Oil priming a sitting motor?

[werty]

After 6months of sitting the 4.3l in my Toyota is ready to fire up. should i turn it over for a little while to get the oil pressure up then try to get it started? Or should I pull the distributor and drill prime it? The oil cooler, remote oil filter, and lines will hold about 2 quarts.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

THE RIGHT WAY IS TO PULL THE DISTRIBUTER....BUT IF YOU ARE NOT WANTING TO FIGHT THAT HEADACHE...MAYBE JUST PULL THE PLUGS AND SPIN IT WITH THE STARTER FOR A MINUTE AND DROP THEM BACK IN...IM SURE IT WONT HURT ANYTHING!!!!THE BIG BLOCK IN MY CAMARO SOMETIMES SITS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS......I USUALLY JUST CRANK IT WITHOUT THE COIL WIRE UNTIL THE OIL GAUGE COMES UP...THEN FIRE IT UP!!!!

[1SAWB]

THE RIGHT WAY IS TO PULL THE DISTRIBUTER....BUT IF YOU ARE NOT WANTING TO FIGHT THAT HEADACHE...MAYBE JUST PULL THE PLUGS AND SPIN IT WITH THE STARTER FOR A MINUTE AND DROP THEM BACK IN...IM SURE IT WONT HURT ANYTHING!!!!THE BIG BLOCK IN MY CAMARO SOMETIMES SITS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS......I USUALLY JUST CRANK IT WITHOUT THE COIL WIRE UNTIL THE OIL GAUGE COMES UP...THEN FIRE IT UP!!!!

THAT HAS TO BE THE SCARIEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN A LONG TIME. WITH TODAYS OIL BEING CRAP I WOULD NEVER EVER USE THIS METHOD WITH A FLAT TAPPET CAM. IF IT WAS A ROLLER MAYBE BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO PULL THE DIST, AND GET AN OIL PUMP PRIMER AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY

[MR.ROCKAPE]

THAT HAS TO BE THE SCARIEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN A LONG TIME. WITH TODAYS OIL BEING CRAP I WOULD NEVER EVER USE THIS METHOD WITH A FLAT TAPPET CAM. IF IT WAS A ROLLER MAYBE BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO PULL THE DIST, AND GET AN OIL PUMP PRIMER AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY

OK.....NOW GO REREAD HIS POST......4.3 CHEVY???AND YOU DONT THINK CARS ARE BUILT THE DAY BEFORE YOU BUY ONE DO YA????ENGINES CAN SIT AROUND BUILT FOR YEARS BEFORE THEY MAKE IT INTO YOUR BRAND NEW CAR.....DO YOU THINK THEY PRE-LUBE THEM????

[MR.ROCKAPE]

.......AND,WHAT IF HE HAD A 22R???HOW WOULD YOU PRE-LUBE THAT ONE???ISNT THE OIL PUMP TURNED BY THE CRANK???OH YEAH.....GUESS YA GOTTA SPIN THE CRANK!!!(MOST ENGINES THESE DAYS ARE THIS WAY.....INCL THE LS1 CHEVYS!!!!)

WITH MY FLEET.....(YEAH FLEET!!!)OF GM MUSCLE IM NOT PULLING THE DIST EVERY TIME ANY OF THEM SIT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME!!!!AND HAVENT LOST ONE YET!!!

[NVScouter]

OK.....NOW GO REREAD HIS POST......4.3 CHEVY???AND YOU DONT THINK CARS ARE BUILT THE DAY BEFORE YOU BUY ONE DO YA????ENGINES CAN SIT AROUND BUILT FOR YEARS BEFORE THEY MAKE IT INTO YOUR BRAND NEW CAR.....DO YOU THINK THEY PRE-LUBE THEM????

No but they have a shitton of heay assembly lube on them that keeps them lubed for extended periods of time.

That being said I'm used to fawking with engines that sit for years/decades and I do this:

Pull plugs inserts 5-10ccs of Marvel Mystery Oil.

Reinstall plugs.

Pull valve covers, visual inspection coat with whatever thinish oil you have (5-30W or whatever) and let it over night.

Next AM fire rotate engine by hand a few times then that sucker up!

[werty]

I watch a 350 get started that was sitting for a year and a half last weekend. All he did was pull the ignition wire for a minute cranked it over till oil pressure was about 20psi then fired it up. I seen them prime big blocks on the hot rod shows. right before they start them, but those are fresh motors. Not a 150k 4.3l that was fired 6months ago.

[1SAWB]

OK.....NOW GO REREAD HIS POST......4.3 CHEVY???AND YOU DONT THINK CARS ARE BUILT THE DAY BEFORE YOU BUY ONE DO YA????ENGINES CAN SIT AROUND BUILT FOR YEARS BEFORE THEY MAKE IT INTO YOUR BRAND NEW CAR.....DO YOU THINK THEY PRE-LUBE THEM????


TOTAL BULL SHIT RIGHT THERE. ENGINES ARE STUFFED INTO CARS RIGHT AWAY. CRATE ENGINES SIT AROUND AND THEY SAY TO PRE LUBE THEM. AND MOST ARE ROLLER TOO. WITH A TOYOTA I WOULD PULL THE VALVE COVER AND DUMP OIL ALL OVER THE CAM ECT AND THEN GET IT RUNNING ASAP.

[1SAWB]

I watch a 350 get started that was sitting for a year and a half last weekend. All he did was pull the ignition wire for a minute cranked it over till oil pressure was about 20psi then fired it up. I seen them prime big blocks on the hot rod shows. right before they start them, but those are fresh motors. Not a 150k 4.3l that was fired 6months ago.

START THE STOP WATCH NOW. ITS A MATTER OF TIME. WHEN I START SHIT THAT HAS BEEN SITTING AND I HAVE NO WAY OF PRIMMING THE PUMP I ALWAYS. STATIC TIME IT FIRST. IF ITS A CARB I FILL THE FLOAT BOWL WITH FUEL AND FIRE IT ASAP AND GET THE RPM'S UP SO THE LIFTERS WILL SPIN ( FLAT TAPPET)

[MR.ROCKAPE]

TOTAL BULL SHIT RIGHT THERE. ENGINES ARE STUFFED INTO CARS RIGHT AWAY. CRATE ENGINES SIT AROUND AND THEY SAY TO PRE LUBE THEM. AND MOST ARE ROLLER TOO. WITH A TOYOTA I WOULD PULL THE VALVE COVER AND DUMP OIL ALL OVER THE CAM ECT AND THEN GET IT RUNNING ASAP.

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKE'N???ENGINES GET ASSEMBLED SOMEWHERE ELSE...RARELY AT THE ASSEMBLY PLANT WHERE THE CARS ARE PUT TOGETHER!!!!

I HAPPEN TO HAVE AN UNCLE THAT WORKS AT A GM ASSEMBLY PLANT IN DETRIOT......HE SAYS ENGINES CAN SIT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER!!!!

TIME TO GET YOUR PANTIES OUTTA A WAD........:thisthreadsucks:

[werty]

hey 1sawb do you have a drill primer?

[rusty_tlc]

It's stuff like this that makes me glad I drive a tractor. My 40 sat for 18 months. The 2F fired right up and the lifters quited down within a few seconds. Good thing I didn't know I was going to ruin my engine.:rolleyes:

Domestic cars aside, how long do you think it takes to get a car from Japan to the US on a container ship? Then how long before it gets to the midwest? I would say those engines sit for a fairly long time, I wonder if they screw with them before they load them on the transport trailer?

[1SAWB]

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKE'N???ENGINES GET ASSEMBLED SOMEWHERE ELSE...RARELY AT THE ASSEMBLY PLANT WHERE THE CARS ARE PUT TOGETHER!!!!

I HAPPEN TO HAVE AN UNCLE THAT WORKS AT A GM ASSEMBLY PLANT IN DETRIOT......HE SAYS ENGINES CAN SIT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER!!!!

TIME TO GET YOUR PANTIES OUTTA A WAD........:thisthreadsucks:



WELL IM SURE TO HIM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SIT THERE FOR MONTHS. AFTER ALL SWEEPING A FLOOR DOES GET BORING AFTER A WHILE FROM WHAT I'M TOLD. YES THE ENGINES DO GET ASSEMBLE AT ANOTHER PLANT BUT THEY HAVE TONS OF ASSY LUBE ON THEM. I WORK WITH AN ENGINEER HERE AT WORK THAT WORKED FOR GM AND HE STRONGLY DISAGREE'S TOO. AND ON TOP OF IT ALL WHEN IT COME'S TO GM I PROMISS THAT HE HAS WAY MORE KNOWLAGE IN HIS PINKY THEN WE BOTH HAVE TOGETHER



OH AND ALL NEWER SHIT IS ROLLER


PANTIES ARE OUT OF A BUNCH THANK YOUR WIFE FOR ME

NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC PULL THE DIST AND PRIME IT TO COVER YOUR ASS

[BIG BLUE]

WELL IM SURE TO HIM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SIT THERE FOR MONTHS. AFTER ALL SWEEPING A FLOOR DOES GET BORING AFTER A WHILE FROM WHAT I'M TOLD. YES THE ENGINES DO GET ASSEMBLE AT ANOTHER PLANT BUT THEY HAVE TONS OF ASSY LUBE ON THEM. I WORK WITH AN ENGINEER HERE AT WORK THAT WORKED FOR GM AND HE STRONGLY DISAGREE'S TOO. AND ON TOP OF IT ALL WHEN IT COME'S TO GM I PROMISS THAT HE HAS WAY MORE KNOWLAGE IN HIS PINKY THEN WE BOTH HAVE TOGETHER



OH AND ALL NEWER SHIT IS ROLLER


PANTIES ARE OUT OF A BUNCH THANK YOUR WIFE FOR ME

NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC PULL THE DIST AND PRIME IT TO COVER YOUR ASS
BUTTHEAD VOICE ON "HUH HUH YOU SAID YOU WEAR PANTIES" BUTTHEAD VOICE OFF....i SAY IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND DESIREE PULL THE DISTRIBUTOR...AND WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR OIL ADD SOME LUCAS OR SPEND THE MONEY AND GO ROYAL PURPLE...

[MR.ROCKAPE]

WELL IM SURE TO HIM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SIT THERE FOR MONTHS. AFTER ALL SWEEPING A FLOOR DOES GET BORING AFTER A WHILE FROM WHAT I'M TOLD. YES THE ENGINES DO GET ASSEMBLE AT ANOTHER PLANT BUT THEY HAVE TONS OF ASSY LUBE ON THEM. I WORK WITH AN ENGINEER HERE AT WORK THAT WORKED FOR GM AND HE STRONGLY DISAGREE'S TOO. AND ON TOP OF IT ALL WHEN IT COME'S TO GM I PROMISS THAT HE HAS WAY MORE KNOWLAGE IN HIS PINKY THEN WE BOTH HAVE TOGETHER



OH AND ALL NEWER SHIT IS ROLLER


PANTIES ARE OUT OF A BUNCH THANK YOUR WIFE FOR ME

NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC PULL THE DIST AND PRIME IT TO COVER YOUR ASS

:rolleyes:GUESS ILL JUST KEEP RUINING MY MOTORS THEN!!!

SO WHAT DOES YOUR FORMER GM IMAGIN-EER SAY FOR A LATE MODEL LSI CAMARO THATS BEEN SITTING???ITS OK BECAUSE IT HAS A ROLLER CAM???PULL THE VALVE COVERS AND POUR OIL ALL OVER THE VALVE TRAIN???(YEAH THATS AN EASY ONE ON THOSE CARS...:rolleyes:)???CANT SPIN THE OIL PUMP WITHOUT SPINNING THE CRANK......


THIS IS THE ORIGINAL REASON I SAID PULL THE PLUGS.....TO LET ANY CYLINDER PRESSURE OUT...AS WELL AS LET THE ENGINE TURN FASTER AND GET OIL PRESSURE QUICKER!!!

[1SAWB]

ITS A ROLLER......GET IT FIRED ASAP IDLE IS FASTER THEN CRANKING ANYDAY :Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ITS A ROLLER......GET IT FIRED ASAP IDLE IS FASTER THEN CRANKING ANYDAY :Big Grin:

HOW DO YOU KNOW SQUIRTIES 4.3 ISNT A ROLLER MOTOR???MY VORTEC 4.3s ARE!!!:thbling:

[1SAWB]

THE EARLY ONES WHERE NOT ROLLER. THATS WHY I SAID PRIME IT . IT WILL COVER YOUR ASS

[1SAWB]

THAT HAS TO BE THE SCARIEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN A LONG TIME. WITH TODAYS OIL BEING CRAP I WOULD NEVER EVER USE THIS METHOD WITH A FLAT TAPPET CAM. IF IT WAS A ROLLER MAYBE BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO PULL THE DIST, AND GET AN OIL PUMP PRIMER AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY



REREAD THIS FIRST POST

[werty]

thanks for the funny ass read between the two of you. I said fuck it and pulled the spark plugs, cranked it over for 30 seconds then put them back in it fired up and ran smooth after the air in the fuel lines cleared out

[MR.ROCKAPE]

thanks for the funny ass read between the two of you. I said fuck it and pulled the spark plugs, cranked it over for 30 seconds then put them back in it fired up and ran smooth after the air in the fuel lines cleared out

WAIT IT DIDNT EXPLODE???YOU MUSTA JUS GOT LUCKY.....:rolleyes:

[1SAWB]

GREAT HOPE IT LAST'S :Big Grin: AND THE WHOLE TIME THE LIFTERS WHERE RATTLING THATS A SIGN OF NO OIL. DUMB ASS'S

[1SAWB]

hey 1sawb do you have a drill primer?


YES

[MR.ROCKAPE]

GREAT HOPE IT LAST'S :Big Grin: AND THE WHOLE TIME THE LIFTERS WHERE RATTLING THATS A SIGN OF NO OIL. DUMB ASS'S:Crying::Crying::Crying:

HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE WHINEY-EST POST I HAVE EVER READ ON HERE......DID SOMEONE NOT FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE......AND HIS ENGINE LIVED(AS IT WILL FOR A LONG TIME....)???

FOUND A CLIP OF YA RIGHT AFTER YOU READ HE DIDNT LISTEN....

(KINDA BAD QUALITY.....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ide0NFj9arU&feature=related

:eek::eek::eek:

[werty]

Pulling the plugs helped out because I whe hearing some grinding from the starter. I had to add a .020 shim.

[BIG BLUE]

well to be honest my motor sat for 7 years....I drained the oil and added fresh oil and some lucas oil and just started the bitch....so it wont run for 200,000 miles...doubt the rest of my rig would last that long anyways.:Big Grin:

[1SAWB]

HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE WHINEY-EST POST I HAVE EVER READ ON HERE......DID SOMEONE NOT FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE......AND HIS ENGINE LIVED(AS IT WILL FOR A LONG TIME....)???

FOUND A CLIP OF YA RIGHT AFTER YOU READ HE DIDNT LISTEN....

(KINDA BAD QUALITY.....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ide0NFj9arU&feature=related

:eek::eek::eek:



HASN'T RAN LONG ENOUGH YET IF A CAM IS GOING FLAT IT CAN TAKE SOME TIME. THE NEW FLAT TAPPET CAMS ARE NITRITE'D AND THEY ARE STILL HAVING ISSUES GOING FLAT WITH TODAY'S JUNK OIL. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ?!!! ALL I SAID WAS TO DO IT CORRECTLY YOU NEED TO PULL THE DIST AND PRIME IT ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS A FLAT TAPPET CAM. ROLLER ISN'T THAN BIG OF DEAL. GET THE JIZ OUT OF YOUR EYE'S AND REREAD WHAT I WROTE. AND TRUTH BE KNOWN I COULD CARELESS IF YOU PUT A HAND FULL OF SAND IN THE ENGINE. THE ORIGINAL POST ASKED HOW TO DO IT AND I ANSWERED WITH THE CORRECT WAY TO DO IT. NOT THE SHADE TREE MECHANIC WAY THAT BOOMHOWER USES.IF WE WHERE TALKING AIRING UP A TIRE I WOULD SAY USE AN AIR COMPRESSOR AND AN AIR CHUCK. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO WRAP YOU LIPS AROUND THE VALVE STEM AND BLOW IT UP THEN THATS YOUR THING

[MR.ROCKAPE]

HASN'T RAN LONG ENOUGH YET IF A CAM IS GOING FLAT IT CAN TAKE SOME TIME. THE NEW FLAT TAPPET CAMS ARE NITRITE'D AND THEY ARE STILL HAVING ISSUES GOING FLAT WITH TODAY'S JUNK OIL. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ?!!! ALL I SAID WAS TO DO IT CORRECTLY YOU NEED TO PULL THE DIST AND PRIME IT ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS A FLAT TAPPET CAM. ROLLER ISN'T THAN BIG OF DEAL. GET THE JIZ OUT OF YOUR EYE'S AND REREAD WHAT I WROTE. AND TRUTH BE KNOWN I COULD CARELESS IF YOU PUT A HAND FULL OF SAND IN THE ENGINE. THE ORIGINAL POST ASKED HOW TO DO IT AND I ANSWERED WITH THE CORRECT WAY TO DO IT. NOT THE SHADE TREE MECHANIC WAY THAT BOOMHOWER USES.IF WE WHERE TALKING AIRING UP A TIRE I WOULD SAY USE AN AIR COMPRESSOR AND AN AIR CHUCK. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO WRAP YOU LIPS AROUND THE VALVE STEM AND BLOW IT UP THEN THATS YOUR THING

DO I NEED TO BRING THE PRESSURE WASHER FOR THAT SAND YA GOT PACKED TIGHT IN YO' MAN-GINE-UH???

IM PRETTY SURE TONS OF PEOPLE JUST FIRE UP SITTING ENGINES EVERYDAY WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT....WITH NO ADVERSE EFFECTS!!!!YEAH IN A PERFECT WORLD EVERY VEHICLE WOULD HAVE A PRE-LUBE SYSTEM THAT WOULD RUN BEFORE IT EVER LET YOU TRY TO START IT.....NO IT DOESNT HURT TO SPEND MORE TIME AND PULL THE DISTRIBUTER AND SPIN THE OIL PUMP IF ITS POSSIBLE!!!

AND...YOU KEEP SAYING NEWER OIL IS CRAP???WHY IS THAT???IF ITS SO CRAPPY WHY DO MOST MANUFACTURERS RUN 0W-20 AND 5W-20 VISCOSITYS IN THEIR NEWER ENGINES???AND NO I DONT RUN THAT THIN OF OIL IN MY CARS UNLESS IT IS RECOMMENDED....BUT CUSTOMER CARS GET IT ALL THE TIME!!!!

AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU ACTUALLY SAW A FLAT STOCK CAM???IN MY 15+ SMALL/BIG BLOCK POWERED RIDES I HAVE YET TO HAVE IT HAPPEN....STOCK OR MODIFIED,SOLID,ROLLER OR HYDRAULIC!!!NONE RUN SYNTHETIC!!!!:eek:

[1SAWB]

THE OIL'S TODAY ARE CRAP DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND OUT. THE OIL COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN OUT THE ZINC, ASH,AND PHOSPHATES FOR EMMISION'S. THE EPA WAS THE ONE'S MANDATING THIS AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT WITHOUT THE PUBLIC KNOWING. IN THE BEGINING OF ALL THIS THE O.E.M. GUY'S LIKE GM PUT OUT ADDITIVES FOR BETTER PROTECTION. GM'S VERSION WAS THE EASIEST TO GET AND IT WAS CALL E.O.S. ( ENGINE OIL SUPPLIMENT ) THEY SENT A BOTTLE WITH EVERY NEW CRATE ENGINE THAT HAD A FLAT TAPPET CAM.I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE PERFORMANCE INDUSTRY FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE. I HAVE BUILT CLOSE TO 100 ENGINES IN MY LIFE AND I HAVE YET TO HAVE A FAILURE. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE OIL MANUFACTURERS ON THE FRONT PAGE THERE WHERE PEOPLE ASKED WHY IS THE THRUST BEARING FAILING IN MY LS1 OR MUSTANG. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE MAKING BREAK IN OIL'S THAT HAVE HIGH ZINC AND PHOSPHATES LIKE BRAD PENN ( OLD KENDEL OIL) JOE GIBBS,AND A FEW OTHERS. I HAVE DONE QUIT A BIT OF RESEARCH FOR MY WORK AND I WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO E-MAIL IT TO YOU EVEN THOU MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. THE BEST OIL RIGHT NOW ON THE SHELF IS IS ROTELLA T BUT THEY HAVE TOLD EVEYONE THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME AND WILL SOON HAVE TO REMOVE MOST OF THE GOOD SHIT TO MEET THE EPA STANDARDS.

AS FOR YOUR NEW ENGINE REMARK AND THE OIL USED 0W-20 THATS BECAUSE THEY RUN TIGHTER AND ITS AN EASY WAY TO GET EMMISION'S DOWN




AND I TOUGHT MY PUSSY TO SPIT SO NO PSI WASHER NEEDED :eek:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

THE OIL'S TODAY ARE CRAP DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND OUT. THE OIL COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN OUT THE ZINC, ASH,AND PHOSPHATES FOR EMMISION'S. THE EPA WAS THE ONE'S MANDATING THIS AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT WITHOUT THE PUBLIC KNOWING. IN THE BEGINING OF ALL THIS THE O.E.M. GUY'S LIKE GM PUT OUT ADDITIVES FOR BETTER PROTECTION. GM'S VERSION WAS THE EASIEST TO GET AND IT WAS CALL E.O.S. ( ENGINE OIL SUPPLIMENT ) THEY SENT A BOTTLE WITH EVERY NEW CRATE ENGINE THAT HAD A FLAT TAPPET CAM.I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE PERFORMANCE INDUSTRY FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE. I HAVE BUILT CLOSE TO 100 ENGINES IN MY LIFE AND I HAVE YET TO HAVE A FAILURE. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE OIL MANUFACTURERS ON THE FRONT PAGE THERE WHERE PEOPLE ASKED WHY IS THE THRUST BEARING FAILING IN MY LS1 OR MUSTANG. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE MAKING BREAK IN OIL'S THAT HAVE HIGH ZINC AND PHOSPHATES LIKE BRAD PENN ( OLD KENDEL OIL) JOE GIBBS,AND A FEW OTHERS. I HAVE DONE QUIT A BIT OF RESEARCH FOR MY WORK AND I WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO E-MAIL IT TO YOU EVEN THOU MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. THE BEST OIL RIGHT NOW ON THE SHELF IS IS ROTELLA T BUT THEY HAVE TOLD EVEYONE THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME AND WILL SOON HAVE TO REMOVE MOST OF THE GOOD SHIT TO MEET THE EPA STANDARDS.



THATS STRANGE....WHEN EVER I TAKE APART AN OLD 60-70s SMALL BLOCK OR BIG BLOCK.....THEY USUALLY HAVE NASTY THICK SLUDGE IN THE LIFTER VALLEY.....BUT NEWER ENGINES DONT...MUST BE THAT BETTER OIL THEY USED BACK THEN!!!!:rolleyes:

[1SAWB]

THATS STRANGE....WHEN EVER I TAKE APART AN OLD 60-70s SMALL BLOCK OR BIG BLOCK.....THEY USUALLY HAVE NASTY THICK SLUDGE IN THE LIFTER VALLEY.....BUT NEWER ENGINES DONT...MUST BE THAT BETTER OIL THEY USED BACK THEN!!!!:rolleyes:


:eek: PLEASE TELL ME YOUR NOT REALY THAT DUMB.................PLEASE :eek:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

:eek: PLEASE TELL ME YOUR NOT REALY THAT DUMB.................PLEASE :eek:

:rolleyes:NO PLEASE EXPLAIN......


AND NO IM NOT REALLY THAT DUMB....BUT BEING YOU ARE MUCH SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US PLEASE ELABORATE!!!

[POOR BOY]

DO I NEED TO BRING THE PRESSURE WASHER FOR THAT SAND YA GOT PACKED TIGHT IN YO' MAN-GINE-UH???

IM PRETTY SURE TONS OF PEOPLE JUST FIRE UP SITTING ENGINES EVERYDAY WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT....WITH NO ADVERSE EFFECTS!!!!YEAH IN A PERFECT WORLD EVERY VEHICLE WOULD HAVE A PRE-LUBE SYSTEM THAT WOULD RUN BEFORE IT EVER LET YOU TRY TO START IT.....NO IT DOESNT HURT TO SPEND MORE TIME AND PULL THE DISTRIBUTER AND SPIN THE OIL PUMP IF ITS POSSIBLE!!!

AND...YOU KEEP SAYING NEWER OIL IS CRAP???WHY IS THAT???IF ITS SO CRAPPY WHY DO MOST MANUFACTURERS RUN 0W-20 AND 5W-20 VISCOSITYS IN THEIR NEWER ENGINES???AND NO I DONT RUN THAT THIN OF OIL IN MY CARS UNLESS IT IS RECOMMENDED....BUT CUSTOMER CARS GET IT ALL THE TIME!!!!

AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU ACTUALLY SAW A FLAT STOCK CAM???IN MY 15+ SMALL/BIG BLOCK POWERED RIDES I HAVE YET TO HAVE IT HAPPEN....STOCK OR MODIFIED,SOLID,ROLLER OR HYDRAULIC!!!NONE RUN SYNTHETIC!!!!:eek:
ok im not siding with anyone here but i see cams go flat all the time (keep in mind im talking flat tappet) they have removed alot of the zinc and things out of the oil because they say its bad on the cats, and the reason ive heard them runing the low wieght oils is because theres less drag on the surfaces and helps get the MPG up on there ratings. i really dislike synthetic oils because they just dont have the substence like a good potrolium oil. i run 20w-50 in all my rigs. and yes there are alot of spelling errors and no i dont have spell check:Big Grin:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

ok im not siding with anyone here but i see cams go flat all the time (keep in mind im talking flat tappet) they have removed alot of the zinc and things out of the oil because they say its bad on the cats, and the reason ive heard them runing the low wieght oils is because theres less drag on the surfaces and helps get the MPG up on there ratings. i really dislike synthetic oils because they just dont have the substence like a good potrolium oil. i run 20w-50 in all my rigs. and yes there are alot of spelling errors and no i dont have spell check:Big Grin:

GUESS THE PRECISION OF HONDA/TOYOTA/SUBARU JUST DOESNT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH FLAT CAMS....

AND NOTICE I SAID STOCK CAM.....GO FAST BIG CAMS WITH ALOT OF SPRING SEAT PRESSURE HAVE ALOT MORE PROBLEMS THAN STOCK STUFF,WITH OIL FILM NOT BEING THERE AFTER SITTING FOR EXTENDED PERIODS AND CREATING A FLAT CAM....BUT IM SURE SQUIRTIES 4.3 ISNT HI-PO....SO I FIGURED WE WERE TALKING STOCK!!!!

AND ALL I AM SAYING IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.....BUT I DO SEE A BIT MORE CARS THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON!!!AND OWN MORE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON....SO IFIGURED IF THIS WAS SUCH A PROBLEM I MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT BY NOW!!!!GUESS I SHOULD GO PLAY THE LOTTO,BECAUSE THE WAY IT SOUNDS I MUST BE THE LUCKIEST MUTHA-FAWKER AROUND!!!!

[1SAWB]

IT'S LIKE EXPLAINING PHYSIC'S TO A CHILD THEY JUST DON'T GET IT

[MR.ROCKAPE]

IT'S LIKE EXPLAINING PHYSIC'S TO A CHILD THEY JUST DON'T GET IT

OR LIKE TEACHING A TARD HOW TO SPELL.....

[POOR BOY]

GUESS THE PRECISION OF HONDA/TOYOTA/SUBARU JUST DOESNT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH FLAT CAMS....

AND NOTICE I SAID STOCK CAM.....GO FAST BIG CAMS WITH ALOT OF SPRING SEAT PRESSURE HAVE ALOT MORE PROBLEMS THAN STOCK STUFF,WITH OIL FILM NOT BEING THERE AFTER SITTING FOR EXTENDED PERIODS AND CREATING A FLAT CAM....BUT IM SURE SQUIRTIES 4.3 ISNT HI-PO....SO I FIGURED WE WERE TALKING STOCK!!!!

AND ALL I AM SAYING IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.....BUT I DO SEE A BIT MORE CARS THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON!!!AND OWN MORE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON....SO IFIGURED IF THIS WAS SUCH A PROBLEM I MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT BY NOW!!!!GUESS I SHOULD GO PLAY THE LOTTO,BECAUSE THE WAY IT SOUNDS I MUST BE THE LUCKIEST MUTHA-FAWKER AROUND!!!!

you are very right. i do actually have two stock cams that are flat that have came in one toyota 22r and one pontiac, you both bring very good points and yes squirties engine is stock.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

you are very right. i do actually have two stock cams that are flat that have came in one toyota 22r and one pontiac, you both bring very good points and yes squirties engine is stock.

IM NOT SAYING THAT WHATEVER ELSE IS BEING POSTED IS WRONG.....IM JUST DEFENDING MY POSITION FROM THE "DUMBEST POST" COMMENT....

AND SINCE 1SQWAB FEELS HE IS THE "GOD OF ENGINES" ITS FUN TO MAKE HIM PISSY!!!!XJMOSER HAS SHOWN ME THE WAY...WITH THREADS ABOUT SPARK PLUGS,ROTATING TIRES AND WIPER BLADES!!!:cool:

[POOR BOY]

IM NOT SAYING THAT WHATEVER ELSE IS BEING POSTED IS WRONG.....IM JUST DEFENDING MY POSITION FROM THE "DUMBEST POST" COMMENT....

AND SINCE 1SQWAB FEELS HE IS THE "GOD OF ENGINES" ITS FUN TO MAKE HIM PISSY!!!!XJMOSER HAS SHOWN ME THE WAY...WITH THREADS ABOUT SPARK PLUGS,ROTATING TIRES AND WIPER BLADES!!!:cool:

i got quite an education with that myself:laughing:

[1SAWB]

IM NOT SAYING THAT WHATEVER ELSE IS BEING POSTED IS WRONG.....IM JUST DEFENDING MY POSITION FROM THE "DUMBEST POST" COMMENT....

AND SINCE 1SQWAB FEELS HE IS THE "GOD OF ENGINES" ITS FUN TO MAKE HIM PISSY!!!!XJMOSER HAS SHOWN ME THE WAY...WITH THREADS ABOUT SPARK PLUGS,ROTATING TIRES AND WIPER BLADES!!!:cool:


NEVER SAID I WAS A GOD... CLOSE TO IT BUT NOT A GOD MORE LIKE AN IDOL. NOT PISSY IN ANYWAY AND IT IS FUNNY TO ME TOO. BUT I WILL DO THIS FOR YOU TODAY. LAKE SPEED JR WILL BE HERE FROM JOE GIBBS OIL AND I WILL BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO GET AS MUCH INFO FOR YOU AS I CAN. HE CALLED LAST NIGHT AND ASKED IF HE COULD COME OVER AND CHAT WITH US. SO FOR YOU I WILL DO THIS JUST TO EDUCATE YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE A LITTLE MORE. HELL IF I FEEL UP TO IT AND CAN MAKE THE TIME I WILL DO A TECH WRITE UP FOR THE MASSES. I DO HAVE A QUICK ONE THAT COMP CAMS PUT OUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO E-MAIL IT TO ANYONE. AND YES I SUCK AT SPELLING WHEN I'M TYPING FAST I NEVER PROOF READ SHIT UNLESS IT'S A LETER TO A CUSTOMER ( INSERT FLIP OFF HERE ) LOL

[1SAWB]

SO HE JUST WALKED THRU THE DOOR AND I WILL POST WHAT HE SAID

[1SAWB]

OK LAKE SPEED JUST LEFT AND HERE IS A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. I KNOW EVERYONE IS GOING TO SCREAM ITS NOT A RACE ENGINE BUT THIS WILL STILL APPLY TO FLAT TAPPET CAMS. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PROTECTION AND THE LACK OF IT IN TODAYS OIL. ENJOY http://www.joegibbsracingoil.com/Downloads/racingoil101.pdf I HAVE TONS MORE WHEN YOU ARE READY

[MR.ROCKAPE]

OK LAKE SPEED JUST LEFT AND HERE IS A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. I KNOW EVERYONE IS GOING TO SCREAM ITS NOT A RACE ENGINE BUT THIS WILL STILL APPLY TO FLAT TAPPET CAMS. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PROTECTION AND THE LACK OF IT IN TODAYS OIL. ENJOY http://www.joegibbsracingoil.com/Downloads/racingoil101.pdf I HAVE TONS MORE WHEN YOU ARE READY

GOOD INFO.....

ADD IT TO OUR TECH WRITE UP SECTION WITH ANY OTHER STUFF.....OIL TECHNOLOGY INFOMATION IS SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT SINCE EVERYTHING WE WHEEL NEEDS IT......(UNLESS YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL PASSENGER...THEN ITS NOT YOURS TO WORRY ABOUT!!!!:Big Grin:)

[1SAWB]

LAKE SPEED JUST SENT ME SO MUCH INFO ON OIL IT'S ABOUT TO MAKE MY HEAD EXPLODE. SO IF ANYONE WANTS THIS LET ME KNOW AND I WILL E-MAIL IT TO YOU

[MR.ROCKAPE]

HEY SHELDON.....

I WENT AND DID IT....I STARTED MY LAWN MOWER WITHOUT FIRST PULLING THE DISTRIBUTER,NO PRIMING OF THE OIL SYSTEM AT ALL.......ILL TELL MY WIFE TO WATCH FOR THE CAM GOING FLAT OR JUST ANY LOSS OF POWER WHILE SHE'S MOWING THE LAWN!!!!

OH AND ITS RUNNING THE SAME CRAP OIL IT HAS HAD SINCE I BOUGHT IT 7 YEARS AGO.......:mullet:

[POOR BOY]

HEY SHELDON.....

I WENT AND DID IT....I STARTED MY LAWN MOWER WITHOUT FIRST PULLING THE DISTRIBUTER,NO PRIMING OF THE OIL SYSTEM AT ALL.......ILL TELL MY WIFE TO WATCH FOR THE CAM GOING FLAT OR JUST ANY LOSS OF POWER WHILE SHE'S MOWING THE LAWN!!!!

OH AND ITS RUNNING THE SAME CRAP OIL IT HAS HAD SINCE I BOUGHT IT 7 YEARS AGO.......:mullet:

your lucky i cant get mine to mow the lawn:frown:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

your lucky i cant get mine to mow the lawn:frown:

WTF??ITS HER LAWN MOWER!!!GOT IT FOR HER BIRTHDAY!!!!:Big Grin:

[POOR BOY]

WTF??ITS HER LAWN MOWER!!!GOT IT FOR HER BIRTHDAY!!!!:Big Grin:

o thats how you do it " heres your birthday present i would love to see you use it?" hahahahahaha

[BIG BLUE]

thats exactly how you do it....thats why I bought my ex a hooker......let me see how you use that.....and I started my lawn motor and rotor tiller without pulling the plug or changing the oil or the air filter or......hhmmm what s that word oh yeah "matience".....scary so very scary but they still worked...wish the jeep was like that wrench for siz hours for a three minute load on the trailer three minutes off and 15 mins of everyone :24:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

o thats how you do it " heres your birthday present i would love to see you use it?" hahahahahaha

ITS WORKED WITH OTHER THINGS.....:04: ALSO!!!:cool:

[Hardcore-CashMoney]

HEY SHELDON.....

I WENT AND DID IT....I STARTED MY LAWN MOWER WITHOUT FIRST PULLING THE DISTRIBUTER,NO PRIMING OF THE OIL SYSTEM AT ALL.......ILL TELL MY WIFE TO WATCH FOR THE CAM GOING FLAT OR JUST ANY LOSS OF POWER WHILE SHE'S MOWING THE LAWN!!!!

OH AND ITS RUNNING THE SAME CRAP OIL IT HAS HAD SINCE I BOUGHT IT 7 YEARS AGO.......:mullet:

WTF i need to get a wife...i'm still paying some mexicans to do mine

[MR.ROCKAPE]

WTF i need to get a wife...i'm still paying some mexicans to do mine

THE TRICK IS FIND ONE THAT SOME ASS CLOWN HASNT RUINED BEFORE YOU!!!!HAD MINE SINCE SHE WAS 18!!!:cool: ITS NICE TO TRAIN THEM BEFORE THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!!!!

[Hardcore-CashMoney]

Ya i'm still working on that...you hit it right on the bullseye, the last 3 chicks i have tried to date had like mental issues from ex bf's and 2 of them were abusive bf's that shoulda been takin out in the desert and made them dig there own hole before you buried them.

[1SAWB]

HEY SHELDON.....

I WENT AND DID IT....I STARTED MY LAWN MOWER WITHOUT FIRST PULLING THE DISTRIBUTER,NO PRIMING OF THE OIL SYSTEM AT ALL.......ILL TELL MY WIFE TO WATCH FOR THE CAM GOING FLAT OR JUST ANY LOSS OF POWER WHILE SHE'S MOWING THE LAWN!!!!

OH AND ITS RUNNING THE SAME CRAP OIL IT HAS HAD SINCE I BOUGHT IT 7 YEARS AGO.......:mullet:



NOW THAT JUST SHOWS HOW IGNORANT YOU REALY ARE . LAWN MOWER'S DONT HAVE DISTRIBUTOR'S....................AND YOU HAVE A SHOP ( SHAKING HEAD ) WOW !!!! :MULLET:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

NOW THAT JUST SHOWS HOW IGNORANT YOU REALY ARE . LAWN MOWER'S DONT HAVE DISTRIBUTOR'S....................AND YOU HAVE A SHOP ( SHAKING HEAD ) WOW !!!! :MULLET:

ARE YOU SURE????SHIT I JUST WENT AND LOOKED...IT DOESNT HAVE A BATTERY OR ALTERNATOR EITHER....AND DAMMIT NO COIL....IT MUST RUN ON MAGIC.......(and you dont own a shop...good thing!!!)

SHOULDNT YOU BE OUT SELLING SOMETHING???:eek:

[BIG BLUE]

Dude were do you get a magic lawnmower??? Do they sell them at walmart...or do I have to go somewhere like lowes or sears?:Big Grin:

[1SAWB]

SHOULDNT YOU BE OUT SELLING SOMETHING???:eek:



NOPE MY PRODUCT SELLS ITSELF :Big Grin: