My 95 Wrangler build

[BIG BLUE]

So I got mt front end yesterday and got more than I expected...the whole front clip!!
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_2880.jpg
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After doing some measurements this is what I found out.....jeep frame 33.5" wide....ford front clip 33.5" wide :eek: direct swap..and since I have everything I have a feeling the jeep is going coilover!!! GNice things is all the brackets and mounts on the ford front clip are bolted on. So all I need to do is grind of the jeep shock buckets and drill and bolt everything up...then at a later date i will get some extended radius arms...

Heres the jeep as it sits now...
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_2872.jpg

[Sierra Valley]

There ya go blue, get after it

[BIG BLUE]

Got my cage installed. Well its all tackedin...dont trust my saefty or those of passengers to my booty fab welding or my sears welder.....

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[Sierra Valley]

looks good, your supposed to grind the paint down before you weld to it :rolleyes:

[BIG BLUE]

I know but it was freezing outside and I was just tacking shit in place. I promise I will for the final welda.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Got my cage installed. Well its all tackedin...dont trust my saefty or those of passengers to my booty fab welding or my sears welder.....


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_2902.jpg

WTF???WHATS WITH THE REALLY WEAK STOCK SIDE TUBES(NEXT TO THE DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS HEAD)???GAWD DAMN YOU FERNTUKIANS BUILD GOOFY SHIAT!!!NEXT THING YA KNOW THAT GET-RAMMED FOOL WILL BE PUTTING ROCKWELLS UNDER A BLAZER???:107: AND YOU WILL BE STANDING LOOKIN AT IT LIKE---->:38: GET RAMMED WILL SEE YOUR EXCITEMENT AND BE LIKE :hardon: THEN THE NEXT THING YA KNOW OL JEDS A MILLIONAIRE......:blow: :thbananahump: :jack:

[BIG BLUE]

:Big Grin: WTF???WHATS WITH THE REALLY WEAK STOCK SIDE TUBES(NEXT TO THE DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS HEAD)???

thats cause I cant get trottleboy to respond to my ims about getting some real 1.75" tube, So I just cut the stick ones and mocked them in there to see how it would look and how it would tie in with my handles, they are just tacked there to hold my cover on. I am defianitely changing those out!!! Anyone got some 1.75" tube they wanna part with?

[MR.ROCKAPE]

:Big Grin:

thats cause I cant get trottleboy to respond to my ims about getting some real 1.75" tube, So I just cut the stick ones and mocked them in there to see how it would look and how it would tie in with my handles, they are just tacked there to hold my cover on. I am defianitely changing those out!!! Anyone got some 1.75" tube they wanna part with?

THE TUBE AT THROTTLES HOUSE IS MINE!!!!ALL I GOTTA DO IS GIVE THE WORD AND IT IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!!!!!HELL JUST CALL YOUR EX.......I BET SHE CAN GIVE YA DIRECTIONS!!!!:mullet:

[BIG BLUE]

Well hook a brotha up...give him the word to relaese some tube from the holding cell so I can get the new tube in before the rest of the cage gets welded...:Big Grin:

[Sauce]

who is doing the final welds? Did you bend it your self?

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Well hook a brotha up...give him the word to relaese some tube from the holding cell so I can get the new tube in before the rest of the cage gets welded...:Big Grin:

MY FERNTUKEY WAREHOUSE(THROTTLES PLACE) HAS BEEN INSTRUCTED TO LET YA HAVE A STICK OF 1.75 DOM!!!!PM ME IF YOU NEED HIS #

[BIG BLUE]

MY FERNTUKEY WAREHOUSE(THROTTLES PLACE) HAS BEEN INSTRUCTED TO LET YA HAVE A STICK OF 1.75 DOM!!!!PM ME IF YOU NEED HIS #

Sweet, now we are talking. I can replace those crappy outer bars and build my hoop and stinger.

[BIG BLUE]

Took the ford front end apart last night and did some more measurements. Gonna be a tight fit bt everything should line up nicely. Jeep frame is only 4" wide while the ford frame is 6" so I guess I'll have to weld all the brackets on and gusset them. :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Getting closer to switching everything...its not gonna be a bling fabbed rockcrawler like the other green yjs but its gonna be sweet.....in my eyes at least!

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Getting closer to switching everything...its not gonna be a bling fabbed rockcrawler like the other green yjs but its gonna be sweet.....in my eyes at least!

Dude just don't drink-n-fab... cuz in those eye's anything will look good...till the morning !!:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Dude just don't drink-n-fab... cuz in those eye's anything will look good...till the morning !!:Big Grin:

YEAH....DONT BUILD ANOTHER BROKO........BUT I ALREADY HAVE NAMED THE JEEP THE JOKE'O!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

YEAH....DONT BUILD ANOTHER BROKO........BUT I ALREADY HAVE NAMED THE JEEP THE JOKE'O!!!!


:laugh: :laugh: :anj_stfu: :asshole:
:Big Grin:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

YEAH....DONT BUILD ANOTHER BROKO........BUT I ALREADY HAVE NAMED THE JEEP THE JOKE'O!!!!

:laughat: :laughing: :24: that's hillarious !!! whops looks like 'ol Blue may get a wittle butt hurt on that one... maybe he should paint it green and purple so it fits the character "Joker" I'll keep the RAM black and call it the ( I'm gonna get flamed for this one ) THE BATMOBILE... (BUTTMOBILE HAHAH !! SAW THAT ONE COMING....:Big Grin: )

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Heres the jeep as it sits now...
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_2872.jpg

WHATS WITH THE 9 INCH BODY LIFT???IS THAT STAYING OR GOING AWAY???

[BIG BLUE]

I think I'll paint El Jokeo on the hood. That body lift is defianitly gonna go as are the shakle lifts...still waiting for the front fenders and rocker gaurds to show up. Taking a long time...ordered the first part of march!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

HEY POOP STAIN!!!HERE IS THE ULTIMATE BROKO REPLACEMENT BODY FOR YA....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=573658

[BIG BLUE]

I read about that bronco when they where building it. they put a lot of work into the custom frame and dovetailed the rear...too far for me to pick up besides broko is a dead issue right now needs new motor so im building my jeep instead....:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

so did some measuring and had a few questions....if I move the front axle forward how far is typical? Secondally is it worth going coil over in the front? Right now it looks like i gain 5 inches of lift...but doing a spring over nets me 4 or 5....but how is the travel offroad compared between coils and springs...I like the way Broko flexes in the front and this would be the same setup...

[BIG BLUE]

So i got these two examples of coil setups...not sure which one to go with...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/Funny%20pics/scary178.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/Funny%20pics/DSC01669.jpg

Im leaning towards the first one cause i can get a lot of lift!!

[jeeper89]

i would go with the second.. get it lower for that comp buggy stance:wink:

[BIG BLUE]

Tube fenders arrived. Son just called me...sweet!!!!

[Connect]

So your going to keep the stock radius arms and wheel that setup? Just call up Rokjeep if you need any help!!! ;)

Looks good though, can't wait to see it done.

[BIG BLUE]

Got my fenders today. These ones are great looking and fit good.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_3055.jpg

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[MR.ROCKAPE]

NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR GONNA HAVE ALL THE CLEARANCE THOSE 31s WILL EVER NEED!!!!:tongue:

[BIG BLUE]

are you sure? I was thinking i needed more body lift....:eek:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

are you sure? I was thinking i needed more body lift....:eek:

:eek: Id go with the first pic, that lift says FERNTUCKY all over it !!!:Big Grin:

[L.D.]

:eek: Id go with the first pic, that lift says FERNTUCKY all over it !!!:Big Grin:

FERNTUCKY rules require 3 shocks per corner:eek:
CHROME preferablly

[Dnmeistr]

FERNTUCKY rules require 3 shocks per corner:eek:
CHROME preferablly

I thought Ferntucky was more like no shocks :eek:

[L.D.]

I thought Ferntucky was more like no shocks :eek:

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought that was SILVER SPRINGS.

[L.D.]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought that was SILVER SPRINGS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'VE SEEN TUBE WELDED IN TO HOLD THE AXLE IN PLACE, NO SPRINGS OR SHOCKS NEEDED. " IN SILVER SPRINGS " :eek:

[BIG BLUE]

got some work done today....gonna finsh the front tommorrow...
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[MIGHTYRAM97]

got some work done today....gonna finsh the front tommorrow...
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:eek: Dude !! gonna go rigid mount axle up front !!! SAHWEET !!!:Big Grin: NOW IT SHOULD RIDE LIKE MY DAUGHTERS POWER WHEEL !!!

[BIG BLUE]

:eek: Dude !! gonna go rigid mount axle up front !!! SAHWEET !!!:Big Grin: NOW IT SHOULD RIDE LIKE MY DAUGHTERS POWER WHEEL !!!

If you look closely I'm actually using Curries new invisible front....cost alot extra but it get a lot of comments on the trail! Beside I thouhgt power wheels actually wheeled pretty good...

[BIG BLUE]

got some more work done...almost done with the front.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_3075.jpg

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[Sierra Valley]

Nice job big blue green jeep guy. Are you going to change your screen name?

[BIG BLUE]

Naw just change my name to Big Blue and drop the 89...I am gonna paint the jeep once i get my sliders. I installed a ford power sterring pump last night and redid the track bar so the jeep was centered and not so far to the passeneger side..was like a 1" off. I used the ford pump cause the steering arm points forward rather than backwards like the jeep. Now just need to make some power steering hoses and steering arms and I am done with the front...
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_3091.jpg

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and just for fun I took this pic...Ferntucky rake!

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_3085.jpg

[MR.ROCKAPE]

SHOULD HAVE JUST CHANGED IT TO "BIG BLUE POLE SMOKER"!!!!!:mullet:

[BIG BLUE]

SHOULD HAVE JUST CHANGED IT TO "BIG BLUE POLE SMOKER"!!!!!:mullet:

I thought you were reserving that for Sierra Valley.....

[Connect]

Looks big dude! :) Glad to see some people around here are actually building rigs (unlike myself)

What gets you back and forth to work nowaday though with the YJ down?

[BIG BLUE]

Looks big dude! :) Glad to see some people around here are actually building rigs (unlike myself)

What gets you back and forth to work nowaday though with the YJ down?

arpooling with the wife. YJ is getting closer. And ya it is big.

Heres a good shot of the ferntucky rake....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/IMG_3090-1.jpg

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[jeeper89]

how much work did you get done today?

[BIG BLUE]

how much work did you get done today?

Wll I took it for a spin around the block to check the steering...should have seen the faces on the crew building houses on the street over...:eek: I have the whole rear end out and havethe 8.8 underneath. Now I just need to figure out how to mount it...either use the bronco springs and make new brackets or use the jeep springs and relocate the spring perches...

[MR.ROCKAPE]

buy new perches and use yj springs......since the front isnt gonna flex at all,the rear might be your only chance!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

buy new perches and use yj springs......since the front isnt gonna flex at all,the rear might be your only chance!!!!

Why wont the front flex? jeep too lite for the springs? I am gonna eventually put the 351 in the jeep so that will help...or are you just being a big meany? I got the perches so i know the stock spring s wont give me enough lift so gotta measure it and find out how much of a lifted spring I need...

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Why wont the front flex? jeep too lite for the springs? I am gonna eventually put the 351 in the jeep so that will help...or are you just being a big meany? I got the perches so i know the stock spring s wont give me enough lift so gotta measure it and find out how much of a lifted spring I need...

A BRONCO IS A BUNCH HEAVIER....AND THEY DONT FLEX MUCH UP FRONT!!!!AND I SAY USE YJ SPRINGS LIFTED OR NOT FOR EASE OF INSTALLATION!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

A BRONCO IS A BUNCH HEAVIER....AND THEY DONT FLEX MUCH UP FRONT!!!!AND I SAY USE YJ SPRINGS LIFTED OR NOT FOR EASE OF INSTALLATION!!!!

Well okay so you got a point but it does look tough. ANd i am all about perception....I might switch over to some jeep coils for the front and I will use the wranglers springs in the rear cause the broko springs will probably be to heavy duty and too much of a pain in the ass to setup...the front wasnt bad since the frames were the same width but jeep frames get wider at the rear so it kinda makes it not worth it. Thanks for the input.

[BIG BLUE]

jeep is all done....except the drivelines...plus the passenger brakeline that i cut in two during cutting the perch off...guess I got a little too excited!

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[jeeper89]

looks good.. now take off that huge body lift:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Thats next along with adding the sliders and repainting it. Cant wait to get the drivelines done so I can trail test it!!!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Thats next along with adding the sliders and repainting it. Cant wait to get the drivelines done so I can trail test it!!!

YOU BETTER HOOK UP WITH THE UNEMPLOYED SIERRA VALLEY AND YOU BOTH BETTER GO PUT 1000 TRAIL MILES ON YOUR RIGS.........BEFORE WE GO TO THE RUBICON!!!!(INSERT DOUBLE FLIP-OFF NO WRENCHIN SMILIE HERE!!!!)

[BIG BLUE]

YOU BETTER HOOK UP WITH THE UNEMPLOYED SIERRA VALLEY AND YOU BOTH BETTER GO PUT 1000 TRAIL MILES ON YOUR RIGS.........BEFORE WE GO TO THE RUBICON!!!!(INSERT DOUBLE FLIP-OFF NO WRENCHIN SMILIE HERE!!!!)

:eek: Holy crap thats a lot of trail miles.....I think this rig has a better chance of actually staying together than the broko...not 100% sure of that but thats what I believe!!!:Big Grin: What are you taking to the Rubicon???

[MR.ROCKAPE]

:eek: Holy crap thats a lot of trail miles.....I think this rig has a better chance of actually staying together than the broko...not 100% sure of that but thats what I believe!!!:Big Grin: What are you taking to the Rubicon???

IM STILL UNDECIDED......I KNOW EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TRUGGY....BUT THE TRAILER ISSUE DOESNT MAKE ME HAPPY,AS WELL AS HAVING TO CARRY AN EXTRA 10+GALLONS OF FUEL!!!THE GREEN JEEP MIGHT BE A BETTER CHOICE,BUT I NEED TO GET IT OUT AND SEE WHAT IT NEEDS!!!!OR MY NEWEST..... THE EX THROTTLE TOY ON 35s!!!!BOTH OF THE LAST TWO COULD BE DRIVEN TO THE TRAIL(I THINK???).ILL FIGURE IT OUT SOON!!!

[dane]

Hell yea BB, good to see you building something else!!! You need some real axles and tires and you will be all set. Kidding, but stoked you got the jeep looking good!!

Dane

[BIG BLUE]

So I picked up a driveline today and hacked and welded one together :eek: and took the jeep for a test run...everything seemed good...a whooping 50 miles an hour on the freeway :eek: But when I was pulling back in the driveway..I was goofing around and did a burnout and fucked the motor mount...whole engine twisted sideways and blew a hole in the upper radiator hose...oh well easy fix..better here than at moonrocks saturday. Need to get a steering stabilizer..was trying to upload the photos but camera is being a little bitch!!!

[Connect]

I have a rancho 7000 SS slightly used I got for mine, but it ended up being too long so Its sitting around. Yours if you want it.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

IS IT GONNA LAST MORE THAN 9 1/2 MINUTES AT THE MOONROCKS THIS TIME???

[BIG BLUE]

IS IT GONNA LAST MORE THAN 9 1/2 MINUTES AT THE MOONROCKS THIS TIME???If its anything like my sex life i am gonna hve to say no...besides the bronco lasted longer than that..well if you included the unload time and time i sat around bullshitting first...your always such ah hater.:Big Grin: And connect I sure could use that steering stabilizer..let me know.

[BIG BLUE]

heres some photos..just needs paint

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep013.jpg

and heres some pics of the engine shift...damn 4cyl has too much power:eek: :eek:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep014.jpg

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and my hack job driveshaft...has a little wobble...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep019.jpg

[jeeper89]

looks good

[dane]

Cute Jeep BB, now all you need are some real axles, a bigger motor, some links, and big boy tires. I will trade you these things for some ability to drive!!!!

Dane

[BIG BLUE]

Well I found ut I need to trim more sheetmetal and get a stronger power sterring line. Flexed okay, maybe a little stiff in the front and too much sag in the rear. Gonna get a 2" helper spring.
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[BIG BLUE]

ran partts of fordyce and it did pretty good, then got throttle happy on an off-camber rock section and since I cheated and cut the spring pack reatiners off they shifted and i bent the rear springs and shocks....
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and off course the front steering tierod got bent..no shocker there.

So the plan is to go with heims and .250 dom tube for the steering. Build a new leaf pack, build new spring pads that are for 2-2/2" springs rather than 3" and put those clamps back on. Also the front springs were a little stiff. I want to replace those heavy duty ford bronco springs with a set of springs from a tj. the ford springs were from a procomp kit with a 6" lift so I need someone who was a lift kit to please measure there front springs so I can get an idea of how close they are in length. Once these things are fixed I think it will flex even better than it did. Poser shot for flex purposes now....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/trails/fordyce/pix061507_10.jpg

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sorry they are blurry they were takin with a camera phone!

[Connect]

and since I cheated and cut the spring pack reatiners off they shifted and i bent the rear springs and shocks

Well what did you think was going to happen? :Big Grin: I guess you really do need those little things! :tongue: :rolleyes:

Definatly needs some softer coils. If you are going to redo the rear why not just link the damn thing? You are skilled enough.

[L.D.]

Well what did you think was going to happen? :Big Grin: I guess you really do need those little things! :tongue: :rolleyes:

Definatly needs some softer coils. If you are going to redo the rear why not just link the damn thing? You are skilled enough.

MAN:Big Grin:, I THINK WE ALL HAD TO LEARN THAT ONE THE HARD WAY :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Actually I didnt cut them off to gain flex, I took the front and rear spring packs and combined them into one set and the retainers were rivited in the springs so i had to grind them off. Then in my eagerness to go I forgot to swing by totally offroad and get some....but I remembered pretty quick when that happeened...it has like homer simpson says so well "daoooo":Big Grin: Plus I need to get some bumb stops for the rear and trim some more sheetmetal. I also might link the rear cause I found a guy selling some Rock Crawler Jeep Wrangler TJ 4" lift kit coil springs so I might so go ahead and do the rear.

[BIG BLUE]

quick update just bought the set of four for a hundred bucks...so that should help. If not Ican resell them to some one else looking to lift their tj. :Big Grin:

[Connect]

Sweet, buy some joints and metal and get to work ripping out the crappy leaves! Maybe extend the wheelbase a little more too?

[BIG BLUE]

Defiantly gonna extend it a few inchs...now I am regretting not getting the comp corners...I will probably leave the crappy leaves for now and start building the ford 9" and set it up for the rear coils and four link suspension.been building a shoping list on Ballastic fabs website. Where is a good place to get heim Joints??? Quick calculations I come up with sixteen...not just for the rear but for the front too...maybe eighteen if I redo the way the radius arms mount to the frame.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Defiantly gonna extend it a few inchs...now I am regretting not getting the comp corners...I will probably leave the crappy leaves for now and start building the ford 9" and set it up for the rear coils and four link suspension.been building a shoping list on Ballastic fabs website. Where is a good place to get heim Joints??? Quick calculations I come up with sixteen...not just for the rear but for the front too...maybe eighteen if I redo the way the radius arms mount to the frame.

I BOUGHT ALL THE HEIMS FOR THE LO-BUDGET PIMPIN FROM BALLISTIC...THEIR LOWER LINE HEIMS ARE GOOD QUALITY AND THE PRICE IS DECENT TOO!!!!IIF I AM GOING TO USE 3/4 HEIMS I GET THE 3/4s WITH THE 5/8THS HOLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE MATERIAL AROUND THE BALL.

[Connect]

Most people don't go with heims on anything short of a buggy, I guess they don't have a good track record for reliability and length of life on a street driven rig.

I'm going to be going with Summit machine flex joints on mine, Samco sells'em for $30 a pop http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8923

Summit machines jimmy joints are like a heim on steroids, for more flex then you could ever imagine, check'em out! I'd rockem http://summitmachine.com/index.php?p=customParts&cp=jj

[BIG BLUE]

I was watching one of those 4wd shows and they were talking about the jimmy joints and they are very impressive. The jeep gets street driven but isnt a daily driver. So heim joints should work fine. The only thing i dont like about the flex joints is there is no adjusting them for fine tuning...once the tube is cut thats it...I like the idea of being able to tweak my links a little....not sure if I ever would though....hmm decisions decisions...

[Connect]

The only thing i dont like about the flex joints is there is no adjusting them for fine tuning...once the tube is cut thats it...I like the idea of being able to tweak my links a little....not sure if I ever would though....hmm decisions decisions...

That's if you weld it together! Most come with a threaded shank (or you weld one on) that like a heim joint you can adjust if need be. If that is your only reason.... :)

[BIG BLUE]

Okay I understand. Spoke with Sam and he advised me the same path so Ill take your guys advice and run with it. He says he has some ballastic parts too from another project that fell thru so I might be able to get most of everything I need from him.

[L.D.]

BLUE, I HAVE A SET OF THE BALISTIC COIL SPRING PERCHES I'M NOT GOING TO USE STILL IN THE BOX. COME HAVE A LOOK ?

[BIG BLUE]

Which ones are they? I was looking at getting the ones that were like a three in one setup...had the shock mount, link mount and the spring perch...but I guess it doesnt matter too much. Shoot me a pm and I can swing by saturday if your around.

[BIG BLUE]

so i got my new springs today...gonna try and get them in the front before this weekend. They look good and are about two inchs longer than what I have in there so hoping that once they settle down they will be the same height....

[BIG BLUE]

and here are the rear springs I pulled out after fordyce...

[BIG BLUE]

Just got my new shocks and was wondering what the thoughts are on mounting them....straight up and down? at a 45....I dont want them to hit the springs again.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

THE MORE YOU LEAN THE SHOCKS THE LESS EFFECTIVE THEY ARE!!!!BUT YOU DO GAIN TRAVEL....SO THE BEST THING YOU COULD DO IS GET NEW SHOCKS,RAMP IT AND SEE HOW THEY WILL FIT,WITHOUT TOO MUCH LEAN IF POSSIBLE!!!!

[Reno Computer Repair]

Post up some more pics Blue!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

Post up some more pics Blue!!!!

there are some coming....big shocker I broke my steering..sad things is I did it in camp. I had a serious DEE DEE DEE moment AND SMACKED RIGHT INTO A ROCK! It was only like eight feet tall so I am not sure how I didnt mess it. I used RarecJ8 portable welder to fix it up...i need on of those. So new steering to be going in ASAP!!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

Okay so the jeep needs some TLC....big question is should i leave the steering box i have on there and move it back and mount it higher...or should i get a box from a jeep comanche which has the same bolt battern but pitman arm faces backwards and then relocate the track bar? Also in the rear I keep wrapping my rear springs and bending the shocks...so I need to see if it makes sense to stay with 2.5 jeep springs or upgrade and make new mounts to go to 3" springs...and if i do get new mounts where should i get them from??? And secondly the jeep will get a new motor this winter...I have a v-6 from a 1989 dodge dakota with about 65000 miles on it, a ax-15 tranny and np231...its a tbi. I was thinking of swapping this in....what do you all think? Or should I just go with some sort of small block combo???

[jeeper89]

Okay so the jeep needs some TLC....big question is should i leave the steering box i have on there and move it back and mount it higher...or should i get a box from a jeep comanche which has the same bolt battern but pitman arm faces backwards and then relocate the track bar? Also in the rear I keep wrapping my rear springs and bending the shocks...so I need to see if it makes sense to stay with 2.5 jeep springs or upgrade and make new mounts to go to 3" springs...and if i do get new mounts where should i get them from??? And secondly the jeep will get a new motor this winter...I have a v-6 from a 1989 dodge dakota with about 65000 miles on it, a ax-15 tranny and np231...its a tbi. I was thinking of swapping this in....what do you all think? Or should I just go with some sort of small block combo???

for the rear.. why not build a ladder bar to stop the springs from wraping

[BIG BLUE]

Actually I shouldnt use the term wrapping...the spring plates and ubolts are from the bronco and are for a 3" springs so there is a 1/4 on each side of the spring allowing them the twist out of postion and then the main spring wraps around the lower springs...I did have spring retainers on but the failed.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/trails/fordyce/pix061607_18.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/trails/fordyce/pix061607_19.jpg

I plan to go to coils this winter so was think of something easy for the next few months...still got those springs Jeeper89???? What is the common thought on coils vs springs in the rear? If i do go to 3" spring perches I plan to shift the rearend back some more...well I plan to do that if I go with coils....but since I dont have a tow rig I drive my jeep to the trail head so I am really thinking of which had better on roads charataristics while still having off road flex....

[jeeper89]

yep i still have those 4" lift springs

[BIG BLUE]

We have to get together one weekend to see how they would work. I am basically using stock lift springs with the front and rear pack combined for a little extra lift...not sure how the 4" springs would affect the ride height. Plus i plan to take out the bronco springs in the front and replace them with the 4.5" tj springs i got so the might lower the front even more.....maybe i should bring the front springs with me and we can swap everything in you nice pretty shop and see how it all flexs with your forklift????:Big Grin:

[jeeper89]

We have to get together one weekend to see how they would work. I am basically using stock lift springs with the front and rear pack combined for a little extra lift...not sure how the 4" springs would affect the ride height. Plus i plan to take out the bronco springs in the front and replace them with the 4.5" tj springs i got so the might lower the front even more.....maybe i should bring the front springs with me and we can swap everything in you nice pretty shop and see how it all flexs with your forklift????:Big Grin:

i dont mind helping... but.. i dont have the forklift anymore.. i have a tractor with some fork attachments.. but i dont think its big enough to lift a jeep.. maybe a samurai... let me know what you want to do and i will help

[BIG BLUE]

i dont mind helping... but.. i dont have the forklift anymore.. i have a tractor with some fork attachments.. but i dont think its big enough to lift a jeep.. maybe a samurai... let me know what you want to do and i will help

dang that sucks...guess Ill just have to trail test it then.....guess I should have took you up on the offer to use the forklift a few months ago....maybe Ill go down to TOR and use their ramp!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

IF YOU ARE GONNA LINK IT WITH COILS,COPY A TJ OR GET THE KIT FROM POLYPERFORMANCE....

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=2389&cat=582&page=1

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=2390&cat=582&page=1

[BIG BLUE]

i like the way the front flexs now...although i might cut the ford ends off and replace them with threaded bungs and heim joints so I can dial it in a lttle better, but that rear kit looks like what I need...although I still would have to get the mounts for the springs and shocks. hmmm decisions decisions....is it really that much better with rear coils?

[jeeper89]

the best thing to do.. would to apply for TRG card.. i hear they even made you one already:eek:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/jeeper89/TRGCARDBB.jpg

[Connect]

the best thing to do.. would to apply for TRG card.. i hear they even made you one already:eek:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/jeeper89/TRGCARDBB.jpg

Wheres that accepted and how much is my credit limit? :Big Grin:

[Dnmeistr]

I'm glad your Jeep can only do 45 mph because I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that heep on the freeway. Your fabrication skills would make a redknecks hack job look pimp :Big Grin: What are you doing with a forward facing pitman arm when the axle is in the stock location, either move the axle forward or get the correct box, actually scratch that and give it to me because I want to move my axle forward :Smile:

And what the $&@# are you doing using 3" spring plates with 2.5" springs and no you don't want to use 4" springs SOA unless you want to look down on truckers :tongue: use a set of front Wagoneer springs for the rear axle and cut the coil springs up front to level it out if you have to.

No more hack jobs for you, we are going to start giving out the cow bell award for most broken parts on the trail :smash:

[BIG BLUE]

Ill see what I can find today at PNP. and for the record the speedo says 45-50 but everyone that has followed me says im doing 55-60...so there. Thanks for the input and I am the worlds greatest redneck fabber. And I am working on my hack jobs as we speak.....:Big Grin:

[Dnmeistr]

55-60 that is even scarrier especially with what your steering looks like, a dogleg right :clap:

[BIG BLUE]

heres a couple pics of the new paint job...oh yeah rattle can baby...and yeah thats a girly sticker there baby!!
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeeprun090307002.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeeprun090307001.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeeprun090307048.jpg

looks like the motor may have been cracked for a while. I looked at the huge chunk that fell off and it was worn...all the rods are still intack and it still runs...weird...so untill my new v6 shows up probably wont be any updates...hope to get it in time for some snow wheeling!!!!

[jeeper89]

from a distance.. that "girly sticker" looks like a bird crapped on your rig:eek:

[Lumpy]

from a distance.. that "girly sticker" looks like a bird crapped on your rig:eek:

IF YOU READ THE STICKERS IT SAYS BIG BLUE CRAP :Big Grin:

[Connect]

Paint looks good....

But I think the front axle need to be pushed forward a good 3"??? Correct me if I'm wrong or it just looks wrong. Ever gonna put in the front 4" lift coils?

[BIG BLUE]

I plan to move the axle forward...I wasnt gonna do anything for now but since the engine blew once I take it out I am gonna move the suspension and everything and see how it works with the heavier springs since the motor will be heavier...if still too stiff I will swap springs.

[BIG BLUE]

IF YOU READ THE STICKERS IT SAYS BIG BLUE CRAP :Big Grin:

no it doesnt lier pants!!!!!! Its says BIG BLUE is the pimp of Reno!!!!

[Lumpy]

no it doesnt lier pants!!!!!! Its says BIG BLUE is the pimp of Reno!!!!

OH!!!!!!!!!! YOUR RIGHT WHAT WAS I THINKING:eek: LOOKS GOOD THOUGH I KNOW A GUY WITH A 302 WITH A BLOWER :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

OH!!!!!!!!!! YOUR RIGHT WHAT WAS I THINKING:eek: LOOKS GOOD THOUGH I KNOW A GUY WITH A 302 WITH A BLOWER :Big Grin:

I think my dana 44 would puke its guts at the site of that...i already break enough shit with a 4 banger. I got a v6 from a 1989 dodge going in. its throttle body.

[Lumpy]

I think my dana 44 would puke its guts at the site of that...i already break enough shit with a 4 banger. I got a v6 from a 1989 dodge going in. its throttle body.

OH COME AWN WHERES YOUR SENCE OF ADVENTURE :Big Grin: I THOUGHT YOU WERE IN THE MARKET FOR ROCKWELLS?

[BIG BLUE]

started pulling the motor today...see any problems with the old one????

[BIG BLUE]

couple more of the progress...

[jeeper89]

why pull it.. just plug the hole with cardboard and jb weld.. then you dont have to swap motors:rolleyes:

[BIG BLUE]

it was only a matter of time before that 4 cylinder gave up...it had 175000 or so....:eek:

[Reno Computer Repair]

Holy Shit!!! When did that happen?

Do you need a hand (or two) on the weekends?

[BIG BLUE]

right now i am pulling it at my leisure since I dont have the replacement yet. Replacevment is a 3.9l v-6...This one is throttle body. I i got the whole front of the jeep apart in about a an hour but pulling and un-wrapping all the wiring is taking the longest time...not chopping anything off yet as not sure yet goes to what and what will be reused.....cutting later is easier the splicing back in.

[BIG BLUE]

So got the offical word today, motor is ready for me to pick up. Gonna drive down there at the end of the month. It is mated to a np535 and a np231D. Whats the vedict on those two units? Np535 is a 3.79 and np231d is a 2.72. And I need to get a new computer for it. Its a 1989 dodge dakota v-6 with a 5 speed and had cali emisions.

[BIG BLUE]

Just a few more updates. Going this weekend to get the v-6. So just been doing some things to correct some of the booty fab issues....relocated the shock mount on the front and installed the tj springs...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3661.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3666.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3669.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3671.jpg

[BIG BLUE]

Pulled motor out....
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3672.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3676.jpg

[BIG BLUE]

Relocated the rear shocks too....
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3687.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3691.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3693.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrade1/IMG_3695.jpg

[1SAWB]

LOOKIN GOOD :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

New motor is in...I just need to start wiring it and I need to get a new radiator...the inlet and outlets are opposite...heater was on the other side and battery was in the front of the truck...so just a few bugs to work out:Big Grin:

[jeeper89]

couldnt you have at least washed it and painted it before you put it in:rolleyes: anyways looks good

[MR.ROCKAPE]

I THINK YOU ARE GONNA NEED TO MAKE 7-8 OFF ROAD TRIPS BEFORE YOU ARE GONNA GET INVITED TO AN OFFICIAL ROCKGODS.COM RUN(UNLESS YOU CAN GET MARK TO FOLLOW YOU WITH THE OFFICIAL BIG BLUE SERVICE CJ8!!!!) !!!!:mullet:

AND I AM REALLY DIGG'N THAT ENGINE SLING.....LDs SCHOOL(BUS) OF BOOTY FAB TOOLS HAS REALLY PAID OFF!!!!

[ONX]

(UNLESS YOU CAN GET MARK TO FOLLOW YOU WITH THE OFFICIAL BIG BLUE SERVICE CJ8!!!!)

where can I find pics of Said CJ-8? thats my favorite type of jeep

[BIG BLUE]

couldnt you have at least washed it and painted it before you put it in:rolleyes: anyways looks good

now why would I do that? Havent you seen the rest of the jeep...this way it looks like its always been there...and I think Mark is gonna be avoiding me on future trails runs....for the cj8 look up member rarecj8...or email him he loves to chat about his rig. :Big Grin:

And I hope it makes it to 7-8 runs....last time it only made two!

[jeeper89]

where can I find pics of Said CJ-8? thats my favorite type of jeep


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSC03396.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSC02629.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSC02650.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSC02632.jpg

[jeeper89]

now why would I do that? Havent you seen the rest of the jeep...this way it looks like its always been there...and I think Mark is gonna be avoiding me on future trails runs....for the cj8 look up member rarecj8...or email him he loves to chat about his rig. :Big Grin:

And I hope it makes it to 7-8 runs....last time it only made two!

i think its time you pay rockape to build you a rig that works more then twice:eek:

[ONX]

tight rig

[BIG BLUE]

Who knew they could stuff so much wiring under the dash of a jeep...and that crap is zip tied like every two inchs...what a friggin pain and no two connectors are hooked together the same way....does anyone know where I can get a piece of sheetmetal to make a new dash???

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Who knew they could stuff so much wiring under the dash of a jeep...and that crap is zip tied like every two inchs...what a friggin pain and no two connectors are hooked together the same way....does anyone know where I can get a piece of sheetmetal to make a new dash???

:eek::confused::popcorn::66::107::33::afraid:<----PRETTY MUCH THE STORY......IT GOES... REALLY??,CONFUSED,IM GONNA GET SOME POPCORN AND WATCH THIS,I BET HE GETS A BLACK EYE(OR SHOULD),JUST WAIT ITS GONNA EXPLODE,IT WILL NEVER WORK,BE AFRAID!!!!!

AND METAL MASTERS WILL SELL YA A PIECE OF WHATEVER YOU WANT.....DONT STEAL STOP SIGNS THEY ARENT WIDE ENOUGH.....(NOT EVEN FOR A TOYOTA....OR SO LD SAYS!!!):cool:

[BIG BLUE]

what was that even english....and Ill put the stop signs back...plus they smell bad when you try welding them together....

[BIG BLUE]

I think this v-6 is gonna work out nice in the jeep and then in december I am gonna get that 2 speed stak box and replace my np231 and fianally have a real nice crawl ratio.....

[MR.ROCKAPE]

what was that even english....

NO ITS CHI-NEGRO...IM BRUSHING UP FOR THE INVASION!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

oh I thought it was like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ-A7cRNQN8

[BIG BLUE]

I have been working on the wiring today and have run out of ideas...I have spliced like wires with like wires but still no juice to distributor....Who knows wiring or who is good at putting 2 and 2 together...I have no spark right now and am not sure what else to do...there are three wires going into the distributor and one has power and the other two dont...HELP ME!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

well i got it running today...pouring gas in the carb..i just cant get the tbi to respond...at one point nothing then went to full wide open just dumping gas in the carb..so i think ill switch to an old fashinoed carb till i can figure it out.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

TRY THIS GUY.....

http://www.affordable-fuel-injection.com/tbi-wiring-harness.htm

I WOULDNT BOTHER WITH A CARB ON A V-6 AS THEY ARE A PAIN TO GET TO RUN RIGHT!!!SINCE 90% OF CARBS ARE TOO BIG!!!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

HERE I GOT THIS....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIRING.jpg

WHATS SO HARD ABOUT THAT????:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

LOOKY HERE....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602740&highlight=3.9+TBI

SOUNDS LIKE THAT GUY COULD HELP YA???

[MR.ROCKAPE]

THESE GUYS SAY ITS EASY....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428571&highlight=3.9+TBI

[BIG BLUE]

HERE I GOT THIS....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/rockape81/WIRING.jpg

WHATS SO HARD ABOUT THAT????:Big Grin:

sweet that the one i was looking for!! I found others but none that labeled it so nice and clear. I realy didnt want to go to a carb but i would rather have a ruuning rig...and the 1987 all came with carbs. But maybe i can study this diagram and see if I can get it to work as is!! Thanks APE!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

sweet that the one i was looking for!! I found others but none that labeled it so nice and clear. I realy didnt want to go to a carb but i would rather have a ruuning rig...and the 1987 all came with carbs. But maybe i can study this diagram and see if I can get it to work as is!! Thanks APE!

NOW JUST---->:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[BIG BLUE]

still no luck on getting the tbi to respond...dont know if the computer is bad or if the injectors are bad....just dont seem to have power to the injectors...I put a test light to the injectors and cranked the motor over but nothing...am i going about it wrong? i bought the computer off ebay and they guy and 1000s of positives so I dont think he sold me a bad computer considering everything else works..maybe the injectors just no good?? the engine sat for eight years...arrggh i am out of ideas....

[BIG BLUE]

well damn if it didnt turn out to be a missed ground wire...it was inside the plastic loom..i hooked it up and poof I got power to everything..I have new injectors on oreder once those go in I have my finger crossed that that was the problem...then I just need to finish welding up all mounts and get a correct radiator and life will be good

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Who knew they could stuff so much wiring under the dash of a jeep...and that crap is zip tied like every two inchs...what a friggin pain and no two connectors are hooked together the same way....does anyone know where I can get a piece of sheetmetal to make a new dash???

gimmie some measurements and I can get you some.. I have a 4x10 sheet of 18 ga. that should work for your dash... just send me a measurement of what you want/need...

[Connect]

gimmie some measurements and I can get you some.. I have a 4x10 sheet of 18 ga. that should work for your dash... just send me a measurement of what you want/need...

Better yet, I'll cut you out a dash with a big cawk in the middle, like Foggers!!! :frown:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Better yet, I'll cut you out a dash with a big cawk in the middle, like Foggers!!! :frown:

DONT DO THAT....BIG BLUE WILL REAREND SOMEONE BECAUSE HE CANT TAKE HIS EYES OFF OF IT!!!

[MIGHTYRAM97]

DONT DO THAT....BIG BLUE WILL REAREND SOMEONE BECAUSE HE CANT TAKE HIS EYES OFF OF IT!!!

Better yet, I'll cut you out a dash with a big cawk in the middle, like Foggers!!! :frown:

Big Cawk-N- Rainbows !!! then he'll be like :eek::40::8::booty::wackit::04::thmasturbanana::ja ck:

[RokZJ]

I've saw how mightyram cuts metal it might end up with rainbows init. :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

no way mighty ram has a friend that has a louver machine so thats all there would be just a few holes for some gauges and then the rest would just be louvers....that would be sweet!!! Ill get some measurements tonight. Ordered the new injectors last night and I have Friday off so I might be able to hit up a trail this weeekend....sweet!

[jeeper89]

are you just going to make a flat dash???

[BIG BLUE]

yup just a plain jane flat dash just put in a few gauges. And the monitors for my cameras....shh thats secret though!!!

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Hurry up with the measurements and make sure it's a lady measurin that way it's right...:eek:

Just let me know hw much you need and if it needs holes punched in it and what size etc...

[BIG BLUE]

true my measurements tend to be exagerrated....like when I say I have twelve inchs....uh....nevermind
Ill get some mearurements tommorrow. I am finsih up all the little things right now while I wait for my injectors.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

IS THIS THING DONE???:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Really close. I just need to get a new breakline and the radiator. I have to put the transfer case in tonight and hookup the drivelines. I had to take the front half of the dakota np231 and mate it with the jeep backhalf since the input shafts were different and the dakota output shaft wasnt splined all the way so I coudnt use the slip yoke eliminator kit I had...so I got me a hybird np231. I have to wire up lights and all that good stuff but it doesnt have to be done right away....hoping to have it all together this week and make a prison run this weekend.

[BIG BLUE]

well add drivelines to the list of needed items...I moved the v6 forward about two inches to try and keep the weight balanced over the front...hence I need a shorter front and longer rear....I will do those tonight and then fab a new mount for the tranny or redrill the stock jeep skidplate and then I just need to install the radiator and clean up some of the wiring...its gets kinda tedious and annoying when you start getting towards the end...mentally your brain jumps into overdrive trying to run down things you need to do, double check or could have forgot to do....:Big Grin: It should last longer than a couple of trail runs this time!!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

...its gets kinda tedious and annoying when you start getting towards the end...mentally your brain jumps into overdrive trying to run down things you need to do, double check or could have forgot to do....:Big Grin: It should last longer than a couple of trail runs this time!!

WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!!EXCEPT X5!!!!:cool:

[BIG BLUE]

Well got the drivleines done...had to shorten the fron 3" and lenghten the rear about 2-1/2"...shortening isnt too bad but lengthen is a pain...lucky I had tube laying around that was the right size. Now all that is left is the transmission mount and radiator...and some misc wiring for headlights and taillights but I finally see some light at the end of the tunnel.:Big Grin:

[redneck6]

sweet when your done you wanna bring it by so i can steal ideas , and you can do mine lol .:Big Grin:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

hey broke balls.. did ya get any measurements for that plate you need yet fawker !!! :Big Grin: I am gonna order the heims for my rig after the 1st of the year and get back to crackalactin on my build...:Big Grin: :13:

[BIG BLUE]

hey broke balls.. did ya get any measurements for that plate you need yet fawker !!! :Big Grin: I am gonna order the heims for my rig after the 1st of the year and get back to crackalactin on my build...:Big Grin: :13:

A buddy of mine just dropped of a 6' x 5' sheet of plate to me. Does anyone know if there is anywhere I can find a template that I can print out here at work so I can cut it out with the plasma torch? Then I can mount my guages and fix my front axle and go wheel! Alsi since i am tiring of trcing wiring and plan to just wire my lights thru a switch should I run them thru any sort of relay or just run a hot from the battery to the seitch and then to the lights?

[redneck6]

i would suggest a relay as lights pull some amps not near ass much as driving lights but enough , you could get away with not using a reley but have to run mando wire .:Big Grin: ps am i still able to use your hoist as i am geting ready to gut the yj of its anarexic motor and start mocking and or placing that 350 .:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

i would suggest a relay as lights pull some amps not near ass much as driving lights but enough , you could get away with not using a reley but have to run mando wire .:Big Grin: ps am i still able to use your hoist as i am geting ready to gut the yj of its anarexic motor and start mocking and or placing that 350 .:Big Grin:

yeah you sure can, its just sitting there causing me to either bang my head on it cause i dindt realize my daughter cranked it way up or trip over cause i drank too many beers and I'm not paying attention.

[redneck6]

i may be makinging a trip to fallon tonight is there any way i can stop by and pick it up this evening or would you rather drag it to reno ? :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

I should be home. feel free to swing by

[BIG BLUE]

so i got the jeep out and took it for a drive and it runs like shit. i checked the timing..seems on. any other ideas?

[MIGHTYRAM97]

so i got the jeep out and took it for a drive and it runs like shit. i checked the timing..seems on. any other ideas?

:rolleyes: YEAH... YOU OWN IT....:eek: :laughing::laughat::24::popcorn::107:

[BIG BLUE]

:rolleyes: YEAH... YOU OWN IT....:eek: :laughing::laughat::24::popcorn::107:

I got a big FU to send you buddy....hahaha you may be on too something though!

[MIGHTYRAM97]

I got a big FU to send you buddy....hahaha you may be on too something though!

:eek: is someone a little...:backdoor::thbananahump::thspank:...butth urt :laughat::laughing::rofl:

Hey at least you're wheelin your shit !!! I'm typing mine !!!:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

No not buthurt I learned to ignore you a long time ago...:wink:
Got the problem solved!!! There was a bad connection to one of the injectors so sometimes it was working other times not....So now it runs great. I can even spark the tires!! Now I just need to cut the dash and wire the gauges and lights and fix the front axle. And its off to prison hill for a little test run!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

SO NOW IT DOESNT RUN LIKE BIG BLUE BUILT IT???AND REWIRING THE DASH SOUNDS LIKE A FIRE READY TO HAPPEN!!!!KEEP ALOT OF WATER HANDY SO WHEN IT STARTS TO BURN YOU CAN STAND IN IT A GET THAT ELECTRIC CHAIR FEELING!!!!:tongue:

[BIG BLUE]

SO NOW IT DOESNT RUN LIKE BIG BLUE BUILT IT???AND REWIRING THE DASH SOUNDS LIKE A FIRE READY TO HAPPEN!!!!KEEP ALOT OF WATER HANDY SO WHEN IT STARTS TO BURN YOU CAN STAND IN IT A GET THAT ELECTRIC CHAIR FEELING!!!!:tongue:

Nope It doesnt run like I built it more like STV! I am not rewiring the dash just gonna cut out a new one and add the gauges...I think I should be able to handle that. Gotta get it done quick before 1sawb remebers he loanded me his plasma and wants it back....I wonder if I pee my pants from excitement that it runs will that short out my seat heaters???

[BIG BLUE]

well its a lot better than it was before...now i need to fix my front axle and try it on the trail...day run cause i still havent wired lights

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finally lifted...

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[wix]

You ought to set up an oil derek in your drive way!

[MR.ROCKAPE]

You ought to set up an oil derek in your drive way!

OR AT LEAST GET SOME SEA GULLS AND BABY SEALS TO SOAK IT UP!!!!

[xjmoser]

OR AT LEAST GET SOME SEA GULLS AND BABY SEALS TO SOAK IT UP!!!!

:laughing::laugh:

[BIG BLUE]

yeah my front driver axle broken so the seal is shot...i parked it on the ramp for a few hours so i could mark up the places it hit and i got a nice surprise...oh well if i soak it all up ill use it for my next oil change. So i guess my ramp flex sucked...oh well not sure what else to do to get more flex other than some drop shackles...:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

WTF???ARE YOU BUILDING A RAMP QUEEN???DID THAT ONCE AND FIGURED OUT THAT ALL IT WAS GOOD FOR WAS WINNING THE RTI COMP AT SUMMIT RACINGs (NOW DEFUNCT)TRUCK FEST.LOCKERS IS WHAT USUALLY GET YOU THERE NOT MAD FLEX.(EVEN THOUGH THE TRUGGY WILL STILL OUT FLEX THAT THING......:mullet: )

[BIG BLUE]

WTF???ARE YOU BUILDING A RAMP QUEEN???DID THAT ONCE AND FIGURED OUT THAT ALL IT WAS GOOD FOR WAS WINNING THE RTI COMP AT SUMMIT RACINGs (NOW DEFUNCT)TRUCK FEST.LOCKERS IS WHAT USUALLY GET YOU THERE NOT MAD FLEX.(EVEN THOUGH THE TRUGGY WILL STILL OUT FLEX THAT THING......:mullet: )

wow your bitchy lately did the old lady cut you off again...yeah and the truggy has more money in shocks than I have in the rig...so I would hope so! No but i was just seeing how it compared to the old flex...dont really care too much about the ramp but it does give an idea of what still rubs without having to be on the trail and go damn I ll have to do that later.....

[redneck6]

looking good maybe by 2010 me you and ld and rockape can go wheel lol :Big Grin:

[Sierra Valley]

Looks good man, be nice when it gets done.

[BIG BLUE]

just have to do something with the dash and gauges and wire headlights and i am ready to rock and roll!!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

So i just ordered some alloy chromo axles ahfts for the dana 44 from Don at TOR! Said those should be in around Wenesday. Dash is all installed, so have lights left to wire and its trail time!:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

So i just ordered some alloy chromo axles ahfts for the dana 44 from Don at TOR! Said those should be in around Wenesday. Dash is all installed, so have lights left to wire and its trail time!:Big Grin:

MAYBE A SNOW RUN NEXT WEEKEND???DEC 22ND OR 23RD???DOG VALLEY MIGHT HAVE SOME CHALLENGES!!!!OR PEAVINE???

[BIG BLUE]

Well i bite the bullet and since I couldnt find anyone that makes harnesses for my application I dove right in with a razor blade a sixpack and wire clippers and some very blurry wiring diagrams and some very vague ones from autozone and ripped the wiring out of the jeep....sorry for crappy pics but real camera died so these are camera phone...and yes i am doing theis job in my bedroom cause i dont have any benchs or anything setup at my new house nad got tired of kneeling down on the concrete floor...besides this is how its done in Ferntucky!

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrades/0505081931a.jpg
wow what a cluster fuck.....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrades/0506081818a.jpg
see above comment....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/BigBlue89/jeep/jeep%20upgrades/0506081820a.jpg
Side of harness that goes into jeep. Notice all the wires that are bent back are not used.....wow:eek:

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Side that plugs into computer...notice all the unused wires...there is like 12 that are used...too many damn sensors on these motors....

[BIG BLUE]

Well Werty came over and redid the wiring harness and cleaned it all up. Although for some reason it wont start through the switch any more. I can jumper past the relay and it will. Got a new relay and still nothing. So I think Ill just bypass the relay and use a push button for the starter. Also ordered my new computer today as PNP has been no help. Got another bum computer from them today so I just bite the bullet. Hopefully it will mae it before this weekend as I would love to hit up moonrocks. :Big Grin:

[Sierra Valley]

Get that pile running already. Plus I'd like to see you break your shit this weekend.

[BIG BLUE]

Get that pile running already. Plus I'd like to see you break your shit this weekend.

If the computer shows Ill be happy to go break some parts....if not ill be happy to break them another time....we all know when I wheel something is gonna go boom!

[BIG BLUE]

well didnt do much other than get all the wiring finally fixed..jeep runs good a little on the rich side. I think thats due to too much fuel pressure. I plan to relocate the back axle back 6 inchs which means I need to get a fuel cell so I plan to do all that in one shot and then Ill add a fuel pressure regulator and bring the pressure down.
I added some buckets and 5 point harnesses to the back for my kids.
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Added some rear shocks towers...good in theory....but minor issue
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EPIC FAIL!!!!
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[Connect]

No wonder your neighbors hate you and steel your axles!!!

[BIG BLUE]

naw my neighbors love me...they trip out on the ramp......but stealing my axles does suck!

Besides I live in Ferntucky....if you dont like it dont move next to me!!!:gapteeth:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

:eek: What else would you expect......:rolleyes:


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[MIGHTYRAM97]

Well, since it's broke.... mine as well fix it !!! He's stretching the reat of the rig w/ xj springs. and plan on refabbing the front half of the frame with a limitied budget we'll make it work well. some pics of the stretch job :cool:





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[MIGHTYRAM97]

con't
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[Connect]

It brings the booty in booty fab :Smile:

[slvrbck]

Is there gonna be any more beefing up for those shackle mounts??

[Sierra Valley]

Geez, looks much worse than what you were describing. I think you should of started with the front end first!:Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Booty fab..damn whats a brotha gotta do to get some love around here. Im actually pretty happy with the way its going. Still needs some tlc with the grinder and some bushings since none of the ones I have will fit. And I have to install the fuel cell this week.

yeah im gonna be gusseting and plating the shackle mounts. It was cold yesterday and friggin windy...made for a not so fun fab day.
The front goes under the knife next weekend.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

HEY THAT FAB WORK IS COOL........I JUST COULDNT FIGURE OUT HOW YOU MADE THE TWISTED RAIL LOOK LIKE THE BACK WHEN YOU WERE DONE!!!!MUST BE A FERNLEY THING!!!!

[Connect]

Booty fab..damn whats a brotha gotta do to get some love around here. Im actually pretty happy with the way its going. Still needs some tlc with the grinder and some bushings since none of the ones I have will fit. And I have to install the fuel cell this week.

yeah im gonna be gusseting and plating the shackle mounts. It was cold yesterday and friggin windy...made for a not so fun fab day.
The front goes under the knife next weekend.

Just imagine how much you'd get flamed for if you weren't trying to fix it or try to wheel it? :rolleyes:

It does look like you may have been at/near or in the general vicinity of a mud bug when the incident occured... -3% HC points!

[BIG BLUE]

thats cause there are no bushings in shackle mount, its not bolted to the axle and the other side is raised...damn. Seriously im beginning to think im never ever gonna get any love from you guys....thats it im gonna go sit on the other side of the playground and eat my lunch with the smelly kid and the chick that snorts when she laughs at least they will accept me. Or I could go post on renochitchat and confuse them...

[BIG BLUE]

Just imagine how much you'd get flamed for if you weren't trying to fix it or try to wheel it? :rolleyes:

It does look like you may have been at/near or in the general vicinity of a mud bug when the incident occured... -3% HC points!

Sad thing is that is from that hollister run in November, the jeep has made three trips to the power washer and mud still keeps falling out from places i didnt know could even hold mud....im glad nevada is sand. it washes off easy!

[DiscoveryXD]

I hear yah on the crappy weather yesterday.... I was going to start on my front shock towers but that darn wind was miserable. It reminded me that I need to get another spool of flux cored wire though :gapteeth:

[Sierra Valley]

I hear yah on the crappy weather yesterday....

Pussys! I got a bunch done on my engine yesterday and thought the weather was decent until the sun went down. Then I closed the garage door and turned on the heater.:Big Grin:
I did enjoy the weather a bit more today while wrenching on the heep.

[BIG BLUE]

Well it brings the suck since I didnt put it in the garage...too much fun annoying the HOA! Installing the tank tommorrow and then on to the front. Gonna move the front axle forward a few inchs too. Right now It was 102" so Im looking at 105-6" when Im done.:Big Grin:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Is there gonna be any more beefing up for those shackle mounts??

YES, I spoke to Blue about that issue and I'd rather him overkill it than not, He is going to make gussets for the top and bottom that way it takes the stress off that section (it is rolled 1/4") but I told him it's wayyyy too much stress for that and it would break. I'm gonna help him hopefully this w/e and get that rear section buttoned up and get it ready for the front end...

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Well it brings the suck since I didnt put it in the garage...too much fun annoying the HOA! Installing the tank tommorrow and then on to the front. Gonna move the front axle forward a few inchs too. Right now It was 102" so Im looking at 105-6" when Im done.:Big Grin:

I'd say shoot for 105".... did ya do anymore work the last couple of days ???:Big Grin:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

It brings the booty in booty fab :Smile:

Don't fret cuntneckt dis brotha gon hook dat nigga up and set him straight. an I'z gon help him get all :thgrinpimp: on tha cheap...:nervous:.:laugh:

[DiscoveryXD]

So who ran those beads???? :mullet:

[BIG BLUE]

Working on a few more things...someone remind me why i didnt buy comp corners right from the beginning....:Big Grin:

[Sierra Valley]

Looks good Jeremy. So whats all left to get this back in action? Looks like we might actually get to go wheelin this summer!

[BIG BLUE]

Looks good Jeremy. So whats all left to get this back in action? Looks like we might actually get to go wheelin this summer!

I still got the front to do...just taking my time so maybe i can wheel for more than two trips at a time...we havent had our jeeps running at the same time since mine was stock..:eek:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

SO WERE YOU WORRIED SLVRBCK WAS GETTING TO USE THE SAWZALL AND YOU WERENT???

SHOW US THE FRONT END FIX.....ENGINE SWAP AND SOME WHEELING!!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

naw sawzalls scare me and dont really like 3/16"...I went old school with a torch and cutoff wheel...since this weeknd is easter and I have to go to my parents I wont do the front till next week...then Ill be back on trail. Since both madrooster and box4rocks dont have any kits right now the doubler is on hold...

[slvrbck]

SO WERE YOU WORRIED SLVRBCK WAS GETTING TO USE THE SAWZALL AND YOU WERENT???

SHOW US THE FRONT END FIX.....ENGINE SWAP AND SOME WHEELING!!!!!

The sawzall is a very important tool in my garage!! Bad thing is, right when I started chopping this thing up, my poor old sawzall died on me. The rest has been done with a cut off wheel!! I need to grab a new one......they have damn near unlimited uses!!

Ima have to swing thru on the way to Reno one day and check out your rig Jeremy!!!

[BIG BLUE]

aw sawzall withdrawls are the worst....it took me weeks to just not squeeze the trigger everytime I walked past mine in the shop...the sweet sound of buzzing metal....damn I need to find a meeting quick!!!!

[BIG BLUE]

Got my fuel cell installed and hooked up...and started the jeep to make sure it works...it does. Yippy
Same tank as Wix but this one is a 20 gallon. I modified the pump so I have two pickups rather than one.

[wix]

Dont know if you plan on it or not, but I would get some straps to hold that thing down. With a full tank it wont take much to rip those little tabs off the cell. I like how you did your pickups I need to add that to the list.

[trupster415]

i like the pick up idea also but there is one problem with it tho. if your low on fuel and and leaning hard to one side or the other or turning fast it will suck air if not submerged in fuel

[BIG BLUE]

ya, I was thinking the same thing,but one side will always be in the fuel so I thought it would balance out, and that was why I went with the larger fuel filters to hopefully to compensate for momentary situations. Now if im crawling along on my side all bets off. I guess I will find out in real life huh cause you can make anything work on paper.
Also I was thinking about recessing the tank so that it is flush with the sides and I can put a cover across it to keep the fuel line protected better and to clean up the look.

[BIG BLUE]

:gapteeth:
Need to lengthen the driveline but gonna wait till I redo the fron cause I plan to move the motor forward a few inchs.

[BIG BLUE]

and ya ya ya Im still learning to weld so bite me, I know they are ugly but hey Ill get better. I hope!!!!

[xjmoser]

and ya ya ya Im still learning to weld so bite me, I know they are ugly but hey Ill get better. I hope!!!!

But when they look like that you should move the camera back a bit......like to the back yard!!!!

[Robicon]

That's OK, if nothing else at least they make me feel better about my welds :gapteeth:

[BIG BLUE]

well glad to make yall fell better about yourselfs. This is the first time i have ever used a mig so I really dont know what to do. I probably should hit those with the grinder to make em look nicer but if they hold what the heck does it matter. And the guy responsible for doing the nice welding never showed up so I was either gonna just not finish the rear or deal with ugly welds..I guess its easy to see what I choose!

[BIG BLUE]

getting closer to being done....

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ARE YOU AND IZZY RELATED???I SWEAR YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO GET THE "DARWIN AWARD" FOR SAFE YARD WRENCHING!!!!:gapteeth:

OH AND IM GLAD YOU ARENT MY NEIGHBOR........AND I GOT 20 CARS!!!!:mullet:

IM THINKING YOU MAY WANT SOMEONE THAT DOESNT MAKE WELDS THAT LOOK LIKE AN EAGLE FLEW OVER AND POOP'D IT BACK TOGETHER TO HOOK YOU UP!!!!:eek:

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Thanks Ape... my eagle poop welds hold tho....:booty::fuckyou: It may not be as :thgrinpimp::thbling: as the Pimpin rig, but hopefully this time his junk will hold together...

[BIG BLUE]

ARE YOU AND IZZY RELATED???I SWEAR YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO GET THE "DARWIN AWARD" FOR SAFE YARD WRENCHING!!!!:gapteeth:

OH AND IM GLAD YOU ARENT MY NEIGHBOR........AND I GOT 20 CARS!!!!:mullet:

IM THINKING YOU MAY WANT SOMEONE THAT DOESNT MAKE WELDS THAT LOOK LIKE AN EAGLE FLEW OVER AND POOP'D IT BACK TOGETHER TO HOOK YOU UP!!!!:eek:

Well I dont know know where to get super tall jackstands. Not all of us have bling lifts in our shop..or even have a shop for that matter. :frown:Anyways I clean up good once im done and untill then the neighbors dont seem to mind much..and no one lives in the four houses across the street. And as long as it holds I really dont care if I win the show and shine award.

[Sierra Valley]

Good to see some progress. Dont listen to Mr. Cool:rolleyes:

[BIG BLUE]

I got a bunch done last night but forgot my camera. Completely pulled the interior out so I can paint it the right way and working on the wiring to clean it up. Gonna paint the cage and installing my 4 point harnesses. Hopefully this weekend me and Raji can get it all finished for the most part. Waiting on some brackets for the front springs. Then I need to lengthen my drive shafts. Hopefully ill get to rebuild the motor before the reno rocks events so i dont smoke the crowd out...

[NoBrainR]

As far as your fuel cell pick ups, Holley used to make a universal multi point pick up. Every once in a while you can find one laying around. Part # 12-951. Here's one listing

http://www.karbelt.com/clearance.html

[BIG BLUE]

More booty fab commin straight from Ferntucky...

[MIGHTYRAM97]

Here's a few pics from yesterday... Lookin good Blue..:gapteeth:

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[BIG BLUE]

did a bunch more this weekend..hot outside brings the suck with grinding and welding..

[Connect]

Is the axle going farther forward then in the last picture?

[BIG BLUE]

I had it forward, even with the end of the frame but ran into problems with the steering..I need a really short pitman arm. Or i need to figure out a way to mount the steering a little different. If I move the axle forward then the arm is actually at an angle behind the tie rod and I think it will bind. I was looking at the kit from ballastic fab that I may be able to mount the arm on top rather than in front. If not I am gonna make new lower coil mounts that will move the springs forward. Other than my not so pretty welding I am happy with those brackets you did for me.

Was thinking about this...

[Connect]

Get a ram, and an orbital, tap your PS pump and go full hydro. No more steering problems!

[BIG BLUE]

Well i would go full hydro but I still drive this jeep on the streets alot and am not sure how that affects high speed handling? Second is funds...which right now I am in a severe lack of....

[BIG BLUE]

On a quick thought...do drag links have to be staright? Or can the incorporate bend in them? I saw some from Procomp or skyjacker and wasnt sure if its a good or bad idea..If it is acceptable then I could move my front axle back to even with the end of the frame..something like this

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ITS OK IF ITS A SHORT DISTANCE.....BUT I THINK BY PRE-BENDING STEERING LINKAGE THAT SPANS A GOOD DISTANCE YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE!!!!

[trupster415]

at least get a flat top knuckle and use a cross over steering arm

[Hardcore-CashMoney]

The factory JK ones are bent, but I would think it depends on how much of a bend you need. Those shocktower/spring mounts are pimp :Big Grin:

[BIG BLUE]

Well I think I might just do what ballastic shows in that pic...that would solve most of the issues. I would only need a slight bend but its about a 30" length...and the towers would be super pimp if I was better at welding, but each day I am getting closer starting to see little c welds and not just big old booger gobs...working on steering mount right now and then make some new lower mounts and then driveshafts and I should be back on the road.

[BIG BLUE]

Is there anywhere local to get this? Or does anyone have any? Looking to swap to heims for my steering..can get a kit minus tube for like 150...or go with the ballastic kit which includes tube for like 260...

[Connect]

Cockape might have some 1.5" .25 wall left, I know he was running low and it ain't cheap. If not, wait for it... TFab should have some... :wink:

[BIG BLUE]

Cockape might have some 1.5" .25 wall left, I know he was running low and it ain't cheap. If not, wait for it... TFab should have some... :wink:

Well Ill wait for Rockape to chime in..ballastic is selling it for....10.20 a foot:eek:

it is possible that T-fab might have some but since my last project I took to them wasnt in their bling bling dollar category I was regulated to the back of the bus..and I dont know if Derek keeps anything in stock that is smaller than 3" I have seen his Link arms...:wink:

Seriously I would have thought that a fab shop with a torchmate table (that he was bragging all about on you tube) might be able to actually use it to cut parts for a paying customer..damn what an idiot I was...lol and now that the twins are here :rolleyes:....I want my rig done before 2010..lol Just messin with you T-fab slackers...

So what size is better for stering? 3/4 or 7/8? Maybe someone could pop here and recomend which kit would be the best...
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Full-Steering-Kits_c_113.html

this is what Im looking to do...