Turbo Chargers

[rusty_tlc]

How do turbo chargers work?

[BIG BLUE]

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm :rolleyes: google is your friend...lol Ive only had a turbo on a diesel and that cause ford put it there...wait I had on on an MR2...either way I dont care how they work just that they make you go FAST! Blumpkin actually has one installed on his jeep.

[rusty_tlc]

Since you still don't get it :rolleyes:, yeah I could google or search on Pirate or Mud and get answers to any question i might have. But I'd rather get answers from people on this board. People I know in an interweb kind of way.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Since you still don't get it :rolleyes:, yeah I could google or search on Pirate or Mud and get answers to any question i might have. But I'd rather get answers from people on this board. People I know in an interweb kind of way.

SIMPLE ANSWER....

THEY USE THE EXHAUST GASSES TO SPIN A IMPELLER...ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT THERE IS A COMPRESSOR SIDE....COMPRESSES AIR AND FORCES IT INTO THE INTAKE!!!

I PREFER A SUPERCHARGER!!!!TURBOs ARE MORE EFFICIENT BUT SUPERCHARGERS ARE EASIER TO TUNE AND ADD BOTTOM END TORQUE....WHERE A TURBO NEEDS SOME EXHAUST GAS FLOW TO SPOOL UP AND MAKE POWER THE BLOWER BOOSTS AT A LOWER RPM AND STAYS PRETTY LINEAR WITH ENGINE RPM!!!!

[Sierra Valley]

Do you get more initial power off the throttle with a super charger? I know the turbo lacks a bit since it has to build up the compressed air.

[MR.ROCKAPE]

Do you get more initial power off the throttle with a super charger? I know the turbo lacks a bit since it has to build up the compressed air.

YES A ROOTS BLOWER HAS HP AND TORQUE INCREASES ACROSS THE RPM RANGE.......

NOW THE CENTRIFIGAL BLOWER ON MY CIVIC IS MORE LIKE A TURBO AS IT DOESNT MAKE MUCH BOOST UNTIL YOU REALLY HAVE YOUR FOOT IN IT AND THE RPM IS RISING FAST....THEN IT GOES FROM MAKE A FEW PSI OF BOOST RIGHT TO MAX BOOST AT 10 PSI!!!!


MY NEXT LO-BUDGET BUGGY WILL HAVE A ROOTS BLOWER.....AND A BIGGER HONDA ENGINE!!!!:Big Grin:

[Sierra Valley]

My brother just picked up a Neon SRT with the turbo and its super fast, but its not as quick off the line I dont think as my moms pontiac with the super charged v6. Seems like the supercharger in my moms car is more snappy off the line than my brothers turbo.

Im not familiar with the Roots Blower, what is that?

[Hardcore-CashMoney]

looks like two screws turning together right?

[BIG BLUE]

Since you still don't get it :rolleyes:, yeah I could google or search on Pirate or Mud and get answers to any question i might have. But I'd rather get answers from people on this board. People I know in an interweb kind of way.

Dont worry I get it...but I just gave the typical Pirate answer and added a little bit. If you did go to pirate all you would have gotten was either "use the search button you fawkin newbie"or "get the fawk of the 4x4board with this rice burner question" :Big Grin:
And its never a good thing to claim to know me in on the interweb or in real life..just ask SV how I lowered his pool game!

Back on topic a supercharger is generally considered to be a better method of forced induction for most street and race vehicles, although the turbo will always have its place in a more specialized market. Superchargers generally provide a much broader powerband that most drivers are looking for with no "turbo lag".

And for those that dont know what LAG is...
"Lag
This is perhaps the biggest advantage that the supercharger enjoys over the tubo. Because a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gasses, the turbocharger's turbine must first spool up before it even begins to turn the compressor's impeller. This results in lag time which is the time needed for the turbine to reach its full throttle from an intermediate rotational speed state. During this lag time, the turbocharger is creating little to no boost, which means little to no power gains during this time. Smaller turbos spool up quicker, which eliminates some of this lag. Turbochargers thus utilize a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses boost pressure, and if it gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down..
A Supercharger, on the other hand, is connected directly to the crank, so there is no "lag". Superchargers are able to produce boost at a very low rpm, especially screw-type and roots type blowers."

[POOR BOY]

cant forget the old Detroit diesels that ran a blower and turbo. good times good times:gapteeth:

[Hardcore-CashMoney]

cant forget the old Detroit diesels that ran a blower and turbo. good times good times:gapteeth:

I was still swinging from nut to nut during those times....:eek:

[rusty_tlc]

I'm getting the idea that turbo chargers would be more use in applications like boats or planes where you are running at consistent rpm's, or for cruising on the highway.

I assume the supercharger is driven off the crank?

And what about intercoolers? I always hear people mention them in connection with either turbo or super chargers. What is an intercooler and what does it do?

[POOR BOY]

I was still swinging from nut to nut during those times....:eek:

hahahaha and im younger than you:eek:

[MR.ROCKAPE]

I'm getting the idea that turbo chargers would be more use in applications like boats or planes where you are running at consistent rpm's, or for cruising on the highway.

I assume the supercharger is driven off the crank?

And what about intercoolers? I always hear people mention them in connection with either turbo or super chargers. What is an intercooler and what does it do?

AN INTERCOOLER IS BASICALLY A RADIATOR THAT THE PRESSURIZED INTAKE AIR TRAVELS THROUGHT TO COOL IT OFF BEFORE IT REACHES THE ENGINE!!!!

THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES AIR TO AIR(USES AIR FLOW ACROSS IT TO CAUSE THE COOLING EFFECT,AND AIR TO WATER,IT USES WATER THAT IS CIRCULATED THROUGHT THE COOLER AND A SEPARATE HEAT EXCHANGER TO COOL THE WATER.....THEN THE AIR(BETTER SET-UP BUT ALOT MORE PLUMBING!!!!)

AND IT IS ALL DONE TO DROP THE INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE DOWN SO TO CREATE A DENSER INTAKE CHARGE AS WELL AS PROTECT THE ENGINE AGAINST PINGING,PRE-IGNITION AND MAKE MORE POWER!!!!

TURBOs HAVE THEIR PLACE IN GOING FAST,BUT BOTTOM END TORQUE ISNT THEIR THING......AT IDLE OR JUST OFF,NO REAL EXHAUST FLOW=NO REAL TURBO BOOST!!!

THATS WHY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ONE CLOWN I KNOW EVEN BOTHERED PUTTING ONE ON A JEEP!!!I6 SWAP......OR BETTER YET SELL THE WEAK 4 BANGER AND BUY A JEEP WITH A 6!!!

[POOR BOY]

I'm getting the idea that turbo chargers would be more use in applications like boats or planes where you are running at consistent rpm's, or for cruising on the highway.

I assume the supercharger is driven off the crank?

And what about intercoolers? I always hear people mention them in connection with either turbo or super chargers. What is an intercooler and what does it do?

intercooler is usually used with turbos, intercoolers work just like the radiator in your car, as the air goes threw it the cooler cools the air makes it more dense to give you more power

[POOR BOY]

AN INTERCOOLER IS BASICALLY A RADIATOR THAT THE PRESSURIZED INTAKE AIR TRAVELS THROUGHT TO COOL IT OFF BEFORE IT REACHES THE ENGINE!!!!

THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES AIR TO AIR(USES AIR FLOW ACROSS IT TO CAUSE THE COOLING EFFECT,AND AIR TO WATER,IT USES WATER THAT IS CIRCULATED THROUGHT THE COOLER AND A SEPARATE HEAT EXCHANGER TO COOL THE WATER.....THEN THE AIR(BETTER SET-UP BUT ALOT MORE PLUMBING!!!!)

AND IT IS ALL DONE TO DROP THE INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE DOWN SO TO CREATE A DENSER INTAKE CHARGE AS WELL AS PROTECT THE ENGINE AGAINST PINGING,PRE-IGNITION AND MAKE MORE POWER!!!!

TURBOs HAVE THEIR PLACE IN GOING FAST,BUT BOTTOM END TORQUE ISNT THEIR THING......AT IDLE OR JUST OFF,NO REAL EXHAUST FLOW=NO REAL TURBO BOOST!!!

THATS WHY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ONE CLOWN I KNOW EVEN BOTHERED PUTTING ONE ON A JEEP!!!I6 SWAP......OR BETTER YET SELL THE WEAK 4 BANGER AND BUY A JEEP WITH A 6!!!

beat me to it

[rusty_tlc]

AN INTERCOOLER IS BASICALLY A RADIATOR THAT THE PRESSURIZED INTAKE AIR TRAVELS THROUGHT TO COOL IT OFF BEFORE IT REACHES THE ENGINE!!!!

THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES AIR TO AIR(USES AIR FLOW ACROSS IT TO CAUSE THE COOLING EFFECT,AND AIR TO WATER,IT USES WATER THAT IS CIRCULATED THROUGHT THE COOLER AND A SEPARATE HEAT EXCHANGER TO COOL THE WATER.....THEN THE AIR(BETTER SET-UP BUT ALOT MORE PLUMBING!!!!)

AND IT IS ALL DONE TO DROP THE INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE DOWN SO TO CREATE A DENSER INTAKE CHARGE AS WELL AS PROTECT THE ENGINE AGAINST PINGING,PRE-IGNITION AND MAKE MORE POWER!!!!

TURBOs HAVE THEIR PLACE IN GOING FAST,BUT BOTTOM END TORQUE ISNT THEIR THING......AT IDLE OR JUST OFF,NO REAL EXHAUST FLOW=NO REAL TURBO BOOST!!!

THATS WHY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ONE CLOWN I KNOW EVEN BOTHERED PUTTING ONE ON A JEEP!!!I6 SWAP......OR BETTER YET SELL THE WEAK 4 BANGER AND BUY A JEEP WITH A 6!!!
The first law of thermodynamics.

[trupster415]

here is a pic of my air to air cooler. intercoolers are water cooled

[trupster415]

here is a car with a big turbo and lots of turbo lag. but has tons of power under boost.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Nx0Rklm_g