welded 14 bolt

[jeeper89]

im going to weld my 14 bolt carrier.. i just dont know where i should do it. i have read some things that say they welded the carrier with it since you dont really need to save it.. what have you guys done?
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[L.D.]

BOUGHT A SPOOL, IT IS EASYER AND STRONGER

[Connect]

I heard alot of people weld the spiders, and then weld the spiders to the carrier. If you check out billavistas 14b build it'll go into the details more.

[jeeper89]

from 14 bolt bible
These pics are of the carrier removed. Mine is fully welded up making it a huge spool. I have read about some folks just welding the spider / side gears by filing in the valley's between the teeth and then reinstalling them. I personally have never understood this. It's not as if you need to save the carrier, since they are cheap and extremely plentiful. Also, I would think that in this manner, those welds would see quite a bit of shock loading. It's also a real bugger to reassemble the carrier and gears after you have just welded up the teeth and are trying to save the carrier.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/DCP_6493.JPG
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/DCP_6495.JPG

[jeeper89]

but do i just keep te carrier in one piece and weld them together? or do i weld the spiders up first.. install it.. then weld them to the carrier?

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ON MY TWO SEATER I JUST FILLED A FEW OF THE TEETH OF THE SIDE GEARS!!!I WANTED TO SAVE THE CARRIER BECAUSE A MINI SPOOL DROPS RIGHT IN IF I SOME HOW BREAK THE SPIDERS.

[jeeper89]

did you shove some metal in the spiders too??? or just weld

[MR.ROCKAPE]

did you shove some metal in the spiders too??? or just weld

JUST WELD...AND THEY HAVE HELD UP TO NOTHING BUT HARDCORE RUNS SO FAR!!!!WHEN BOTH WHEELS ARE OFF OF THE GROUND THERE IS SOME MOVEMENT IN THEM BUT THE HAVENT FAILED YET!!!!I JUST TURNED MY WELDER UP TO BLITZKRIEG AND MELTED SOME METAL!!!!

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE TACK THE SPIDERS ALL TOGETHER,MAKE SURE THE CARRIER STILL FITS AND THEN REMOVE AND WELD THE HELL OUT OF THEM!!!!

[jeeper89]

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE TACK THE SPIDERS ALL TOGETHER,MAKE SURE THE CARRIER STILL FITS AND THEN REMOVE AND WELD THE HELL OUT OF THEM!!!!

ill do this one to make sure its good.. but i guess if it does not work.. i have another one sitting in my back yard:Big Grin: and can get another one from work and i bet PNP has them... tomorrows project:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ill do this one to make sure its good.. but i guess if it does not work.. i have another one sitting in my back yard:Big Grin: and can get another one from work and i bet PNP has them... tomorrows project:Big Grin:

WELL EITHER WAY ITS GOOD TECH FOR SOMEONE WHO HASNT DONE IT!!!I DID IT THE WAY THAT WAS EASIEST...I JUST WANTED THAT THING DONE!!!KINDA LIKE HOW I FEEL NOW AFTER WELDING FOR 3 HOURS AND STILL ONLY BEING MAYBE 50% DONE WITH THE CHASSIS!!!!I STILL GOT THE AXLES AND LINKS TO DO!!!!:frown:

KEEP US POSTED......IM LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER BUILD ....OTHER THAN MY JUNK ON HERE!!!!

[jeeper89]

WELL EITHER WAY ITS GOOD TECH FOR SOMEONE WHO HASNT DONE IT!!!I DID IT THE WAY THAT WAS EASIEST...I JUST WANTED THAT THING DONE!!!KINDA LIKE HOW I FEEL NOW AFTER WELDING FOR 3 HOURS AND STILL ONLY BEING MAYBE 50% DONE WITH THE CHASSIS!!!!I STILL GOT THE AXLES AND LINKS TO DO!!!!:frown:

KEEP US POSTED......IM LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER BUILD ....OTHER THAN MY JUNK ON HERE!!!!

i am still waiting on a friend to lend me his plasma cutter so i can chop up the bed. then i will start the rear cage part and throw the axles under it when i get them set up(what im working on now)

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i am still waiting on a friend to lend me his plasma cutter so i can chop up the bed. then i will start the rear cage part and throw the axles under it when i get them set up(what im working on now)

AHHH YES THE PLASMA IS THE PREFERRED DECONSTRUCTION TOOL!!!!

[jeeper89]

AHHH YES THE PLASMA IS THE PREFERRED DECONSTRUCTION TOOL!!!!

i could do it with the grinder and a cut off wheel and or the torch.. but a plasma makes it so much faster and cleaner:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i could do it with the grinder and a cut off wheel and or the torch.. but a plasma makes it so much faster and cleaner:Big Grin:


WHEN THROTTLE REPO'D HIS MILLER I WENT AND GOT THE HYPERTHERM 1000!!!SAYS IT WILL CUT 1 1/4 !!!!!MORE MACHINE THAN ILL EVER NEED BUT IT IS BARELY WORKING TO DO THE MAX 1/4 INCH PLATE I USE!!!!OF COARSE AT OVER 2Gs IT BETTER PERFORM!!!!

[jeeper89]

WHEN THROTRLE REPO'D HIS MILLER I WENT AND GOT THE HYPERTHERM 1000!!!SAYS IT WILL CUT 1 1/4 !!!!!MORE MACHINE THAN ILL EVER NEED BUT IT IS BARELY WORKING TO DO THE MAX 1/4 INCH PLATE I USE!!!!OF COARSE AT OVER 2Gs IT BETTER PERFORM!!!!

yea.... i dont have that kind of money to spend on one:rolleyes:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

yea.... i dont have that kind of money to spend on one:rolleyes:

ME EITHER.....THE ASIAN BOUGHT IT!!!!

[jeeper89]

ME EITHER.....THE ASIAN BOUGHT IT!!!!

i dont have me an asian to buy me things:wink:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

i dont have me an asian to buy me things:wink:

THEY ARE KINDA HARD TO UNDERSTAND....BUT ONCE YOU DO,ITS ALL WORTH IT!!!!:tease::tease::tease:

[Connect]

You could always go with the proven Oxy/Acet setup on the cheap. That and there are "HOMEMADE" plasma cutters out there and cheap off brands.

Pretty interesting actually (40 amp plasma cutter at less then $300) to try out.

[jeeper89]

You could always go with the proven Oxy/Acet setup on the cheap. That and there are "HOMEMADE" plasma cutters out there and cheap off brands.

Pretty interesting actually (40 amp plasma cutter at less then $300) to try out.

yea... i have a torch.. but it still takes alot of time.. and the cut is never all that good no matter how hard i try. i was looking at that one on pirate and was thinking about buying it.. it would probably be the most used thing in the shop besides the welder. guess when i get more money i will buy that tool next

[jeeper89]

i have it all welded up now.. now i gotta get some gears :Big Grin: