POLE" GO ACROSS THE BACK HAVE IT TURN 90 DEGREES AND TIE INTO THE CHASSIS!!!!THEN WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR TAILGATE THERE ISNT A "POLE" IN THE WAY!!!!!

wix

March 19th, 2007, 10:13 PM

I HAD ANOTHER IDEA IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP YOUR TAILGATE!!!!INSTEAD OF MAKING THE "POLE" GO ACROSS THE BACK HAVE IT TURN 90 DEGREES AND TIE INTO THE CHASSIS!!!!THEN WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR TAILGATE THERE ISNT A "POLE" IN THE WAY!!!!!

If i do that I would need more pole. I was thinkin of just runin the rear pole straight down and through the body to the chassis.

Sierra Valley

March 19th, 2007, 10:18 PM

If i do that I would need more pole. I was thinkin of just runin the rear pole straight down and through the body to the chassis.

Im sure rockape would love to give you his pole:eek:

MR.ROCKAPE

March 20th, 2007, 10:37 AM

Im sure rockape would love to give you his pole:eek:

ITS AN INSIDE JOKE THERE SV...........AND I JUST SOLD HIM TWO MORE POLE STICKS TO GET THIS THING GOING!!!!!!

wix

March 21st, 2007, 12:31 AM

got some more done
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/top2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/top-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/seat.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/hardtop.jpg
Hard top should fit. Its hard to get things done when you can only work on it a couple of hours a day...

MR.ROCKAPE

March 21st, 2007, 01:31 PM

Sierra Valley

March 21st, 2007, 01:41 PM

When are you going to cut those fenders off?

wix

March 21st, 2007, 07:37 PM

When are you going to cut those fenders off?

Front or back?

wix

March 21st, 2007, 07:38 PM

LOOKS GOOD....ILL DROP OFF THE TOYOTA....AND SOME TUBE!!!CALL ME WHEN ITS DONE!!!!!

More tube please! probably gonna need one more stick after tonight.

MR.ROCKAPE

March 21st, 2007, 09:47 PM

More tube please! probably gonna need one more stick after tonight.

I GOT YA COVERED!!!!

wix

March 23rd, 2007, 11:34 PM

Got to add a little bit more tube.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/back.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/side-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/wd.jpg
Gonna try and get this thing finished (cage only) by the end of this weekend.

MR.ROCKAPE

March 23rd, 2007, 11:51 PM

LOOKS GOOD....AT LEAST IT ISNT A 100% COPY NOW!!!:mullet:

whitelightnin87

March 24th, 2007, 07:44 PM

BIG BLUE

March 24th, 2007, 08:37 PM

Sierra Valley

March 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM

I see you still havent installed a beer holder for me:tongue: Looks good!

jeeper89

March 24th, 2007, 09:30 PM

I see you still havent installed a beer holder for me:tongue: Looks good!

is that cause you plan on your rig breaking and you going back to riding passenger again..:eek: :rolleyes:

MR.ROCKAPE

March 24th, 2007, 10:22 PM

a stinger larger than your hood does nothing. its there to keep you from going over front ways....watch a lot of backwards rollovers and the stinger does nothing but get bent. watch the famous rocakape backflip and notice his stinger goes by-by....ever seen an 80s truck with huge lift blocks and 4 shocks per corner...fads come and go...as will huge as stingers

WHAT???MINE ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE MY RIG WILL DRIVE BACK TO THE TRAILER AFTER A ROLL.....CANT DO THAT WITH A BROKEN RADIATOR!!!!IN MY ROLL THE STINGER DID EXACTLY AS IT SHOULD HAVE!!!!!RUINED THE STINGER AND NOTHING ELSE!!!!!THEY ARE EASY TO REPLACE,AND CHEAP TOO!!!!

Sierra Valley

March 24th, 2007, 10:50 PM

WHAT???MINE ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE MY RIG WILL DRIVE BACK TO THE TRAILER AFTER A ROLL.....CANT DO THAT WITH A BROKEN RADIATOR!!!!IN MY ROLL THE STINGER DID EXACTLY AS IT SHOULD HAVE!!!!!RUINED THE STINGER AND NOTHING ELSE!!!!!THEY ARE EASY TO REPLACE,AND CHEAP TOO!!!!

x2000

My stinger was done in 5 mins, I made mine tall so it will keep the vitals safe. After rockapes roll at moonrocks I was sold on them. He didnt even scratch his hood...

wix

March 24th, 2007, 11:27 PM

what is the point of having a stinger and a grill hoop if neither of them are tall enough to actually do anything in the event of a roll over i thought that was the point of a stinger and grill hoop combo

Stingers dont have to be taller than the hood. I looked at many before deciding how I wanted mine to look. I dont like huge boner lookin stingers. a small stinger protruding out enough can do the same thing without bending. Mine was made based on a line from the top of the cage down to the top of stinger. The line is about 6-8 inches above the hood.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/stinger6.jpg
The radiator hoop is above the hood. Maybe from the other angles it looks lower. The stinger is actually about even with the hood. Even if it is lower, I can care less about sctraches and dents to the hood. Its there to protect the RADIATOR not the hood.
By the way how about some progress pics on that suki? or is it still sitting in the driveway?

jeeper89

March 24th, 2007, 11:33 PM

By the way how about some progress pics on that suki? or is it still sitting in the driveway?
its still on the trailer.. we are in the progress of building a new shop so all our projects got pushed back.. but we should be able to start again soon:Big Grin:

wix

March 24th, 2007, 11:58 PM

Thought I would be able to finish the cage this weekend but had to work on this for the munchkins. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/playhouse.jpg:thbling: :thbling: Playhouse for kids.

whitelightnin87

March 25th, 2007, 12:22 AM

like jeeper 89 said we are building a shop right now and i am also waiting on my stuff to come from bluetorch fab. i ordered coil buckets, like two weeks ago and they still arent here it is kind of pissing me off but when i get started i will start posting pics. but it will probably be at least a month before the shop is finished

wix

March 25th, 2007, 10:35 PM

Got more done.
Almost ready for back half. :eek:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/bak.jpg
These hip bars were way too easy :mullet:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/hipbar.jpg

MR.ROCKAPE

March 25th, 2007, 11:55 PM

NICE PLAYHOUSE.....OOPS I MEAN JEEP CAGE!!!!WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GONNA HAVE IT DONE???NOW THAT YOU DID THAT SECTION DO YOU NEED MORE POLE???:Big Grin:

wix

March 26th, 2007, 12:07 AM

NICE PLAYHOUSE.....OOPS I MEAN JEEP CAGE!!!!WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GONNA HAVE IT DONE???NOW THAT YOU DID THAT SECTION DO YOU NEED MORE POLE???:Big Grin:

Got plenty of pole to finish. All I have left is to tie the back in to the main hoop, then tie it all into the frame. Plus the dash... Goin steel head fishing for the next 3 days up in oregon so I wont get to work on it again till next weekend..

BIG BLUE

March 26th, 2007, 09:55 AM

looking real nice. Now i have pleanty of ideas to steal from both you and rockape to fix my green jeep...although I dont think its gonna stay green since it really doesnt make since with my screen name....keep up the good work. And have fun with the steelhead!

wix

March 31st, 2007, 10:37 AM

The fishing trip was pretty gay, was more like a beer drinkin trip...The back just didnt look right, started measuring again and there was no way the hardtop was gonna fit back on. So I had to take 3 inches out of the main hoop and sleeve it back together. Then I bent up to more peices for the back. Should get this thing wraped up this weekend, gonna go get some seats today!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/back2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/back3.jpg

wix

April 1st, 2007, 02:53 AM

Went and got some new seats. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/seats.jpg Only problem is im 6'3" 275lbs, its kinda a tight squeeze. I have the seats as low as I can get them and i dont have much clearance around my head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/back1.jpg Gonna add two more small peices of tube then Im done! except welding it all together, at6taching it too the frame. and painting it.

Sierra Valley

April 1st, 2007, 04:18 AM

whitelightnin87

April 1st, 2007, 09:48 AM

are those the hunsaker sport seats? i got a pair of those before they came to kragen i got them off of an ebay store. mine are cloth though and they arent bad seats

wix

April 1st, 2007, 10:55 AM

Hey fawker, those are the seats I have sitting in my garage!!!!!! Just need somebody to help me bend some tube to get them installed.

Did you get those at Kragen? I picked up 2 pairs the other week for my pops and me. So you make the 5th person I know thats running these seats.

Cage is looking really good. I see some thinks I plan to steal from your build:Big Grin:

Ya same seats, Only difference is you got yours more like a couple of months ago and they're still sitting in your garage. I got mine yesterday and installed them yesterday! :gapteeth: :mullet: :tongue: You also got that killer sale price, i paid $150 per seat. They are real comfortable just pretty big. I like that they fold forward, slide, and recline.

Sierra Valley

April 1st, 2007, 05:48 PM

wix

April 26th, 2007, 11:07 PM

finally got to work on this again. Pulled the whole cage out to start welding on it. Welding these things while still in must be a pain...Pulling it made it pretty easy once I figured out my new welder.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/cage-1.jpg

Also got my harnesses from summit.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/seats-1.jpg
Its all welded just need paint it and clean the tub up and get like 6 people help me put it back in :redface:

jeeper89

April 26th, 2007, 11:17 PM

looks good.. you did a great job:thbling:

MR.ROCKAPE

April 26th, 2007, 11:26 PM

Welding these things while still in must be a pain...Pulling it made it pretty easy once I figured out my new welder.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sierra Valley

April 27th, 2007, 09:35 AM

sweet jungle gym, kids must love it:Big Grin:

MIGHTYRAM97

April 27th, 2007, 11:58 PM

Hell maybe I would get to the seats if I could get this damn engine sqaured away. Worked on it friday night, worked on it sat for after till after midnight. Thought everything was in order start it up this morning I blew an exhaust gasket out and the one I did last night was leaking.

God Im a tard at wrenching. Always takes me twice. Pretty disappointed today.

Hey Keith, with your exhaust woes... run a straight edge across the flange and see if it's level, if not you can use a belt sander to level it out, if you feel incompetent take it to a machine shop and they will machine it for you, and torque it evenly, unfortunately if they have thin flanges they will warp real quick, (time to pony up some cash and get something with thicker flanges, how is the rest of the exhaust supported ?? because that will pull on the headders and also warp them....( Sanderson makes a real good headder, as well as Doug Thorley) but they ain't cheap.... check out www.centuryperformance.com The owner is Sam Solace, he is located on w 7th st. (he runs an internet based auto performance buisness) Jim used to work for him a few years back (Jim worked at Advanced Automotive) I have delt with him many times and he is extremely knowledgeable.. but a good guy...he carries Sanderson and Doug Thorley stuff as well as Borla....:Big Grin:

wix

April 29th, 2007, 04:02 PM

Hey Keith, with your exhaust woes... run a straight edge across the flange and see if it's level, if not you can use a belt sander to level it out, if you feel incompetent take it to a machine shop and they will machine it for you, and torque it evenly, unfortunately if they have thin flanges they will warp real quick, (time to pony up some cash and get something with thicker flanges, how is the rest of the exhaust supported ?? because that will pull on the headders and also warp them....( Sanderson makes a real good headder, as well as Doug Thorley) but they ain't cheap.... check out www.centuryperformance.com The owner is Sam Solace, he is located on w 7th st. (he runs an internet based auto performance buisness) Jim used to work for him a few years back (Jim worked at Advanced Automotive) I have delt with him many times and he is extremely knowledgeable.. but a good guy...he carries Sanderson and Doug Thorley stuff as well as Borla....:Big Grin:

Its cute that you wanna help SV out, but couldn't you do it through a pm or get his phone # and you two can talk this through over a nice bottle of wine? Can a mod move this post?!?

wix

May 15th, 2007, 10:58 PM

Havent posted in a while and I havent done much work on this. Got the cage out welded it up, painted it and herculined the tub. Then got the cage back in, what a pain in the ass to do by your self. Tonight I started mounting the cage to the frame and bolting down the seats.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1272.jpg This was the front. Was pretty easy just scary cutting the the sliders on my back with a cutting weel :frown: The back was a pain. Had to cut holes in the body then fish down some tube with a bend in it to clear the fuel lines and the tailgate hinge mounts.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1275.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1274.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1273.jpg

wix

May 15th, 2007, 11:07 PM

The rest of the cage. Total bends in the cage counting frame mounts is 30. Total tube lost count after 100' ( i think about 140 with the stinger and radiator hoop)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1278.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1281.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1276.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1277.jpg
Cool thing is after all this work ITS NOT GONNA WHEEL ANY BETTER THAN BEFORE.

MR.ROCKAPE

May 15th, 2007, 11:35 PM

WELL AT LEAST IT LOOKS BETTER!!!!AND YOU GOT RID OF THE ORIGINAL HOOP THAT SOME SELF PROCLAIMED HARDCORE WHEELER IS STILL ROCKIN!!!!(COUGH PJ COUGH.......)

SHOULD I CHANGE THE TITLE TO F-PJs WACK-HALF???

jeeper89

May 16th, 2007, 12:58 PM

looks great.. good job

wix

July 25th, 2007, 12:35 AM

Havent posted anything about my jeep, but Ive been doing a few small things to it, mainly collecting parts.

My jeep is sprung under so to get a few more inches of clearance I went to that spring shop on sunshine lane. He made me up some new u-bolts. Then I welded the original spring plate to some new perches and filed the u-bolts.
Before
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/IMG_0643.jpg
After.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1569.jpg

I picked up an AW4 from some clown a while back and I finally got around to getting all the extra parts he didn’t have. I also got the AW shift controller with some switches, shifter, and lights. Would like to get this in asap but just haven’t had the time…
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1570.jpg
Grabed a tera low 4:1 conversion kit from TOR.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1504.jpg
It was pretty easy to install. Only bitch was getting the bearings out of the front out-put shaft on the old t-case. Had to make a press with a jack, some scrap steel and a 1 1/8” socket. It popped right out.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1568.jpg

Also got these from dead&co. They’re just sitting in the yard for now. The plan is to put them in this winter with air shocks, 3 link front and rear and 40’s or 42’s. But ive also been looking at some wrecked tj’s and thinking maybe I should just start a new project…
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1567.jpg

MR.ROCKAPE

July 25th, 2007, 10:57 PM

YOU KNOW YOU WANNA JUST BUILD A CHASSIS FOR THOSE AXLES!!!!!I GOT AN IDEA AND IF YOU PUT THE ENGINE FAR ENOUGH BACK IT WOULDNT BE MORE THAN 6 FEET TALL!!!!

I NEED TO PUT IN A TERA LOW IN A 231 FOR A CUSTOMER.......SOON!!!!

ALSO DONT SHOW THOSE ROCK RASH PICS OF YOUR AXLES TO SV......HE MIGHT JUST WANNA INCREASE HIS HARDCORE PASSENGER POINTS WHILE RIDING WITH YOU!!!!

Connect

July 26th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Looking at wrecked TJ's?? Do tell. I might be in need of a project to put my axles under :)

wix

July 26th, 2007, 11:32 PM

Looking at wrecked TJ's?? Do tell. I might be in need of a project to put my axles under :)
Ill give ya hint, they put WRECKED vehicles there, and there are a few in reno.

BIG BLUE

July 27th, 2007, 12:13 PM

Are you talking about the LithiaDealrship on Mills St? Or are you talking about L.D. front yard? Damn I was never good at these guessing games..I need more hints!

MR.ROCKAPE

July 27th, 2007, 12:22 PM

Are you talking about the LithiaDealrship on Mills St? Or are you talking about L.D. front yard? Damn I was never good at these guessing games..I need more hints!

WRECKING YARD???LD IS A TOYOTA JUNK DEALER....GET IT RIGHT!!!!

Connect

July 27th, 2007, 01:32 PM

Ill give ya hint, they put WRECKED vehicles there, and there are a few in reno.

Oh OH OH!!! I got this one!!!! :Big Grin: Your Talking about WAL-MART right??? :tongue: :Smile: :Big Grin:

L.D.

July 27th, 2007, 06:05 PM

WRECKING YARD???LD IS A TOYOTA JUNK DEALER....GET IT RIGHT!!!!

but my WIFE just brought home ANOTHER '92 burb (like one wasn't enough):eek:

wix

November 5th, 2007, 11:51 PM

winter is comming and im gonna start tearing this thing apart. Got the mogs moved into my garage and got my new rubber today. :Big Grin: Gonna start ordering all the brackets and other goodies i need to get this thing rollin!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2236.jpg

42" Iroks next to the 35's
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2234.jpg

MR.ROCKAPE

November 6th, 2007, 08:54 AM

LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT SOME PARTS TO INSTALL!!!!ARE YOU GONNA LINK IT ALL THE WAY AROUND???SHOCKS,COILS, COIL-OVERS???

wix

November 6th, 2007, 09:05 AM

LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT SOME PARTS TO INSTALL!!!!ARE YOU GONNA LINK IT ALL THE WAY AROUND???SHOCKS,COILS, COIL-OVERS???

3 link the rear. 4 link in the front. Was gonna use air shocks but now im leaning toward zj coils and I might be able to use the RE shocks I already have. on the jeep. Gonna convert it to disc brakes all around and I think I just scored a set of 17" h2 wheels for free.

MR.ROCKAPE

November 6th, 2007, 09:16 AM

3 link the rear. 4 link in the front. Was gonna use air shocks but now im leaning toward zj coils and I might be able to use the RE shocks I already have. on the jeep. Gonna convert it to disc brakes all around and I think I just scored a set of 17" h2 wheels for free.

I WOULD GET AHOLD OF PJ AND LOOK AT HIS SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU DONT WANNA DO!!!!OR CONTACT JAKE(KINGBLING HERE)AND SEE IF HE CAN GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE FOR PROBLEMS YOU CAN AND WILL RUN INTO INSTALLING THESE!!!!!

wix

November 6th, 2007, 09:29 AM

I WOULD GET AHOLD OF PJ AND LOOK AT HIS SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU DONT WANNA DO!!!!OR CONTACT JAKE(KINGBLING HERE)AND SEE IF HE CAN GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE FOR PROBLEMS YOU CAN AND WILL RUN INTO INSTALLING THESE!!!!!

I would also like to check out ford ktm setup as well.

Sierra Valley

November 6th, 2007, 08:41 PM

Nice man, between your rig and brians rig aka Col. Mustard, I should have plenty of 42's to run on my rig being that your guys rigs get wheeled twice a year.:Smile:

MR.ROCKAPE

November 7th, 2007, 09:23 AM

Nice man, between your rig and brians rig aka Col. Mustard, I should have plenty of 42's to run on my rig being that your guys rigs get wheeled twice a year.:Smile:

RIGHT!!!!!YOU ACT LIKE YOU WHEEL.....WHEN???AND UNLESS SOMEONE IS GONNA PUT YOU IN ONE OF THOSE TIRES AND ROLL YA AROUND,YOUR RIG WILL NEVER SEE 42s.IT CANT STAY RUNNING WITH 33s!!!

wix

December 12th, 2007, 12:47 AM

Started to take apart the portals to install the disc brakes. What a pain in the ass. Could not budge the 55mm bolt on the hub so I had to finally buy a compressor and impact gun. Came right off. The drum brake parts were also no fun Then the backing plate had to come off. A grinder to cut rivets and a bfh made short work of it. Now I need to start lookin for a press to get the hub off the gear...took about an hour and half to get it all off (just one corner) I think now that i know what im doing it will go a lot faster.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2606.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2610.jpg the portal side of the shaft

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2609.jpg the diff side of the shaft, not very small.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2538.jpg the disc brake conversion from exaxt
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2537.jpg got RE super flex joints for all the link ends.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2557.jpg
Also sold my small axles and tires. Big help in funding this thing.

MR.ROCKAPE

December 12th, 2007, 09:23 AM

:eek:DAMN ...THAT THING IS IN PIECES!!!!MAYBE TIME TO RE-NAME IT???MER-JEEP-BENZ???

Sierra Valley

December 14th, 2007, 12:16 AM

wix

December 14th, 2007, 08:07 AM

Good to see your getting started on the project. Im gonna have to get started on my one of these days.

If you need a press, Im sure B2 wouldnt mind if you came over and used his. Let me know and I will give him a call.

Thanks for th offer but Bought the 12 ton press at harbor frieght last night. Was only $120. The little one I made was just to small...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_1568.jpg

Sierra Valley

December 14th, 2007, 08:10 AM

wix

December 14th, 2007, 09:15 AM

Good for you Chris. Whats the time frame on this build? The old lady getting mad at ya yet or are you just hiding all the receipts?

Headed out shortly for some bird hunting over your way. Give ya a call later today about tomorrows hunting.

The wife aint mad cause she got a new horse trailer and another horse while these axles sat outside for six months. Hope to get it done by end of jan. Im just short on time to work on it.

Was in TOR last week and met the president of Gen Right and grabed some gen right tube fenders and their comp cut rear corners (had to order the corners). Ill get some pics of those up as soon as they are installed.

MR.ROCKAPE

December 14th, 2007, 02:16 PM

wix

December 14th, 2007, 03:05 PM

GOT ANY PLANS TO C-NOTCH THE FRAME SO YOU CAN BUILD IT LOW AND STILL HAVE SOME UPTRAVEL???FULL HYDRO???AND DONT MOGS HAVE CLOSE TO 7.56 GEARS IN THEM???IS SHE GONNA BE THE TRAILER QUEEN???PERSONALLY I LIKE TO TRAILER MY RIGS BECAUSE THEY DONT WEAR OUT NEARLY AS SOON!!!!

Been thinkin about notchin the frame or cutting it off :eek:, would like to stay away from it but want it to be as low as I can go. Gonna have full hydro, mogs are 7.56 gears plus got the aw4 still go in with the eltronic shifter and got the np231 with the 4:1 (dont know how that will hold up). If I take it anywhere outside where I live i will be on the trailer.

Just got back from napa. Got all the hardware for one wheel. Caliper/bracket, pads, and a rotor. Dont know why I even bother with kragen...The guys at napa (greg st) super helpful. Im gonna try and get one wheel done tonight. If all these parts from napa work out then Ill go pick up the other 3 wheels. This disc brake conv. is killin it. 2500 for the hardware from exaxct and now 200 per wheel for calipers, rotors, etc...

I also gota start thinkin about what I want to do with the H2 rims. balistic has a weld on alum. bead lock wich is super bling but 200 per wheel plus the cost to pay somone to tig it. or just going with staun bead locks.

MR.ROCKAPE

December 14th, 2007, 03:14 PM

Been thinkin about notchin the frame or cutting it off :eek:, would like to stay away from it but want it to be as low as I can go. Gonna have full hydro, mogs are 7.56 gears plus got the aw4 still go in with the eltronic shifter and got the np231 with the 4:1 (dont know how that will hold up). If I take it anywhere outside where I live i will be on the trailer.

Just got back from napa. Got all the hardware for one wheel. Caliper/bracket, pads, and a rotor. Dont know why I even bother with kragen...The guys at napa (greg st) super helpful. Im gonna try and get one wheel done tonight. If all these parts from napa work out then Ill go pick up the other 3 wheels. This disc brake conv. is killin it. 2500 for the hardware from exaxct and now 200 per wheel for calipers, rotors, etc...

I also gota start thinkin about what I want to do with the H2 rims. balistic has a weld on alum. bead lock wich is super bling but 200 per wheel plus the cost to pay somone to tig it. or just going with staun bead locks.

THATS A LOT OF DOUGH FOR GOOD BRAKES!!!!AND YOUR GONNA NEED THEM JUST AT IDLE IT WILL TRY TO DRIVE THROUGH THEM BECAUSE IT GONNA BE CRAZY LOW WITH THE AUTO,4:1 AND 7.56s!!!!MINE WITH LESS AND 4 WHEEL DISKS HARDLY HOLDS IT AT IDLE!!!!ARE THE H2s GONNA BE WIDE ENOUGH(SAID THE GUY WITH 18.5 WIDE TSLs ON 8 INCH WHEELS...)???THEY MAY KEEP THE WIDTH LIVEABLE!!!

ARE YOU AND B2KRACKER BUILDING RIGS SO SV WILL FIND SOME NEW FRIENDS???:Big Grin:

Sierra Valley

December 14th, 2007, 08:37 PM

ARE YOU AND B2KRACKER BUILDING RIGS SO SV WILL FIND SOME NEW FRIENDS???:Big Grin:

WTF is that supposed to mean? Im just trying to save up some $$$ to do a budget build. Better be carefull, I'll start coming over in the jeep and breaking down at your house:wink:

wix

December 15th, 2007, 11:07 PM

Got one wheel converted to disc brakes today. Here are the Pics.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2612.jpg
The Portal housing removed and the main gear pressed out. Was very easy with the new press. The old hub is now garbage!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2613.jpg
The new hub with the 8 on 6.5 lugs pressed in. Also the seal guard pressed on.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2614.jpg
The new hub pressed on the portal housing and bolted back on the axle. Also the brackets for the caliper brackets are bolted on.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2618.jpg
Here is the new rotor and caliper. Both ford one ton parts. Also a wheel spacer provide in the exaxt kit.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2616.jpg
VIALO! H2 rims fit now.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2617.jpg
The deep backspacing of the H2 rims almost protect all the new parts. Should be going back to Napa some time this week to pick up 3 more rotors and calipers. This conversion will be pretty easy now that I got one under my belt and all the right tools now.

MR.ROCKAPE

December 15th, 2007, 11:16 PM

MR.ROCKAPE

December 15th, 2007, 11:22 PM

WHAT IS THE APPLICATION FOR THOSE ROTORS AND CALIPERS???

wix

December 15th, 2007, 11:34 PM

THATS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN WITH DISK BRAKES!!!USUALLY PEOPLE CHEAP OUT AND TRY TO USE THE STOCK STUFF!!!HAVE YA FIGURED OUT WHAT TYPE OF LINK SET-UPS YOU ARE GONNA USE???AIR SHOCKS ,COIL OVERS,BALL-POINT PEN SPRINGS???:Big Grin:

The one jake did had disc brakes (the one in Jp mag) I believe he used the same kit. I wanted to go with the kit so I could use lighter wheels and not have to mess around with the original brake pads, lines, hubs, etc...

3 link in the rear for sure. I think a 4 link in the front will help clear the pinion snout vs. 3 link. I really wont know for sure untill I get the axles under the jeep. You might need to take a drive out here to point me in the right direction! As far as suspension I was just gonna go zj springs and shocks just because money, but now im leaning towards gettin some coil overs. Also gonna have to figure it out when the axles are under the jeep and see whats gonna work best.

wix

December 16th, 2007, 12:00 AM

WHAT IS THE APPLICATION FOR THOSE ROTORS AND CALIPERS???

Calipers are dual piston calipers from 95-98 F-350 same with the rotors. Should provide pleanty of stoping power with these all around!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2618.jpg

wix

December 23rd, 2007, 11:34 PM

Pulled out the sawsall today and started makin room for the 42’s. Cut the fenders off and comp cut on the rear.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2693.jpg
Gonna put Gen-right tube fenders and Gen-right rear corners on. Here it is with the tires to get an idea of what I would like it to look like.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2689.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2687.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2686.jpg
The width should be 85”-88” :eek: and I want the wheel base to be as close to 110” as I can get it. Called Champion wheels Friday and now im gonna ship the h2 wheels to them after the 1st so they can lock em up. Only gonna be $200 per wheel + shipping. Since I got these wheels for free seems like it will be worth it!

MR.ROCKAPE

December 24th, 2007, 12:29 AM

JUST FIGURE IT TO BE ABOUT A FOOT TALLER!!!!:Big Grin:

jeeper89

December 24th, 2007, 11:11 AM

looks good.. kinda makes me wish i still had a jeep:Big Grin:

wix

December 24th, 2007, 01:32 PM

JUST FIGURE IT TO BE ABOUT A FOOT TALLER!!!!:Big Grin:

I guess the added ground clearance catches up with it somwhere...Right now it would be sitting right on top of the axles. Im gonna nothch the front end and probably cut the rear frame off and either tube it or run 2x4 straight back from the highest part of the frame kinda like the BTF kit. Im thinkin the up travel will be less than 6 inches?

Sierra Valley

December 24th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Looks good so far! What are your plans for the gas tank and where are you placing it?

wix

December 25th, 2007, 11:57 PM

Looks good so far! What are your plans for the gas tank and where are you placing it?

i would like to keep the back seat available so I was lookin at the gen-right stretch tank or may decide to do away with the back to save some $$ and just put a fuel cell back there.

wix

January 8th, 2008, 10:17 AM

Havent been motivated to do anything lately, mainly because when I go in my garage its such a cluster F. So I've been tring to clean up and organize shit. I needed a welding table to store all the scrap and another surface to work on.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2833.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2834.jpg
Built it all from steel I had layin around except the 4'x8' 1/4" peice of plate and also a 4'x8' of expanded metal for the bottom. Still need to add lots of bracing and the bottom (expanded metal). This bitch is heavy. Had to move the 350lb peice of plate by myself! Was gonna go with 3/16 but ran into sam (samco) at metal masters and he talked me into at least going with 1/4" glad I did.
Also built some shelves for all the other crap layin around.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2832.jpg
I ordered a some new :thbling::thgrinpimp: parts for the jeep last week. The trucking company calls to set up a delivery time and I tell them that I will just come pick it all up (since they cant get a semi to my office) Then they come back with "well you cant pick them up untill tomarrow..." So I have to wait untill tomarrow...

wix

January 30th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Got all the brackets off the rear axles and cleaned it up. Since Im limited with my broken arm I put the boy to work.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2966.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2964.jpg
Kinda sad that he thought he could really knock those bolts loose.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2981.jpg
Alxe is ready to go in. I have all the link material and joints. Im gonna order some frame end brackets for the links tomarrow so I can start this ealy next week.
Here's the arm! I've had the staples removed pic is about a week old...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2947.jpg

wix

January 30th, 2008, 12:18 AM

Got my Wheels back from Champion Wheel today. Really happy with them. Champion had these things for maybe 2 days? Very quick turn around. Awesome company.
H2 wheels with weld on bead locks.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2967.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2975.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2979.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2971.jpg
Got the wheels for free from a very nice neighbor and Champion Wheel charged me a little over 2 hundred per wheel. Pretty good deal for aluminum beadlocks (if they hold up) if you ask me.

jeeper89

January 30th, 2008, 12:19 AM

looks good..(well except your arm) good to see the next generation wanting to work on stuff:Big Grin:

1SAWB

January 30th, 2008, 03:39 PM

GOGGLES DOWN :eek:

Sierra Valley

January 30th, 2008, 09:40 PM

I might be able to give ya a hand when you get ready to do the supsension. Give me a call and I can come over.

wix

February 4th, 2008, 06:52 PM

I might be able to give ya a hand when you get ready to do the supsension. Give me a call and I can come over.

Why dont you come over and finish mounting the beadlocks? Here's the one I got done.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2992.jpg

wix

February 4th, 2008, 07:03 PM

Got a package from polyperformance this morning! Put the order in thursday afternoon, and at my doorstep this morning.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2993.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2994.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2995.jpg
Bracket for the frame on the lowers. RE joint.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2996.jpg
bracket for the frame for the upper (whish bone)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2997.jpg
another of the wish bone end. I was planning on just running bushings in these. But I got too many of the RE joints and will have enough to put them on the wishbone end. I know its not neccessary but wanted to get some other opinions. Should I run these or just put some bushing in there? Will the RE joints out last the bushings? (Inside width 2 5/8")

wix

February 6th, 2008, 10:04 PM

Had to make room for the rear axle. That meant out with the gas tank. Best way to get rid of it??

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2999.jpg

Sierra Valley

February 6th, 2008, 10:07 PM

Aww snap. So what are you using for your new rear frame?

wix

February 6th, 2008, 10:13 PM

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_2998.jpg

Then add some tube.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3000.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3001.jpg

wix

February 6th, 2008, 10:19 PM

Got another package today. This one from balistic. My tube adapters and Threaded shanks.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3005.jpg
The one on the right is for the my single link for the top of the 3-link (got one extra). Only problem I can see with this one is that there may not be enough area to weld too?
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3006.jpg
These ones are for all the lower link ends
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3007.jpg

wix

February 7th, 2008, 11:26 PM

Time for some chitty welds!
Dont know wtf but when I weld (mig) .30 or .35 the welds come out super shitty. Welded the cage with .25 and it came out ok. Got all this .30 and .35 wire and I cant get it right. Getting pleanty hot enough just lots of porosity (sp?). Machine is lincoln 180c and in the manual says can weld with .35 Whats the reason it cant?
Pics
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3025.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3012.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3018.jpg

Also got my 1.5" die today, but my dumass ordered the one I really didnt want. Its a 6.5 clr I need 4.5 anyone wanna take this. 275$ you dont have to pay the 65-70$ on the shipping.

MR.ROCKAPE

February 8th, 2008, 11:54 AM

TURN UP THE GAS!!!!EITHER THAT OR YOU HAVE MELTED THE LITTLE DIFFUSER IN THE TIP OF THE TORCH!!!SETTING FOR THAT WIRE SIZE SHOULD BE 20-30CFM!!!!ARE YOU USING MIX GAS OR STRAIGHT CO2???

wix

February 8th, 2008, 12:00 PM

TURN UP THE GAS!!!!EITHER THAT OR YOU HAVE MELTED THE LITTLE DIFFUSER IN THE TIP OF THE TORCH!!!SETTING FOR THAT WIRE SIZE SHOULD BE 20-30CFM!!!!ARE YOU USING MIX GAS OR STRAIGHT CO2???

Using mix. Was at praxair a little bit ago and bought a few new nozzles. They seem to think Im no getting the gas out on the weld. Was running 30-40 cfm. Will turn it down.

MR.ROCKAPE

February 8th, 2008, 12:03 PM

Using mix. Was at praxair a little bit ago and bought a few new nozzles. They seem to think Im no getting the gas out on the weld. Was running 30-40 cfm. Will turn it down.

Ill agree....you might need to grind those welds and make a second pass!!!:frown:

wix

February 12th, 2008, 11:14 PM

Main problem with the welding was the nozzle. A new nozzle that kept the tip back inside about a 1/4" made a huge difference. Now i just need more practice...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3056.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3055.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3063.jpg

wix

February 12th, 2008, 11:38 PM

Made some templates for the rear axle brackets. Used some sheetmetal cause I didnt feel like goin into the house to find sissors. The sheet metal worked killer.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3041.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3042.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3050.jpg
I'll of course add some gussets, ethier with 1.5 dom or some plate. probably the dom. Also gonna back it with some plate.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3047.jpg
brackets for the lowers
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3046.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3049.jpg

Now I either have to start torching and grinding or bring them to somone with a table!
separation is about 12" at the frame its gonna be about 6"
Im thinkin the lower links will be around 43" the wish bone will be around 34"
One end the links will be adjustable about 2 1/2". Wheel base around 116"
The front lowers will be around 43" as well with some adjustment. First time doing this. Havent used the triad calculator but this looks like it might work. Any thoughts will help. Thanks!

jeeper89

February 12th, 2008, 11:50 PM

on the welding pause more on the edges(red dots) and go a little faster on the lines and it will make your weld smoother and better.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/jeeper89/Img_3056.jpg

wix

February 12th, 2008, 11:59 PM

on the welding pause more on the edges(red dots) and go a little faster on the lines and it will make your weld smoother and better.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/jeeper89/Img_3056.jpg

Ya if was stick or flux core I would for sure do that. I was certified with 7018, learned how to use that. Havet learned shit with mig just what Ive read and what Ive read is a striaght pass is the way to go. But Ive seen lots of guys with mig do there own shit and it all seems to hold?

jeeper89

February 13th, 2008, 12:04 AM

Ya if was stick or flux core I would for sure do that. I was certified with 7018, learned how to use that. Havet learned shit with mig just what Ive read and what Ive read is a striaght pass is the way to go. But Ive seen lots of guys with mig do there own shit and it all seems to hold?

when i did my cert for mig at the school i was told by one teacher to do the sweep and by one to do one slower straight pass.. they both hold good i think its more just looks. but if most of your weld is in the middle of the weld joint then the edges are the weaker point?

wix

February 13th, 2008, 12:11 AM

when i did my cert for mig at the school i was told by one teacher to do the sweep and by one to do one slower straight pass.. they both hold good i think its more just looks. but if most of your weld is in the middle of the weld joint then the edges are the weaker point?

Ya makes sense. But what I need is feed back about the links!

jeeper89

February 13th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Ya makes sense. But what I need is feed back about the links!

there i have no clue..:frown::redface: wish i knew.

redneck6

February 13th, 2008, 11:04 PM

looking good mine aspiers to be like yours when it grows up.

MR.ROCKAPE

February 16th, 2008, 12:39 PM

how close are the upper brackets goona be??Also are you triangulating the lowers or just going to the chassis!!!!we need the whole picture...triangulation is your friend!!!

wix

February 16th, 2008, 01:01 PM

how close are the upper brackets goona be??Also are you triangulating the lowers or just going to the chassis!!!!we need the whole picture...triangulation is your friend!!!
Upper brackets are gonna be on the frame, I think its about 42" outsided-soutside. Gonna be hard to triangulate the lowers since the polyper brackets I got to mount to the bottom of the frame, And the cast on the mogs starts right at 43". Would it work to have the lowers on the axle about 35-40"? and 42" on the frame? (all measurements are outside) Also the frame mounts on the upper trilink will be about 10" behind the frame mounts for the lowers?

Dnmeistr

February 16th, 2008, 01:13 PM

Any bit of triangulation on the lowers is good even if it is just a few degrees, it helps to reduce rear stear. Also what helps is to keep the lowers as flat as possible. Have you played with the 4 link calculator on pirate.

jeeper89

February 16th, 2008, 05:51 PM

wix

February 16th, 2008, 06:03 PM

i had that on my computer and i lost it.. anyone have a link to it?

SEARCH YOU FUCKING NEWB :mullet:

If you search Triaged or 4 link calculator should be easy to find. Ive messed with it but it makes me brain hurt..

jeeper89

February 16th, 2008, 06:05 PM

SEARCH YOU FUCKING NEWB :mullet:

If you search Triaged or 4 link calculator should be easy to find. Ive messed with it but it makes me brain hurt..

why search when i can have other search for me...:rolleyes:

Dnmeistr

February 16th, 2008, 06:15 PM

Ive messed with it but it makes me brain hurt..

Heck if you can figure out how to bend tube you should have no problem with the calculator :gapteeth:

wix

March 11th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Been workin on this as much as I can which is isnt very often. I almost got the front axle ready to go. I just need to get on portal box pressed off. My little press wont cut it. I think Ill bring it to a shop tomarrow. I also got the rear axle in place. It was a pita doing it by myself. One heavy mofo. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/283.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/290.jpg
Can you put a 5 gallon bucket under your axle with plenty of room to spare? :Big Grin: Also got the new rear section welded in.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/281.jpg
Been workin on the frame too. Got all the old brackets melted off and grinded smooth.

Sierra Valley

March 11th, 2008, 07:44 PM

Move that rear back just a tad so your tires stick out further than the body. Make for good approach angles:Big Grin:

wix

March 11th, 2008, 08:28 PM

Move that rear back just a tad so your tires stick out further than the body. Make for good approach angles:Big Grin:

That would be cool if I drove around in reverse all day! I think you meant departure. And its back plenty far enough, I guess its a bad angle in that picture. Maybe you should see it in real life.

wix

March 17th, 2008, 06:06 PM

UPDATE WITH NO PICTURES! :mullet:

Sorry no pictures, put I pretty much got the front axle all ready and should have it under the jeep by tomarrow night. Got the rest of the beadlocks all mounted up, and learned to make sure you have the valve stems in before putting the bead locks on. :mad: Good thing my son has small hands. I should be able to start linking it up towards the end of the week. :cool:
I started to list all the stuff left to do and the list isnt small...mount shocks, mount steering, pinion conv. d-lines, fuel cell/lines, brake lines, upgrade brake MC, paint...

MR.ROCKAPE

March 17th, 2008, 07:28 PM

wix

March 17th, 2008, 08:51 PM

SWEET SHOW US THE PICS OF YOUR MOUNTED SHOCKS....:mullet:

Have some faith! I got a tracking # now! should see some of stuff tomarrow...:eek:

wix

March 19th, 2008, 08:02 PM

GOT A PACKAGE TODAY.
half of the shocks. Hey its a start...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/001.jpg

xjmoser

March 19th, 2008, 08:58 PM

Nice package!:Big Grin:

wix

March 19th, 2008, 09:16 PM

Nice package!:Big Grin:

I knew it was gonna be a nice one just by the size of it.

MR.ROCKAPE

March 19th, 2008, 10:28 PM

DAMN THOSE ARE BLING!!!!AT LEAST IT WILL RIDE NICE!!!!:Big Grin:

wix

March 19th, 2008, 11:17 PM

Threw one together.
Shocks are 16" travel
coils are: 14" .0200 and 16" .0300
Put the .0200 on the bottom and the .0300 on the body end.
Dont know much about them but I started reading the coil over bible on pirate. One thing is they are long! Ill probably have to mount them to the top of the cage! :eek:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/004.jpg

Sierra Valley

March 20th, 2008, 03:20 PM

Go through the hood on the front, makes for a nice aggressive look. Whens the rest of the bling coming in?

wix

March 20th, 2008, 04:29 PM

Go through the hood on the front, makes for a nice aggressive look. Whens the rest of the bling coming in?

I'll run them through the hood if it is necessary. The rest should be here in about another 4 months Im guessing.

jeeper89

March 20th, 2008, 06:44 PM

I'll run them through the hood if it is necessary. The rest should be here in about another 4 months Im guessing.

i orderd my shocks yesterday.. and got them today:Big Grin:

izzy

March 28th, 2008, 01:12 PM

come awn!!! any new updates???:Big Grin:

wix

March 28th, 2008, 01:26 PM

Been on Vaction with the family, got back last night. Gonna do some work tomarrow. And maybe Ill give shaffer a call to see where the rest of the parts are???

wix

March 28th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Been on Vaction with the family, got back last night. Gonna do some work tomarrow. And maybe Ill give shaffer a call to see where the rest of the parts are???

Just called mike, He told me to open my eyes. My front shocks got delieverd yesterday and were sitting in the front entrance of our office. :Big Grin:

Sierra Valley

March 28th, 2008, 03:21 PM

No more excuses then, get after it.:Big Grin:

wix

March 29th, 2008, 11:58 PM

Got some stuff done today.
Finished gettin the front axle together and got it under the jeep. The mogs are pretty heavy...Im gonna try and use the stock steering arms and tie-rod. It sits in back of the axle, so I fliped it around. The tie-rod will be in the front and Ill try to mount the single ended ram in the back.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/137.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/139.jpg
One steering arm has a back end where I think I might be able to mount the ram too. I need to move it to the passenger side though...
More pics.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/138.jpg
Just barely clears the front bumper.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/136.jpg
Got 1 1/2" of clearance to the radiator hose. The front axle is sitting on jacks, tires are 1" off the ground. I think I'll only need to raise it another 2 inches? total about 4 1/2" of clearance from top of pumpkin to radiator, think it's enough??
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/135.jpg
Approach
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/143.jpg
Departure
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/133.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/142.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/134.jpg

Robicon

March 30th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Got 1 1/2" of clearance to the radiator hose. The front axle is sitting on jacks, tires are 1" off the ground. I think I'll only need to raise it another 2 inches? total about 4 1/2" of clearance from top of pumpkin to radiator, think it's

I thinks it's more than PJ has, his sits on the bump stops :eek:

wix

March 30th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Where I think it will end up.
WB 115"
Height" 83"
width 89"
Belly 27"

One more pic.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/141.jpg

Robicon

March 30th, 2008, 12:04 AM

Where I think it will end up.
WB 115"
Height" 83"
width 89"
Belly 27"

Cool rig.
89" is 3" more tha a HMMWV, and it's a wide bitch :eek: Have fun :Big Grin:

wix

March 30th, 2008, 01:05 AM

Cool rig.
89" is 3" more tha a HMMWV, and it's a wide bitch :eek: Have fun :Big Grin:

Thanks,
The disc brake conv. bumped me out a coulpe inches plus the 14.5 wide tires. Oh well what I cant fit through I'lll just drive over :cool:

wix

March 30th, 2008, 01:06 AM

And the rest of the shocks!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/144.jpg

MR.ROCKAPE

March 30th, 2008, 10:18 AM

Sierra Valley

March 30th, 2008, 11:34 AM

I like the stance on it. Gonna be a wide mo fo.

wix

March 30th, 2008, 11:36 AM

just remember your shocks need to either limit your total uptravel or you are throwing away all that shock you paid for.....

When I re-do the two seater I am planning for 20" under the belly but with 6 inches of uptravel front and rear!!!!The plus for me is that the chassis is already stepped to accomodate it!!!

You need to get your chassis at ride height,axles under it on the tires and then mock your shocks in so you know where the shock mounts need to be!!!Im thinking those super travel shocks are gonna end up through the floor and hood!!!

And...you may end up C-notching your frame to be able to fit a panhard and still have uptravel in the front!!!

I read somwhere on pirate that you can mount the shocks at full stuff. There is a formula for each shock, for like a 14 in you mount the shock brackets about 23" apart. Then you just need to hope you have the the right coils for the up and down travel you want... I need to find that thread and read up on it again.
And yeah they will be through the hood and in the back they will go through the rear wheel wells and tie in about 10" above the tub to the cage.
Was messing with the link calc. and got this
FRONT:
anti squat 94.29%
Roll axis angle 7.46
Roll center Height 30.52
instant center x axis 147.23
Instant center z axis 41.04

36" upper length
40" lower length

Does the upper link need to go the driver side frame? and attach near center line of axle? and does panhard need to attach to the frame on passenger side and axle on driver side? Im pretty sure it does just want to confirm, and would like to put the upper on the passenger side (frame)

REAR:
anti squat 95%
Roll center height 31 Roll axis angle 8
instant center x axis 132
instant center z axis 39

upper length 32"
lower length 43"

MR.ROCKAPE

March 30th, 2008, 12:12 PM

SINCE YOU ARE GONNA GO SINGLE UPPER LINK YOU CAN PUT IT WHERE YOU WANT...(THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE SOME ODD STREET HANDLING WHEN BRAKEING OR ACCELERATING...)

IF YOU LOOK AT LO-BUDGET,THE UPPER LINK IS STRAIGHT,NOT ANGLED AT ALL(I BELIEVE THAT CAUSES A BIND WITH THE PANHARD IF YOU DO ANGLE THEM...)LOWERS ARE SLIGHTLY ANGLED SO THE FRONT TIRES DONT RUB,WHEN TURNING....

SINCE LO-BUDGET WORKS WELL I PLAN TO DO IT JUST LIKE THAT AGAIN(UPPER LINK AND PANHARD BOTH MOUNT ON THE DRIVERS SIDE OF THE CHASSIS)

AND AS FAR AS YOUR #S GO.....THEY ARE REALLY HARD TO APPLY TO A MOG....THE TWIST THOSE PORTAL BOXES PUT ON THE HOUSING HAS GOT TO HAVE SOME EFFECT ON WHERE THEY ACTUALLY TRY TO ROTATE THE HOUSING AND LINK PLACEMENT....IT WOULD BE LIKE USING THE SAME PLACES ON A DANA70...THE LOWER LINKS WOULD MOUNT ON TOP OF THE TUBES AND THE UPPER LINK TOWER WOULD BE 2 FEET TALL......I BELIEVE IT HAS TO HAVE SOME EFFECT!!!(I COULD BE WRONG AS I AM KNOWN AS A MOG HATER....:Big Grin:)

colonelmustard

March 30th, 2008, 02:39 PM

rig is looking sweet.

you're definitely going want those shocks mounted up high, I wish I had mounted them higher on mine, and they're up thru the hood. 5-6 inches of uptravel to full bumpstop compression will make the highspeed stuff softer. Mine are like 5" up in rear, 6"+ up in front to full bumpstop compress with less than a inch shaft left on the shocks. I wish I had mounted the coilovers higher on my hoops to allow for more shaft at full bump and more uptravel when flexed out. the tires only move up like 6", and drop like 10". It seems to work well enough and is pretty stable, but more uptravel at the corners would even be better.

wix

April 4th, 2008, 11:17 PM

I decided to go without any triangulation in the rear lowers. It will go together a lot easier. Ill just be aware of it and if its real bad Ill have to change it.

I put together all my lowers. Need to weld up the tube adapter just contemplating stuffing some 1.5 inch .120 wall into them. Any thoughts?
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/090.jpg
If you dont own a notcher, WHY THE FAWK NOT???? Doing 4 .250 wall took about 10 minutes.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/093.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/095.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/099.jpg

I need to have somone make me some brackets for the axle end :Big Grin:
Tomarrow Im gonna work on the rear upper wish bone. should be able to get it done and mounted. Also did some reading up the coil overs. Pretty easy, just discharge them, measure distance (eye to eye) put your mounts that far apart at full stuff. Then slap the coils on, mount the shock charge em up to where you need to be. Just gotta hope I got the right size coils. :cool:

Sierra Valley

April 5th, 2008, 02:09 AM

Glad your getting some more progress going on this. Did you get your steering from Shaffer yet?:rolleyes:

wix

April 5th, 2008, 02:16 AM

Glad your getting some more progress going on this. Did you get your steering from Shaffer yet?:rolleyes:

Nope, also missing 2 front coils. Gonna need it all real soon, Ill give him a cal monday. Then Ill probably get it by the end of the week. Seems thats all it takes (though it shouldnt) is a call.

wix

April 6th, 2008, 03:16 PM

Well I worked on the rear wish bone yesterday. Took about six hours, came out real nice. The notches were good and everything fit real tight.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/003.jpg
The only problem was I didnt measure twice and cut once :14:...I got the inside measurement and got going to fast and for some reason I thought it was the outside measurement...Anyway it was off by about four inches so I guess it was just good practice. Good thing I just tacked everything. Thats what happens at 12:30am I guess. Was pretty pissed. :mad::07:

wix

April 7th, 2008, 12:08 AM

Got it right this time :Big Grin: Took about half the time too, and used up most of the peices of tube from the 1st one.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/004-1.jpg
I laid it all out on my welding table. I used a piece of 1/4" plate for a flat edge. Marked where the brackets would be (on the frame) on the flat edge and then I tacked the joints to the flat edge where they would be on the frame. Then I laid out the center tube and tacked it down as well. Then I just notched some tube and put it where it fit.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/006.jpg
I put it under the jeep where I got the brackets mounted. (sorry no pics) The upper link fits perfect. I got all my links done expect the front upper and the panhard. Im hopin to have this thing on its own wieght by the end of the week :Big Grin: (if I can find my missing coils)

Connect

April 7th, 2008, 08:51 AM

You need brackets?

wix

April 7th, 2008, 02:27 PM

You need brackets?

Ya I do! What do you need? templates?

Connect

April 7th, 2008, 03:44 PM

Ya I do! What do you need? templates?

Dimensioned drawings work best, dont have to be CAD done but templates leave alot of room for error.

wix

April 30th, 2008, 10:35 PM

Getting closer!!! :wackit:

No pics, will put some up tomarrow but got some brackets to hook all the goods to together. THANKS CONNECT

wix

May 1st, 2008, 11:08 PM

Rear axle almost there.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/056.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/057.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/061.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/062.jpg
Im getting a plasma...

Brackets from the bracket guy
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/063.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/066.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/067.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/071.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/070.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/069.jpg

Gonna ad some gussets to strengthen it. I've given up on tring to keep it low, its a losing battle...

Sierra Valley

May 2nd, 2008, 12:04 AM

Seems like you made your rear truss a little on the tall side. Your gonna have to keep that body tall so you dont bottom out on that mtn I mean truss:Big Grin:

wix

May 2nd, 2008, 12:20 AM

Seems like you made your rear truss a little on the tall side. Your gonna have to keep that body tall so you dont bottom out on that mtn I mean truss:Big Grin:

Im gonna have crazy torque at the axles so link separation is a must. Wanted to keep the lower link brackets high to take advantage of all the ground clearance, So the link separation (about 10") pushed the rear upper link up. And even If I wanted to I could have only droped it about one inch. So I could have torn off lower link brackets or a "mountain"?

MR.ROCKAPE

May 2nd, 2008, 12:34 AM

NICE LOOKING BRACKETS....I WONDER WHERE THOSE HOLES WITH A TUBE SLEEVE IDEA CAME FROM.....:rolleyes:

Connect

May 2nd, 2008, 01:20 PM

NICE LOOKING BRACKETS....I WONDER WHERE THOSE HOLES WITH A TUBE SLEEVE IDEA CAME FROM.....:rolleyes:

Yea I wonder :Big Grin:

Looks Good Chris! Are you going to make it tall enough that you won't be messing with the body to fit your upper rear link?

wix

May 2nd, 2008, 01:44 PM

NICE LOOKING BRACKETS....I WONDER WHERE THOSE HOLES WITH A TUBE SLEEVE IDEA CAME FROM.....:rolleyes:

Thanks for the idea. I will put a rock gods sitcker on it to compenstate you. Gonna need a small chunk of tube now (1.25" .120 wall). Also need about 10' of 1.5" .250 wall.

wix

May 2nd, 2008, 01:49 PM

Yea I wonder :Big Grin:

Looks Good Chris! Are you going to make it tall enough that you won't be messing with the body to fit your upper rear link?

I wont mess witht the body. Im hoping the upper link will fit right between some tube in the rear.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/Img_3001.jpg
I will have to raise a bit more, but like I said I give up on tring to keep it low...

MR.ROCKAPE

May 2nd, 2008, 01:50 PM

Thanks for the idea. I will put a rock gods sitcker on it to compenstate you. Gonna need a small chunk of tube now (1.25" .120 wall). Also need about 10' of 1.5" .250 wall.

IM TOTALLY OUTTA 1.5 .250....BUT IM SURE I GOT 1.25 SCRAP AROUND....IF YOU WANT ME TO ORDER SOME MORE 1.5 .250 ILL GET AFTER IT ON MODAY...BUT YOU WONT SEE IT UNTIL THURS/FRIDAY....

wix

May 2nd, 2008, 01:54 PM

IM TOTALLY OUTTA 1.5 .250....BUT IM SURE I GOT 1.25 SCRAP AROUND....IF YOU WANT ME TO ORDER SOME MORE 1.5 .250 ILL GET AFTER IT ON MODAY...BUT YOU WONT SEE IT UNTIL THURS/FRIDAY....

Thats fine, I dont need a whole lot just enough for the panhard bar. So order it up if ya want i can wait till friday seeing that I still done have all my steering parts...:rolleyes:

wix

May 5th, 2008, 10:58 PM

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/003-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/012.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/004-2.jpg
Right here the top of cage is at 83"

wix

May 5th, 2008, 11:00 PM

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/006-1.jpg
The Mountain fits in perfect.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/005.jpg

Now if I can just get the rest of the parts to finish the front! :rolleyes:

Sierra Valley

May 7th, 2008, 11:13 AM

Nice Chris. Its a shame you still havent gotten your parts from a local vendor:14:

wix

May 11th, 2008, 11:41 PM

Got a little done on the front axle today.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/019.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/013.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/020.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/014.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/015.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/017.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/012-1.jpg
All I need now is my steering set up...

wix

May 11th, 2008, 11:44 PM

Put one of the rear shocks in to pretend im getting closer.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/025.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/024.jpg

Sierra Valley

May 12th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Shaffer get you your steering yet?

wix

May 12th, 2008, 03:02 PM

Shaffer get you your steering yet?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/012-1.jpg
All I need now is my steering set up...

Read much? :mullet:

Connect

May 12th, 2008, 03:46 PM

Brackets look good. Hope to see that thing out on the trail here soon.

wix

May 12th, 2008, 03:58 PM

Brackets look good. Hope to see that thing out on the trail here soon.

The brackets came out great. I like the way they (shock and link bracket) tie into one another, looks like one big bracket.
Ive been thinkin about what im going to do about my panhard bar. When I figure it out Ill give you call for the brackets.

Sierra Valley

May 12th, 2008, 04:33 PM

Read much? :mullet:

Fuck you!:Big Grin:

wix

May 13th, 2008, 11:10 PM

Worked on my rear shock mounts today.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/007.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/008.jpg
Gonna cap them with these from balistic.
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/assets/images/tubeends1.jpg
Ordered some shock tabs from balistic, should be getting them tomarrow. ordered them monday getting them tomarrow. 2 days? Imagine that :rolleyes:

wix

May 17th, 2008, 02:26 AM

Thanks to Balastic and Poly performance for getting parts out in one day. If I ever do another project EVERYTHING is coming from them. Sice I got some brackets and tabs in, Ill be able to get alot done this weekend.
Here's what I did tonight.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/007-1.jpg
My front upper bracket.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/006-2.jpg
I think my welding is improving!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/008-1.jpg
Panhard mount. Came out about 2 inches too high gonna cut it down tomarrow and do the frame mount. (notice anything missing fromt he front axle??? :rolleyes:)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/009.jpg
top shot of panhard mount.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/010.jpg
Instead of tring to muscle the front axle back under the jeep, I lifted the jeep and pushed it over the front axle. Was much easier!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/013-1.jpg
Front links. DONE!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/014-1.jpg
Rear links almost DONE. The pinion droped a bit, so ill adjust the links.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/012-2.jpg
:cool: Right about at ride height 80-83"

Gonna try and get the shocks mounted tomarrow.

MR.ROCKAPE

May 17th, 2008, 11:44 AM

WHAT DO I WIN IF I TELL YA THE STEERING IS MISSING????:eek:

Sierra Valley

May 18th, 2008, 06:31 PM

WHAT DO I WIN IF I TELL YA THE STEERING IS MISSING????:eek:

A $10 gift certificate from Shaffer:rolleyes: Coming along nicely.

Connect

May 19th, 2008, 09:19 AM

Looks good Chris.

Sierra Valley

May 21st, 2008, 06:26 PM

Shaffer finally man up and get you your parts? If not its time to start talking shit!!!

wix

May 21st, 2008, 09:50 PM

Shaffer finally man up and get you your parts? If not its time to start talking shit!!!

No I havent seen them yet...They say I will get them no later than wed. of next week. But I have heard that before.

Sierra Valley

May 21st, 2008, 11:18 PM

Thats some serious bull shit. Think its pirate call out time. Some vendor:rolleyes:

wix

May 28th, 2008, 01:13 PM

Thats some serious bull shit. Think its pirate call out time. Some vendor:rolleyes:

Got it all yesterday. Took about 5 months, guess it came by pony express from texas.

MR.ROCKAPE

May 28th, 2008, 01:20 PM

Got it all yesterday. Took about 5 months, guess it came by pony express from texas.

I ASKED DSI ABOUT IT AT THE MOONROCKS,HE TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA SEE IT ON TUESDAY!!!!!

SO IS THIS THING DONE YET???EVERYTHING ELSE DONE EXCEPT STEERING???:gapteeth:

BIG BLUE

May 28th, 2008, 01:33 PM

Got it all yesterday. Took about 5 months, guess it came by pony express from texas.

Glad it all arrived..I think i found a video of your delivery guy...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tN94ePhsd4&feature=related

wix

May 28th, 2008, 01:50 PM

I ASKED DSI ABOUT IT AT THE MOONROCKS,HE TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA SEE IT ON TUESDAY!!!!!

SO IS THIS THING DONE YET???EVERYTHING ELSE DONE EXCEPT STEERING???:gapteeth:

I got pissed when I measured the wb. It got up to 120". The front axle gained 5 inches somehow...and it will be a bitch to mount the front shocks. I need to move the front axle back about 6" not looking forward to it...and my garage is a shit hole right now, smells of goat piss and cat shit...so basically my motivation is gone...I might clean my garage tonight, pull the stock skid plate and throw it in the trash and move the link brackets back.. and im gonna have to make a new skid plate and all the stuff that goes along with that.

MR.ROCKAPE

May 28th, 2008, 02:00 PM

I got pissed when I measured the wb. It got up to 120". The front axle gained 5 inches somehow...and it will be a bitch to mount the front shocks. I need to move the front axle back about 6" not looking forward to it...and my garage is a shit hole right now, smells of goat piss and cat shit...so basically my motivation is gone...I might clean my garage tonight, pull the stock skid plate and throw it in the trash and move the link brackets back.. and im gonna have to make a new skid plate and all the stuff that goes along with that.

ITS FUN FABBING RIGS!!!!....RIGHT??DONT WORRY 120 PROBABLY WONT BE SO BAD...UNLESS YOU WANNA TURN!!!

wix

May 28th, 2008, 03:31 PM

ITS FUN FABBING RIGS!!!!....RIGHT??DONT WORRY 120 PROBABLY WONT BE SO BAD...UNLESS YOU WANNA TURN!!!

120 just looks way too long...My shocks would be mounted to the radiator. Im gonna try and get it around 113.

wix

June 4th, 2008, 07:28 PM

Got it moved back, thank god for tack welds. Its at 113" now. Looks much better. Also got the rear shocks mounted.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/011-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/008-2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/007-2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/010-1.jpg
Everything looks right. Got about 6 inches showing on the shocks and about 5" until the truss will hit. Only concern is maybe the springs are too stiff. Right now the are fully discharged, I guess they will losen up (springs) then I will charge them (shocks)? Any input? Or shall post this question on Renoxj?

Connect

June 4th, 2008, 09:08 PM

wix

June 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM

Forgive my coil-over ignorance, but the coils are supporting all of the weight so it shouldn't matter if the shock is charged or not? 6" of compression for a coil-over is fairly low? Charging the shocks gives you a bit more ride height?

Ignorant here as well. Ya the coils are supporting all the wieght and charging them will raise the ride height (which I dont want). After you carge them you can adjust the coils to take the wieght back... i guess. 6" of compression also means 6" of uptravel and 10" of down which is close to what I want.

Sierra Valley

June 4th, 2008, 10:03 PM

Nice Chris. Good to see your getting some more work on this and finally have all the parts. So how much longer till she's a roller?

wix

June 5th, 2008, 12:12 AM

Nice Chris. Good to see your getting some more work on this and finally have all the parts. So how much longer till she's a roller?

I still need to make some front shock mounts, then mount the shocks. Should only take a few hours. Only problem is when I ordered my 1.5 die I got a 6.5 inch instead of the 4.5" and I havent sent it back, I may just use it and have big bends on my shock hoops...
Here's the steering stuff. after shocks Ill start putting all this on.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/017-1.jpg

wix

June 7th, 2008, 10:41 AM

Got the front shocks mounted.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/012-3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/009-2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/014-2.jpg
Still need to tie the two hoops together. Think I'll just weld some tube across, It wont be removable. I need some tube to make a panhard bar then I can put wieght on it!

MR.ROCKAPE

June 7th, 2008, 03:46 PM

wix

June 7th, 2008, 07:15 PM

LOOKS REALLY GOOD!!!!FINALLY STARTING TO BE A RIG AGAIN INSTEAD A TON OF EXPENSIVE PARTS.....

Thanks. Got any 1.5" .250 in yet? Im getting ready to dump some more coin on it. I think Im just gonna order the pinion conversions, then buy a fuel cell. Also need to get some d-lines made up and new exhaust put in. Any recomendations for somone to do the exhaust and make some drive lines? I could probably do it but just dont have the time, and I just want this thing done so I can get some time in it before it starts snowing again.

Sierra Valley

June 7th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Where are you going to mount the full hydro? In front or behind the axle?

wix

June 7th, 2008, 07:52 PM

Where are you going to mount the full hydro? In front or behind the axle?

Wanted to mount it behind, but I dont think it will work out. Ill put it in the front and add some kind of protection.

Sierra Valley

June 7th, 2008, 09:09 PM

Pizza Jeeps is up front and out of the way. Should check out how he did his.

wix

June 7th, 2008, 10:26 PM

Pizza Jeeps is up front and out of the way. Should check out how he did his.

His is double ended right?

Sierra Valley

June 7th, 2008, 11:02 PM

Yup

MR.ROCKAPE

June 8th, 2008, 01:15 AM

Thanks. Got any 1.5" .250 in yet? Im getting ready to dump some more coin on it. I think Im just gonna order the pinion conversions, then buy a fuel cell. Also need to get some d-lines made up and new exhaust put in. Any recomendations for somone to do the exhaust and make some drive lines? I could probably do it but just dont have the time, and I just want this thing done so I can get some time in it before it starts snowing again.

NO I HAVE BEEN HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON GETTING TUBE ORDERED(THEY GUY WHO GIVES ME THE GOOD DEAL WONT CALL ME BACK......AND WHEN EVER I ASK ANY OF THE OTHER SALES PEOPLE THEY GIVE ME CRAZY HIGH PRICES....:frown:)

EXHAUST IS EASY TO DO YOURSELF BUT IF YOU DONT WANNA,....MAYBE MR Zs.BOTH OF MY REGULAR EXHAUST SHOPs HAVE GONE OUTTA BUSINESS....:frown:

DRIVELINES I WOULD CALL JESSE AT HIGH ANGLE AND GET A PRICE THEM CALL TOM AT DRIVELINE SERVICE HERE IN RENO OR BAYSHORE TRUCK PARTS....I BET HIGH ANGLE WILL BE VERY COMPETITIVE EVEN SHIPPED!!!

wix

June 8th, 2008, 10:25 AM

NO I HAVE BEEN HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON GETTING TUBE ORDERED(THEY GUY WHO GIVES ME THE GOOD DEAL WONT CALL ME BACK......AND WHEN EVER I ASK ANY OF THE OTHER SALES PEOPLE THEY GIVE ME CRAZY HIGH PRICES....:frown:)

I only need about 7 feet. Maybe Ill just pick some up from sam.
Got some more done last night.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/023.jpg
Panhard mount on the frame.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/025-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/024-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/028.jpg
I'd like to put a bend in the panhard bar notch the frame.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/026.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/027.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/022.jpg
NO MORE JACK STANDS.
Its pretty high. Any hope in these springs settling a couple of inches. In the front I have about 4.5 inches of shaft on the shock showing and about 5 inches untill the top of the front axle hits the radiator. In the rear I have 5 inches showing and 6 inches until the axle hits. Anyone know if this sounds ok?

Connect

June 8th, 2008, 02:13 PM

wix

June 8th, 2008, 11:53 PM

Holy shit are you looking for a sponsorship from Monster or something? You are going to give yourself a heart attack!

I imagine the coils will settle a little bit, but what's the point of rolling coil-overs with less up-travel then an air shock would of had? I thought the idea was to have like 40% uptravel or something close to that number...

I only drink one a night while working in the garage. They collect on the floor and to get them out of the way I throw them on the hood. What you see there is about a months worth...

been reading on the coilovers and yeah 30-50% up travel is where I should be. Im close with the back but gonna have to rework the front shock mounts, (somehow the got mounted to close together) and with that I think rear will be getting close to 30%. I think I need to talk to somone who knows there shit about coilovers before I screw this whole thing up.

MR.ROCKAPE

June 8th, 2008, 11:59 PM

wix

June 9th, 2008, 12:08 AM

HOW MUCH TRAVEL DO THOSE SHOCKS HAVE???

4.5 UP FRONT AND 5-6 IN THE REAR ISNT BAD BUT I WOULD CALL SAM AND ASK HIM TO BE SURE....I HAVE NEVER HAD COIL OVERS AND THEY DO REACT ALOT DIFFERENT THAN AIS ASHOCKS.......COIL OVER SURE DO RIDE BETTER THOUGH!!!

14" in the front and 16" in the rear. It probably will work where it is but just want make sure. Plus if I can get it lower I want to. Right now its sitting over 7 feet :eek: I think you can drive your one seater under it.

MR.ROCKAPE

June 9th, 2008, 12:35 AM

14" in the front and 16" in the rear. It probably will work where it is but just want make sure. Plus if I can get it lower I want to. Right now its sitting over 7 feet :eek: I think you can drive your one seater under it.

WELL YOU GOT MAD GROUND CLEARANCE......BUT I THINK ITS TALLER THAN THE DODGE ON 44s!!!!

wix

June 9th, 2008, 11:59 PM

Had to fix the front shock tonight. I figured I mounted the upper mounts about 2 inches too low. So off with em.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/063-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/064.jpg
saved the hoops and just added some 1.75" to them.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/065-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/066-1.jpg
Lots of grinding...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/067-1.jpg
hoops 2inches taller now. :Big Grin:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/071-2.jpg
what a difference 2 inches makes!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/028.jpg
Before
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/073.jpg
After

wix

June 10th, 2008, 12:05 AM

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/074.jpg
Panhard sits much flater
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/075.jpg
Got a little of 5 inches of shaft showing and you can see the upper link bracket has about 5 inches of clearance. Much happier now.
And I learned Not to stick your finger in a bound up coil :pissed2:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/070-1.jpg

Heres some shots messing around with the link set up.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/055.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/056-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/057-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/058.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/059.jpg

Connect

June 10th, 2008, 08:54 AM

Looks alot better with the lower stance, is it just the picture or does the rear sit like an inch or two higher? I guess the mounts on that aren't as easy to change though.

MR.ROCKAPE

June 10th, 2008, 09:08 AM

I DID GET A STICK OF 1.5 .250 ORDERED YESTERDAY......IF YA GOT IT FROM SAM THATS COOL IM SURE SOMEONE WILL HAVE A USE FOR IT!!!SHOULD BE HERE ON THURDAY.....THIS WEEK!!!

wix

June 10th, 2008, 01:38 PM

Looks alot better with the lower stance, is it just the picture or does the rear sit like an inch or two higher? I guess the mounts on that aren't as easy to change though.

The back is about 2 inches taller, Im hopiing that with the feul cell and gas, some gear and settleing it will come down. I re-measured the rear and I have 7" left on the shock shaft showing and about 6.5" untill I hit, so Im pretty happy with that.

I DID GET A STICK OF 1.5 .250 ORDERED YESTERDAY......IF YA GOT IT FROM SAM THATS COOL IM SURE SOMEONE WILL HAVE A USE FOR IT!!!SHOULD BE HERE ON THURDAY.....THIS WEEK!!!
Ill wait and pick it up thursday then.

wix

June 18th, 2008, 10:56 PM

Some progress.
Bent panhard. 1.5" .250 dom bent with manual bender :cool:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/001-1.jpg
It actually wasnt that hard.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/003-3.jpg
Notched the frame.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/004-3.jpg
Fuel cell with stock yj pump. And a good place to stick all these stickers...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/005-1.jpg
Perfect fit.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/006-3.jpg
What I have left.
Front steering
brake lines
Pinion conv.
d-lines
exhaust
limit straps
maybe some air bumps

Connect

June 18th, 2008, 11:01 PM

Is the rear at ride height? I'm still hoping for a few inches of Sag :Big Grin:

MR.ROCKAPE

June 18th, 2008, 11:02 PM

LOOKS LIKE A RIG AGAIN....AND SINCE IT STILL RUNS,IT PROBABLY FEELS LIKE THE END IS NEAR!!!THE SOONER YOU CAN DRIVE IT..EVEN A LITTLE MAY HAVE YOU ADDING TO THAT LIST OF THINGS TO DO/CHANGE!!!

I LIKE IT......JURY IS STILL OUT ON THE AXLES THOUGH....:gapteeth:

wix

June 18th, 2008, 11:11 PM

Is the rear at ride height? I'm still hoping for a few inches of Sag :Big Grin: Rear is still in the same place, I too am hoping it will sag some. I may have to add another 10 gallons of gas and throw my high lift back there.

LOOKS LIKE A RIG AGAIN....AND SINCE IT STILL RUNS,IT PROBABLY FEELS LIKE THE END IS NEAR!!!THE SOONER YOU CAN DRIVE IT..EVEN A LITTLE MAY HAVE YOU ADDING TO THAT LIST OF THINGS TO DO/CHANGE!!!

I LIKE IT......JURY IS STILL OUT ON THE AXLES THOUGH....:gapteeth:

Already adding to the list forgot about tieing the rear of the cage to the back half tube and trans x-member w/skid. I think the jurry should check out those 5 & 7 gallon buckets under there with plenty of room and that jack stand stacked on the 2x and blocks!

Connect

June 19th, 2008, 09:02 AM

I'm thinking real hard about ordering up the last of my parts, this isn't helping things!

Luv my gubberment handouts ;)

Sierra Valley

June 19th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Fuck, looks like you should be running some 49''s under that bitch.

wix

June 19th, 2008, 01:08 PM

Fuck, looks like you should be running some 49''s under that bitch.

agreed. Those 42's look like 35's!

wix

June 21st, 2008, 11:12 AM

Started on the steering.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/008-3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/009-3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/014-3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/011-2.jpg
Drilled out the stock mog steering arms to take a grade 8 3/4" bolt. Dont know if the stock mog stuff will hold up...

MR.ROCKAPE

June 21st, 2008, 11:54 PM

8 OR 10" RAM???DOES IT STEER TO 45 DEGREES???

wix

June 22nd, 2008, 12:28 AM

8 OR 10" RAM???DOES IT STEER TO 45 DEGREES???

8" and I dont think im gettin the full 45 degrees...

MR.ROCKAPE

June 22nd, 2008, 12:35 AM

8" and I dont think im gettin the full 45 degrees...

I KNOW PJS TURNS PRETTY DAMN SHARP....AND SINCE YOU ARE RUNNING THE HIGH CLEARANCE MOG AXLES YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET THE BLING STEERING ANGLE WITH THEM!!!

wix

June 22nd, 2008, 10:04 PM

I KNOW PJS TURNS PRETTY DAMN SHARP....AND SINCE YOU ARE RUNNING THE HIGH CLEARANCE MOG AXLES YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET THE BLING STEERING ANGLE WITH THEM!!!

Checked it out today...and....everything is good with the 8" stroke. I guess we shouldnt questions DSI's part ordering ability!

Also talked to sam on friday and he talked me into just ordering the pinion conv. from somone who makes them. So i did. should get them around friday. I may have this thing drivable by the 4th.

wix

July 3rd, 2008, 10:58 PM

Havent got shit done on this. Workin too much and spendin time with the family. A few of the little things Ive been workin on...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/076.jpg
Tied the rear tube work to the cage.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/079.jpg
Here's the painted fenders. Color came real close but im just gonna paint the whole thing.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/078.jpg
Got a cooler for the full hydro, a new dodge 2500 master cylinder, and tools to work the brake lines.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/077.jpg
And the pinion conv. :thbling:

MR.ROCKAPE

July 3rd, 2008, 11:22 PM

wix

July 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM

THIS THING IS TURNING OUT TO BE THE MILLION DOLLA CRAWLA PART 2!!!AND IF YOU CANT BEND BRAKE LINES WITH YOUR HANDS....YOU ARE A SISSY!!!!I HAVE THE SAME TOOL AS WELL AS THE SUMMIT ONE AND I HARDLY USE THEM....ONLY WHEN I NEED REALLY TIGHT BENDS VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER....OTHER WISE THE CAGE MAKES FOR A GREAT ANTI-KINK BEND!!!!

When Im done I might try and add up what Ive spent on this thing, But I think i might get sick...Especially if it wont get up and go!

As far as the brake tool...maybe Ill want to make a 1:10 scale? The tool was priced 33.00. I bought a bunch of crap at napa mainly brake pads and rotors for a few of our work trucks and I just started sneeking this junk in :rolleyes:. I think the counter guy gave me deal, got the brake tool for 19.99.

MR.ROCKAPE

July 4th, 2008, 12:03 AM

When Im done I might try and add up what Ive spent on this thing, But I think i might get sick...Especially if it wont get up and go!

As far as the brake tool...maybe Ill want to make a 1:10 scale? The tool was priced 33.00. I bought a bunch of crap at napa mainly brake pads and rotors for a few of our work trucks and I just started sneeking this junk in :rolleyes:. I think the counter guy gave me deal, got the brake tool for 19.99.

YEAH EVERY TIME I BUILD ONE FROM SCRATCH...THE WHOLE TIME YOU WONDER IF ITS GONNA WORK OR RUN RIGHT!!!!AT LEAST IF IT RAN BEFORE IT SHOULD RUN AGAIN!!!!

MR.ROCKAPE

July 31st, 2008, 11:09 PM

ANY UPDATES???

wix

August 1st, 2008, 10:26 AM

ANY UPDATES???

Not a one. Been very busy with work. I wish this "slow economy" would catch up with us, that way I could take a few hours off... Also seems that every weekend we have a b-day party or a wedding or a softball game... But now atleast my wife is really naggin me to get it done, its takin up space in the garage.

wix

August 19th, 2008, 12:23 PM

Finally back working on this. Last night I pulled the old d-lines and welded in the tube inserts on my shock mount brackets. Today I ordered new d-lines, and Im having hose & fittings make me up all new brake lines. I got to get this out of the garage to make room for the next project.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/018.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/016.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/017-2.jpg
:gapteeth: Im growing a mullet too.

Mrburns

August 19th, 2008, 04:20 PM

isn't that what Frank the Tank drove?

Sierra Valley

August 19th, 2008, 04:30 PM

Yup.

Your gonna get the joe dirt look going:gapteeth:

wix

August 19th, 2008, 06:28 PM

isn't that what Frank the Tank drove?
Frank the tank had a 78. "the red dragon"
Yup.

Your gonna get the joe dirt look going:gapteeth:

Joe dirt drove a hemi. Kid rock drove a fire bird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd7htfeXCO4&feature=related

Sierra Valley

August 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM

I know but I still think you would look better with the joe dirt hair style

Connect

August 20th, 2008, 12:27 PM

I know but I still think you would look better with the joe dirt hair style

Uh Oh, SV is in Love! :tongue:

Sierra Valley

August 20th, 2008, 12:29 PM

Uh Oh, SV is in Love! :tongue:

Not like you are with DSI:bj:

Connect

August 20th, 2008, 03:58 PM

Not like your are with DSI:bj:

I'm sorry that your Sugar Daddy B2 broke up with you, but don't take it out on the rest of the world :rolleyes:

Sierra Valley

August 21st, 2008, 10:51 PM

I'm sorry that your Sugar Daddy B2 broke up with you, but don't take it out on the rest of the world :rolleyes:

What he broke up with me? Did he tell you that? He didnt mention anything when I stayed the night last night and went wheelin today. Now you got me worried:rolleyes:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/tahoewheelers/Shawns%20Rig%20and%20Pics/DSC00472.jpg

wix

August 27th, 2008, 11:22 PM

Here's the new drive lines next to old ones. The front is the same just a tad shorter.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/063-2.jpg
Front Installed
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/067-2.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/068.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/092.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/094.jpg
Not much clearance with the exhaust, gonna have to re-route that...
The rear installed.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/095-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/070-2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/097.jpg

wix

August 27th, 2008, 11:30 PM

Moving on to the steering. Im not gonna use the stock steering arms. I ordered some beefy ones from weps on pirate. They should ship friday so I might have them early next week and I can finish this. Im doing every thing I can untill I get them though.
orbital valve and pump mounted. Was just test fitting the pump. Still have to remove it and install the pulley.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/089.jpg
Those welds sure look pretty sheety in the picture...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/090-1.jpg
Master cylinder from a dodge 2500. It sure is big. Gots to figure out how im gonna close the hood.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/091.jpg
Also got all my brake lines. Getting real close now!

EastCoast44

August 27th, 2008, 11:52 PM

Why did you go with a CV rear shaft?

MilCrawl

August 28th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Why did you go with a CV rear shaft?

just for fun

wix

August 28th, 2008, 09:21 AM

just for fun

And to spend more money.

wix

August 28th, 2008, 09:31 AM

Why did you go with a CV rear shaft?

It wasnt that much more to get the cv made I think 75$? And I thought it might help with the off-sett pinion and the angle.

wix

September 4th, 2008, 12:45 AM

Might have this drivable this weekend! Got all the brake lines hooked up, was a challenge getting everything for the mc swap...but made it work.
steering is plumbed up. Just waiting on some High steer arms that I ordered last week. and it will rolling out of the garage!

wix

September 7th, 2008, 08:03 PM

Pretty much got it done. Just have to figure out the fuel problem and rear brakes, tie the front shock hoops together. Also need to Re-route the exhaust, put some limit straps on and paint it (if I feel like it). I started the trany mount/skid today should have that done tomarrow. Oh yeah and Im gonna order some mini air cylinders tomarrow for the lockers.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/014-4.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/015-1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/011-3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/wixjp_photos/010-3.jpg
Fuel pump problem is pissin me off. I could have drove this thing in the yard today :mad: I may just winch it on the trailer and find somone to figure out the pump problem and have a shop do the exhaust. I just want it done!